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    It's a bit unreasonable of you to expect them to have thought about this beyond the "world class" soundbite, Yev.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Is it me or does this fundamentally miss the point of a good test and trace system:



    Speedy results is one thing, but surely that should be part of a wider plan of how you use those results to understand properly how it spreads and therefore mitigate against that spread.

    I may only be Yevrah, but they could do worse than giving me a job on this ship really.
    It's a classic case of measuring output and not outcomes

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    It's why I also questioned the army handing out tests in Birmingham. If there's no wider plan then there's little point.

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    They have outbreak information at their disposal as well. The weekly flu / respiratory reports from PHE (or whatever they're called now) detail origins of outbreaks. It's like they've gone beyond track and trace and now would prefer to see one number go so high as to diminish all others by comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Has anyone done forensic analysis of his post-match interview speaking lexicon to check? If not then Dom, if you're reading this, get on it, you could get a week's Twitter whines out of that angle.
    The language has suddenly become overly-dramatic and preachy, which makes me picture a middle class white woman (or crack team of middle class white women) with self-diagnosed mental health issues despatched by the Joseph Rowntree Foundation.

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    There are always going to be people who argue that those who have children should look after them and those that argue society has a duty of care for children who aren't provided for, regardless of the reason. I think it would be wise to consider, regardless of political stripe, that leaving kids to fend for themselves if their parents are feckless is likely to have negative consequences for society in general further down the line. It is probably easy to quantify the costs to other services as a knock on effect which might be easier for the government to swallow.

    In the grand scheme of things though when we have been spunking vast fortunes on absolute bollocks recently it should have been an easy win for them, but I agree with Jimmy they're all too insulated with their own bullshit.

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    Florida deaths since OPENING THE CLUBS are down.

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    Unusual for Florida.

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    Don't fucking just post that without a good read to back it up and lead me to desperately scowering the web for evidence ffs.

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    Interesting thread.

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    Yeah... that doesn't look good at all. Potentially 6 weeks from ~600 deaths per day. Sheeeeeit.
    Last edited by Spikey M; 23-10-2020 at 11:39 AM.

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    In case anyone else doesn't fancy having to consume their info through eye-bleeding twitter threads, the tl;dr of it is set out below:

    Intersectional feminist says we need a lockdown and better track and trace to prevent deaths.

    Interspersed with some incorrect assumptions but I covered that with intersectional feminist hopefully.

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    She makes good points on the lack of a strategy beyond periodic 'hide & seek'.

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    But she's clueless if she thinks a two week lockdown ("circuit breaker" can fuck off) will buy the time to sort all that shit out.

    At this stage our entire long term strategy is based around how quickly lab boffins can complete their outstanding efforts.

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    Someone made the fair point on twitter than surely Level 0 is back to pre-Covid normality?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Yeah... that doesn't look good at all. Potentially 6 weeks from ~600 deaths per day. Sheeeeeit.
    How can we understand these figures when they are still counting people who died from other shit but tested positive as a death?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    How can we understand these figures when they are still counting people who died from other shit but tested positive as a death?
    This conversation was retarded the first time, round 4 is a hard pass.

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    I can't remember whether I've already posted this and I'm on my phone so cba to check, but the occupational health lady who gave me my flu jab the other day said that they are being geared up behind the scenes to start a vaccination campaign from January.

    How much you can read into that regarding how confident they are a vaccine will actually be available by then I don't really know.

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    /itk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    This conversation was retarded the first time, round 4 is a hard pass.
    Agreed, so we're settled on hardly any deaths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    I can't remember whether I've already posted this and I'm on my phone so cba to check, but the occupational health lady who gave me my flu jab the other day said that they are being geared up behind the scenes to start a vaccination campaign from January.

    How much you can read into that regarding how confident they are a vaccine will actually be available by then I don't really know.
    If it ain't from Reddit we don't want to know LAD.

    Positive news coming out about the vaccine today (yesterday?) though. Looks like it works well. Shame only 30% of us will actually be willing to get it really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    I can't remember whether I've already posted this and I'm on my phone so cba to check, but the occupational health lady who gave me my flu jab the other day said that they are being geared up behind the scenes to start a vaccination campaign from January.

    How much you can read into that regarding how confident they are a vaccine will actually be available by then I don't really know.
    My source has said that it's later in the year and he's never wrong.

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    Do we know the model of the plane that will carry the vaccine?

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    Here we go!

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    He predicted the Swine Flu pandemic and penicillin.

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    It's coming home.

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    Open the clubs.

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-54652226

    "We may actually have to ration surgery and it may be that you end up with a broken arm or a broken leg that we do not have the time or space to operate on, and it will heal with a deformity and potential disability."

    Cool, sounds good.

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    How will you tell any difference?

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    That makes no sense, can't I just go 'I don't give a shit about COVID' sign a waiver and have them put my leg back together?

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    You're not protecting the NHS then are you.

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    This is hilarious.

    I'm sorry but if you've got corona and you're in hospital you're a fucking melt. You should only be in hospital if you're at the ventilation stage. Same with the flu. Nation of cowards.

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    Magic, listen we all want the clubs open but I don't even know what you're spouting recently. You can't be letting the seethe overpower you.

    Extra hour in the clubs tomorrow night (with the clocks going back at 2am) if we manage to have an early win

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    This is hilarious.

    I'm sorry but if you've got corona and you're in hospital you're a fucking melt. You should only be in hospital if you're at the ventilation stage. Same with the flu. Nation of cowards.
    Have you suffered some sort of brain damage?

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    Ah yes, the famously non-essential and frivolous item that is the winter blanket.

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    Fuck me.

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    That is fucked up.

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    There are a few people justifying it on the grounds that it prevents the closed 'non-essential' shops losing business, because obviously they live in 1996.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    Have you suffered some sort of brain damage?
    You'll see the perfectly timed Lewbear post shows it is not I with the brain damage.

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    Should those people with the polythene really be that close together?

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    Is there some sort of 'official' take on why this is being done?

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    Small, local business amazon.com surely will feel the benefit of that decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    There are a few people justifying it on the grounds that it prevents the closed 'non-essential' shops losing business, because obviously they live in 1996.
    lol this is the actual official reason for it. I thought it was just idiots putting a shine on the government being stupid.

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    That's literally batshit crazy.

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    They're only losing business because you've forced them to close, you ridiculous people. Now no one can have pillows.

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    Not content with our three tier system, I see the Scots have gone for 5 tiers.

    I have a feeling we need 7 tiers to crack this, so I am disappoint.

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    Deadly Dom's 10 commandments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Not content with our three tier system, I see the Scots have gone for 5 tiers.

    I have a feeling we need 7 tiers to crack this, so I am disappoint.
    It's 5 tiers and of course, applying some sterling logic, the 5 tiers are as follows:

    Tier 1: LEVEL 0
    Tier 2: LEVEL 1
    Tier 3: LEVEL 2
    Tier 4: LEVEL 3
    Tier 5: LEVEL 4


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