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Thread: F1 2020 - Corona Virus Edition

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    Imola, first time back since 2006. These last two weekends have been fantastic - a far cry from the carbon-copy tracks we seem to get with no character whatsoever.

    George Russell is absolutely rapid too, what a lap in that Williams.

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    Watching these morons trying to deal with 'track limits' (formerly known as 'where the track goes') at these properly designed circuits has been great. Piratella is a beauty of a corner and these guys just don't want to face up to the talent-separating challenge that it is, they're desperate to ping it on the exit like it's a flat corner at Abu Dhabi or something.

    The chicane up the hill seems to be flummoxing them as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco View Post
    I believe it's on demand but I downloaded it so I'm not sure.
    Just caught one about Ron Dennis on the Sky F1 channel.

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    Race starting in three, for anyone nearly caught out like I was with the fucking random start times they seem to use these days.

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    Just caught it.

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    Lets see if the Hamilton pattern continues, if this is anything like Nurburgring or Portimao then he'll sit 2-3 secs back until the pit window approaches then ups the pace and makes the pass.

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    Think it will be tougher here, he might have to try a funky strategy or something.

    I would love to see him and Verstappen in the same (or similar) cars, would be one for the ages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Race starting in three, for anyone nearly caught out like I was with the fucking random start times they seem to use these days.
    Yeah, cheers.

    This race is like some sort of secret shame. Only one practice session and trying to sneak the race in to finish before most people would normally think about tuning in for the start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco View Post
    Lets see if the Hamilton pattern continues, if this is anything like Nurburgring or Portimao then he'll sit 2-3 secs back until the pit window approaches then ups the pace and makes the pass.
    You also need the moan. "These tyres are dead, Bono!" 10 laps later on the same tyres, sets a fastest lap.

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    It might have to be the overcut rather than passing on track then.

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    This extension from Hamilton will decide if he can challenge the top 2. That he instantly pumped in a fastest lap once free, suggests he was managing behind Max.

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    Max is going to get Bottas here.

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    Fucking lol if he gets both of them like this.

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    If he takes Bottas likes this, Bottas with seethe himself to sleep tonight.

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    lol. Congrats Lewis, 93.

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    He should do the euromillions tonight after that.

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    That's amazing.

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    All going off here.

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    Wtf is going on?

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    Max just looked like the tyre went bang.

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    It was a proper Mansell-esque explosion, haven't seen one of those for ages. Then George binning it under the safety car in a way I am not sure I have ever seen happen.

    Fair play to Ferrari for somehow having stuck Vettel in P14 out of 15 here with that comedy pit stop.

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    I think a bump unsettled him as he was trying to floor it.

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    Nicely done “George”

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    Dr. Marko will be readying the firing squad.

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    Was Perez third before Racing Point decided to pit him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Arne View Post
    Was Perez third before Racing Point decided to pit him?
    If memory serves they pitted him from 4th, just before Maxs' tyre went bang.

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    Kvyat's P4 there was the drive of the day. Shame he'll have to do it in Ukrainian tractor racing or something next year.

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    I don't like to think this way, but that VSC was a complete joke. How long did they give it after Ocon retired before they activated it, 1 minute? 90 seconds? And it just happened to be when Lewis was infront of the pit entry? Yeah, okay. Completely fucking ruined what was potentially an interesting final half of the race.

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    These days they just seem to chuck down at least a VSC whenever anyone goes off.

    Hamilton was pissing it either way but that just made it easier for him.

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    As soon as you saw the car smoking at the side of the track it was inevitable, he had the gap anyway though.

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    I watched Australia '97 back the other night (brilliant race helped by the fact that I had forgotten everything that happens in it), people were binning it left right and centre and there was never even a hint of a safety car.

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    Did he have the gap, though? He was around 27 seconds ahead of Bottas and that's about the pit lane time, wasn't it?

    Either way they took an interesting finish and turned into a foregone conclusion.

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    Even if he had come out behind him (which would have needed a botched pit stop), he would have sailed past due to Bottas's debris damage. After the final safety car he strolled away into the distance as well. He's just ridiculously better than every driver bar Max and has a brilliant car, it's almost impossible to beat him unless he commits errors or has quite a large amount of bad luck.

    Speaking of strolling, Lance is now five races without a point, most of it self-inflicted (bar missing a race with covid), with his team mate picking up 48 points in that time. Anyone else would be under incredible pressure.
    Last edited by Jimmy Floyd; 01-11-2020 at 02:17 PM.

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    In his defence, we don't know how he's feeling since the Covid. Perez caught his earlier in the year so he's had more time to recover.

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    He spent the entire weekend in Portugal driving into the side of cars he knew full well were there, he just isn't very good. And if covid is affecting him to that extent he shouldn't be in the car.

    Shockers today for Albon and Russell, the former must now be done and Formula E obscurity beckons for another promising young driver. Russell is now on three blown points opportunities by my count, this one almost Grosjean-esque.

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    Max is the one who murders them all. There was a good Mark Hughes article the other day which demonstrated that if you had two Albons in the Red Bull it would be about 4th or 5th in the constructors' championship. They were never stronger than when they had good old @aussiegrit in the second car (even if he was trying for it to be the first car, bless him).

    However, I saw another argument put forward that when you have Max in the first car, you actually want someone shit in the second car as they are able to actually notice the imperfections and issues that Max just drives around.

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    I desperately wanted Albon to perform today. I think it's the end though. Perez to Red Bull and Tsunoda in the Aplha, I reckon.

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    As Gasly has demonstrated this season the second Red Bull seat is something of a poisoned chalice and while I don't think Albons talent is lacking it's hard to see how you come back from results like this.

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    It's not necessarily his pure pace (which is OK, I think), it's the fact that he keeps making errors and generally looking like a mess. There are some drivers who maximise results, he tends to minimise them.

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    Him crying about people racing hard should have had him immediately demoted.

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    Marko has been pretty ruthless with Kvyat and Gasly before him, so it is odd to see him not lining up the firing squad already. Perhaps they don't have someone that can step into the car right away.

    It still sounds like it's between him and "Checo" for next year too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Him crying about people racing hard should have had him immediately demoted.
    Yeah fuck that guy for having low confidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    Marko has been pretty ruthless with Kvyat and Gasly before him, so it is odd to see him not lining up the firing squad already. Perhaps they don't have someone that can step into the car right away.

    It still sounds like it's between him and "Checo" for next year too.
    Marko's policy was on the basis there would always be a new kid to keep the pressure on. There isn't. He's chewed through them.

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    F1 is a brutal game, there are maybe 15 merit seats in the whole sport. There are drivers like Stoffel Vandoorne and Jean-Eric Vergne, and Hulkenberg for that matter, who are better than half the melts on the grid but if if you don't grab your chances, you're gone. They all know that.

    This is why Russell was doing a full blub on the sidelines after binning it earlier, because he knows that he'll get one chance like that a season if he's lucky to make a statement.

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    I remember being surprised to find out that Helmut Marko was a real person and not one of those usual style nicknames Jimmy had given Horner.

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    I only heard him speak for the first time on a documentary about Jochen Rindt. I'd think he was an unassuming old man if it wasn't for the stories Adrian Newey told about him slagging Webber off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    Just caught one about Ron Dennis on the Sky F1 channel.
    I've seen this one now (and the rest of the series), Dennis seems like he would be a fucking nightmare to live with. Decent series on the whole, some interesting bits and pieces that I've never seen before like some of the Alan Jones and Jack Brabham interviews and some of the old Williams footage. A bit too many re-treads or straight up repeats of entire sections though, I think we heard about Lauda's accident and return at least twice and while the emphasis on the historical side was ideal for me I thought there could have been another episode or so on the modern era.

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    I'm not sure there's a lot to say about the hybrid era really, at least not the on-track stuff, other than the story of how Ferrari bungled everything year after year. I guess the Liberty stuff and Netflix could be interesting but then you're getting into meta territory.

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    It's slim, yep. You do have Rosberg vs Hamilton, the emergence of Vestappen but not a lot else. Maybe Alonso's descent into proper madness or Haas being a new team that actually stuck around.

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    They did a little bit on Hamilton but only as a tack on to Ron's story. I suppose they may also not want to step on DTS toes.

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