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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    Weve not been able to socialise in groups of more than 6 at all, the difference now is they can dish out fines for anyone in bigger groups.

    For anyone who was following the rules it doesnt make any difference.
    It went up to 30 in July.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9600716.html


    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    One of my colleagues has just rocked up to the office with a temperature and a cough. The boss just lolled him back out the door. What sort of idiot do you have to be?
    That should be a stackable offence. Even pre-Covid turning up with Flu symptoms was a cunts trick.

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    I'm amazed The Netherlands haven't been shafted far more than they have. There's barely any real restrictions and what ones were in place (mask-wearing in certain crowded environments like open markets) seem to have been fucked off. There was a street party on my block the other night with steel drums

    I feel like they've been lucky as the countries around them have buffered things a fair bit and also the Dutch tend to be pretty healthy and outdoors-y. Very little mass transit, most people cycling. Numbers are creeping up though and R is over 1 https://coronadashboard.government.nl

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    School just called. Confirmed Covid case amongst one of the parents. This shit isn't going to work. Lolol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    School just called. Confirmed Covid case amongst one of the parents. This shit isn't going to work. Lolol.
    What happens now? Do the kids all have to go home?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    What happens now? Do the kids all have to go home?
    Yeah, Mrs is on her way to get her. No idea if they close for a week or 2 now though. I imagine their kid gets tested and it's dependent on that result as to whether the rest can go back? I really have no idea.

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    Teacher said it's the parent of one of the main kids mine plays with.

    She's living in the shed for 2 weeks.

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    My indoor soccer league started last night. I decided to play.

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    What's going on with death numbers in France/Spain?



    Spain had about 10k new cases every day between the 13th and 20th of March, peaked at about 1000 daily deaths about two and a half weeks later.

    Similar peak in case numbers about three weeks ago, Why's ~nobody (400 odd deaths last week) dying of it?

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    Deaths are less per case due to a combination of:

    It's already killed off the seriously low hanging fruit.
    We're testing a hell of a lot more people now.
    I haven't seen the demographics on positive tests but I'd be surprised if it isn't more weighted towards the lower risk groups now (the young and Taz, for example).
    The lag between cases rising and it actually killing people, which we know is about 3 weeks to a month.

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    Better treatment.
    Weaker virus.
    Younger people getting it rather than oldies.
    It's already taken the 'low hanging fruit'
    The actual number if cases during the first peak were far higher than estimated.

    Take your pick.

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    Let's just crack on, then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Yeah, Mrs is on her way to get her. No idea if they close for a week or 2 now though. I imagine their kid gets tested and it's dependent on that result as to whether the rest can go back? I really have no idea.
    The whole school is shutting because of one parent?

    One of my mates’ student tested positive and the folk in the class are self isolating, along with him, until Friday but the school is still open

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    Where are the charts that also show % of tests that are positive? That's the first thing we should be doing as a basis of comparison back to Spring. Anything else is just bad Numberwang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Where are the charts that also show % of tests that are positive? That's the first thing we should be doing as a basis of comparison back to Spring. Anything else is just bad Numberwang.
    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/t...&region=Europe
    Last edited by Pepe; 14-09-2020 at 12:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Where are the charts that also show % of tests that are positive? That's the first thing we should be doing as a basis of comparison back to Spring. Anything else is just bad Numberwang.
    You can work out some similar stuff from this link but not exactly what you're looking for:

    https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    The whole school is shutting because of one parent?

    One of my mates’ student tested positive and the folk in the class are self isolating, along with him, until Friday but the school is still open
    Just her 'bubble'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Where are the charts that also show % of tests that are positive? That's the first thing we should be doing as a basis of comparison back to Spring. Anything else is just bad Numberwang.
    Also:

    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/p...ountry=FRA~ESP

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    This stuff is a lot better than I what I found.

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    Still a long way behind France and Spain.

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    Our world in data is pretty great.

    The one for Mexico.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    Better treatment.
    Weaker virus.
    Younger people getting it rather than oldies.
    It's already taken the 'low hanging fruit'
    The actual number if cases during the first peak were far higher than estimated.

    Take your pick.
    Numbers being fudged to get the economy back up and running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    Numbers being fudged to get the economy back up and running.
    If they were doing that they'd under report the number of cases, Shirley?

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    Seems France's data only goes back to mid-May, but look at Spain, still well below where they were even on April 20th (which looks as though it was a falling % from earlier too).

    The public just don't understand numbers, let alone the context around them. One could argue it's not useful for the government to get them to as they might take it less seriously, but the opinions that are formed as a result really aren't based on reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    If they were doing that they'd under report the number of cases, Shirley?
    There's a lot of benefit to social restrictions.

    It's still out there but it's not bad enough to stop you going to work.

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    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/p...t&country=~GBR

    1.5% or lower since June 6th for the UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    There's a lot of benefit to social restrictions.

    It's still out there but it's not bad enough to stop you going to work.
    It's bad enough to keep me working form home. That's the main thing.

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    Circa 1 in 100 people that have cause to get a test (presumably that's still from showing symptoms) testing positive, is a staggeringly small problem.

    Not saying it won't get worse, so I'm absolutely fine with the current restrictions, but the sky is not falling.

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    We've had loads of this. It's just the pupils either in the class or even less than that the ones they sit beside. It's an absolute farce but yes the kids and the parents have to self-isolate, even if they get a test and test negative. LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Circa 1 in 100 people that have cause to get a test (presumably that's still from showing symptoms) testing positive, is a staggeringly small problem.

    Not saying it won't get worse, so I'm absolutely fine with the current restrictions, but the sky is not falling.
    This sums up the situation perfectly.

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    People dying less is good obviously but that "long covid" shit still sounds extremely unpleasant.

    Still feeling fatigued all the time six months later? No thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    People dying less is good obviously but that "long covid" shit still sounds extremely unpleasant.

    Still feeling fatigued all the time six months later? No thanks.
    Try having kids. I've done 4 and half years of it now.

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    A colleague of mine has the extended fatigue thing. She's on her 3rd kid and says it's truly awful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    People dying less is good obviously but that "long covid" shit still sounds extremely unpleasant.

    Still feeling fatigued all the time six months later? No thanks.
    Sounds like depression.

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    Except there's physical proof of it. 15% of sufferers have hearts look like they've been ravaged by heart disease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    Sounds like depression.
    I was going to make the same joke.

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    I thought the “no mixing more than two households” might have scuppered my Sunday pub plans but apparently the “no more than six people” takes precedent, so six people from six houses is allowed.
    I'm a twit

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Except there's physical proof of it. 15% of sufferers have hearts look like they've been ravaged by heart disease.
    Had the same with pneumonia (fatigue not heart disease).

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    You're Scotch, the heart disease is a given.

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    My mate manages a pub, on saturday a guy was in there drinking for hours. Sunday morning he texts saying he has had a positive test for covid. My mate rings the health authority who say the pub can stay open only people sat within 2 metres of the guy for more than 15 minutes need to self isolate. It then transpires the positive test guy was sent someone else's result and he was negative after all.

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    Probably Spikey’s.
    I'm a twit

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    I'm fine now. Turned up Saturday after I was already on the mend. Didn't even bother doing it.

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    Jesus wept.

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    You could hawk it in Rochdale or Bolton now for 1,000 groats or whatever the currency is in those parts.

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    I'm as happy to admit as the next man that, generally speaking, Tim Martin is a wanker. But he's not exactly wrong here, is he? So 66 employees have come down with Covid since he reopened. Presumably none of those 66 are dead, otherwise we would hear all about it.

    The article itself states that he employs 41,000 people. So roughly 0.16% of his workforce has contracted the virus in the couple of months since the pubs have reopened. In what world does that make going to Wetherspoons "dangerous"? At least from a Covid point of view. The odds of getting glassed by one of the regulars in your average 'Spoons is a different, far more dangerous proposition, the odds of which I would not like to calculate.

    What shall we do? Shut the pubs again as the furlough winds down, and make those 41,0000 people redundant? If that a preferable course of action? It's a contagious virus, some people are going to get it. This constant bitching and moaning about inconsequential, drummed up figures is doing my fucking head in.

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    Another example of the number bait that people just don't understand, that.

    In absolutely no context, 66 people contracting a virus sounds like quite a lot. Add in the context of that being across an entire national pub chain and, as you say, it's utterly fuck all.

    I do wonder if there are a load of people who were desperate to see opening pubs backfire spectacularly, either because they hate the type that frequent them and/or thought it would be a disaster and now can't cope with it not being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Another example of the number bait that people just don't understand, that.

    In absolutely no context, 66 people contracting a virus sounds like quite a lot. Add in the context of that being across an entire national pub chain and, as you say, it's utterly fuck all.

    I do wonder if there are a load of people who were desperate to see opening pubs backfire spectacularly, either because they hate the type that frequent them and/or thought it would be a disaster and now can't cope with it not being.
    Nail on the head here Yev, I think.

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    We've a large cohort that are dying for us to have the culture of some wine, some tapas, some wine, hearty laughter, and lots of Instagram instead of our proper pub one. So there are piles loving them being closed and are mad for them to remain that way.

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    France still piling in cases but still in single figure deaths.

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    Also 405 house parties DISRUPTED in Scotland over the weekend. Nation of grassing freaks.

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