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    I haven't clicked, I'm going... greengrocer.

    edit: Nearly got it.

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    Tarzo Marks. Deary me.

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    While we're digging up late 90s backmarkers: that Williams looks like it was designed purely to be driven by Ricardo Rosset.

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    90s backmarkers would probably be quicker. When I looked up Marques I saw he had three top 10 finishes in a Minardi which outstrips Williams over a similar period.

    In other news I finally got round to watching some Drive to Survive, even in the first two episodes the running theme seems to be lolling at Grosjean which I highly approve of.

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    Oval racing and helicopters, not even once.

    https://streamable.com/xgsxt

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    I don't understand how, in the pre-safety era, everyone in oval races didn't just die within three or four races. Unless they did. I'll have to do some research.

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    28 according to Wiki, with no more than 7 in a single decade. And they weren't slow either, average speeds were up in the 180's by 1970.

    My guess is stock cars of that era were inherently safer than an open wheel/cockpit prototype which was likely knocked up in a shed using twigs and papier mache rather than being hollowed from a block of Detroit steel.

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    Yeah, those stock cars weigh a ton. Like cruising on a Lincoln Continental. I bet that most deaths were due to no Hans device. Many more ways to die in open wheelers.

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    You can buy your own, by the way:


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    Then again, there is also this:

    https://www.tour-de-force.co.uk/tdf-1

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    Donned it, to be fair.


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    Nice, I normally skip ahead until I can see cars moving, he clearly quite enjoyed saying 'Great American Race'.

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    I've figured out who he reminds me of. Giant mitts.


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    ...He's got famously small hands. Half the republican primary was about how he had tiny hands and a small dick.

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    He displays them so prominently, though. Like he's honking a pair in every speech.

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    500 was good but man I thought Ryan Newman died for a solid hour. Was furiously refreshing twitter for info, I just hope he's not Schumacher'd or worse.

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    I don't approve of twitter's 'Dale saved him' sentiment. Dale hated the HANS device.

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    He sure did, but, it was mandated after Dale, so on some level I get it but...

    You also have to take into account almost 90% of NASCAR fans are sentimental spiritual types who likely think Trump was sent to save America by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ Himself, so.

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    I don't think the hans would have saved him from the worst part of the crash, the uprights/roll cage around the window did that.

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    The main headline from testing is that Giovinazzi now has a ponytail.

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    They just posted Ryan Newman walking out of hospital with his daughters. Unbelievable.

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    Seen someone tweet about him earlier (Ross Tucker I think) but I’ve no idea who he is.

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    Oh sure sorry we were talking a little about him a couple posts back.



    I'd start around :30 to get a full idea. This is the very last lap of the race.

    I thought for sure he'd be dead or at least severely, severely injured. This man is walking out of the hospital 2 days later.

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    Shit yeah you’d be lucky to still be intact at all after that.

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    Seems Mercedes have brought some invention to their car this time around.

    The driver can pull back on the steering wheel and by the looks of it, it straightens up the wheels.

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    Watching the video in sector 3 I'm pretty confident that LH will be equaling 'Michael' by the end of the year.

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    I feel a Direttiva Tecnica may be on the horizon.

    I'm not sure if that system would help with straight line speed (and allow you to run higher drag) or just be easier on the tyres. Either way the other teams are going to be spitting feathers if it's on the grid in Melbourne.

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    I'm no F1 engineer but if it narrows the car up and gives them less drag like I think it does. Combine that with being in a toe, they may have the answer to last seasons only problem, which was getting past the faster engine in the red car.

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    I think it just takes the toe/camber off the wheels, which should be easier on the tyres. How much of an aerodynamic difference it makes I have no idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco View Post
    I'm not sure if that system would help with straight line speed (and allow you to run higher drag) or just be easier on the tyres.
    If it allows to have zero toe on the straights and some toe out on the corners, which is what it seems to do, then it will help with both.

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    I would have thought it would make it easier for the driver to control tyre temps, as it would be more what you see is what you get from the steering input? Especially in Q3.

    If it has any impact on exit speeds then you can basically kiss them goodbye into the distance.

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    Probably just a trolling device.

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    The new Mercedes wheel is banned from 2021 but they're good to use it this year. I expect much seethe if it gives them anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco View Post
    Direttiva Tecnica
    Google wasn't helpful, what's this? Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    The new Mercedes wheel is banned from 2021 but they're good to use it this year. I expect much seethe if it gives them anything.
    That seems... backwards.

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    Aren't they teasing leaving the sport? It's probably not wanting to upset them.

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    I mean it could be a bit like reverse engineering the rules though. "Oh, so from 2021 we can't do... this, this, and this? Why didn't we ever think to do that before?"

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    There is a regulation change coming for '21. I believe that specifically makes something akin to what they've done illegal.

    For now I see it in a grey area. I don't think it will stay on the car for long without a big fight(from the red team especially) if it gives any kind of significant advantage.

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    So is this gonna be like the year Jenson Button won the title where Brawn/Mercedes just fuck everyone off for the first 8 weeks of the calendar because of their clever diffuser or w/e it was

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    The regs were changing anyway and the wording went from something like 'steering action must be via the wheel and fully in control of the driver' to something like '...via the rotational action of the wheel'

    If the system gains them enough I would expect them to try and find a way to do the same thing within the context of the new wording.

    Oh, and despite what has been reported Merc aren't going anywhere and never were. Their F1 operation is almost zero cost and is of massive value over and above any outlay.

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    F1 off season is always the same. The only stories anyone will click on are *famous driver planning move* or *famous team threatens to leave sport*. So they just write those for the sake of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruhnaldo View Post
    Google wasn't helpful, what's this? Sorry.
    You needed Google Translate It's Italian for Technical Directive, I was inferring that the other teams (Ferrari mainly) would be complaining to the FIA until they issued a TD banning the new steering system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    F1 off season is always the same. The only stories anyone will click on are *famous driver planning move* or *famous team threatens to leave sport*. So they just write those for the sake of it.
    It ended with someone ringing up their Chief Exec and getting lolled off the phone. Same with Hamilton and his contract, they asked him about all the rumours and talks only to find out they hadn't even started because he'd been on holiday. Off season shenanigans are yet to top the year loads of idiots bet on Renault to win the title after they topped a single days testing.

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    Lol oh my bad thanks bub.

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    So the steering banned from 2021. I would love them to inverse rulings like that. It's a very 'well, if we can't have it, no-one can.' I want another double/blown diffuser land rush.

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    Started watching the new Netflix season. I know everyone asked for more Gunther cursing, but the first two episodes are just that, and they are quite boring tbh. Hope if picks up soon.

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    I watched it yesterday and there are plenty of episodes with a different focus, they stay away from Haas after the first couple.

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    Watched the whole thing in two massive binge sessions. Really good stuff. Loved the Sainz 3rd place and Hulkenberg blowing the podium in Germany episodes.

    They love showing that clip of Grosjean binning it into the wall warming up his tyres. I swear the production team think he’s a prick or something.

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    All 20 drivers are probably pricks. Magnussen has always struck me as a massive cunt. Raikkonen is a miserable so and so. Alonso used to be an absolute weapon.

    Sainz and Norris seem nice. I'll get onto watching this in midweek, enjoyed the first series even though it wasn't really (at all) aimed at me.

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