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They need a broad church approach though. If they double down on thinking their policies are good, they will get an even bigger moshing next time. They were quite fortunate to get as many seats as they did, loads of tiny majorities to defend next time.
That's exactly why they've done it.Originally Posted by niko_cee
Except that would go completely against all the stated reasons in polling. Policy was something like 12% of the swing according to polls.
What, with 'not voting for Corbyn' appearing top?
'I really, really want all of the things in the Labour manifesto; but Jeremy Corbyn looks like a tramp, so I'll shoot myself in the face and vote for the exact opposite.'
Yep.
They hated him and his politics. Brexit didn't help, but if Labour are thinking about doubling down on that being the reason we could have a Tory government for the rest of my life.
Yep, it's idiotic.
Some of the Labour policies have popular support. Train nationalisation, more public spending, oil and gas windfall tax.
But then they start throwing stuff like free broadband, workers on company boards, secondary picketing and it all makes them look like mentalists. Plus it also confuses people so they don't know what freebie is being offered that week.
You win from the centre ground and then pull the country in the direction you want, if they go for RLB or Lewis for next leader then you can write off Labour for the next two elections at least.
They also messaged it like a load of bollocks, first putting their manifesto out and then chucking more shit on top of that on a day by day basis. I saw a great line somewhere last week which summed it all up perfectly: 'People want a hand up, not a handout.'
I also saw a leak which suggested Seumas Milne thought that the polls could be ignored because Labour had 'defeated' polling last time. Love ya Seumas.
Ignoring the fact that last time, Corbyn was a relative unknown going against the most idiotic and robotic campaign in Tory history since Howard.
The entire upper echelon needs to be sacked off and sent to the Gulag. Really makes me wish for another Blair.
FREE BROADBAND was a load of shit straight from the off. As is anything that parties offer with a 10 year delivery time.
Yeah. There's just no confidence to it any more. No strength in leadership, no clear vision. And we won't produce another decent young politician because they're all on twitter arguing with Phonics.
Hold the back page. It's all sorted now.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50888060
Thank fuck for that.
This is all setup for a triumphant Blair return.
That's a great picture.
Blair will never return.
The great tragedy for Corbz is that it was all there for him in 2016 and he bottled it.
What are you talking about Yev?
I should really force education on myself with politics. Given my age, but I have very little interest. I still want to practice wrestling moves and eat cereal straight out the box with no milk.
A variety pack box of Frosties eaten like crisps is a joyous thing.
Not only do I really hope Nigel Farage gets his knighthood, but I would love it - love it - if it subsequently emerged that he had been promised it before the election.
Why do you think that's a good thing?
Presumably for the reaction it would generate.
Having a Knight of the Realm as a hype man would probably go down well with Trump supporters.
Knighthoods seem to be reserved for arseholes these days, so he'll fit right in.
These days?
Put the DWP on the blockchain.
Quoting Yudkowsky.
Lol.Unusual economists
We are looking to hire some recent graduates in economics. You should a) have an outstanding record at a great university
Ready the Mert signal.
I e-mailed him once and got a reply, so I feel like I would have the inside track.
Come to think of it it concerned a book I never ended up writing (mostly not my fault), so he probably has me down as a lazy whopper.
Much like Vince Russo. Great minds truly do think alike.
Give it a shot as a 'wild card.' I would open with your milk bit.
Dominic mate,
I am the six-time Best Poster on the Third Half dot co dot UK. I'm not working Friday afternoons.
Thank you.
I reckon Deadly Dom could teach us all a bit about abusing the Flexi system.
With all due respect to him I don't think he could.
I've spent all evening lolling at this.G. Super-talented weirdos
People in SW1 talk a lot about ‘diversity’ but they rarely mean ‘true cognitive diversity’. They are usually babbling about ‘gender identity diversity blah blah’. What SW1 needs is not more drivel about ‘identity’ and ‘diversity’ from Oxbridge humanities graduates but more genuine cognitive diversity.
We need some true wild cards, artists, people who never went to university and fought their way out of an appalling hell hole, weirdos from William Gibson novels like that girl hired by Bigend as a brand ‘diviner’ who feels sick at the sight of Tommy Hilfiger or that Chinese-Cuban free runner from a crime family hired by the KGB. If you want to figure out what characters around Putin might do, or how international criminal gangs might exploit holes in our border security, you don’t want more Oxbridge English graduates who chat about Lacan at dinner parties with TV producers and spread fake news about fake news.
By definition I don’t really know what I’m looking for but I want people around No10 to be on the lookout for such people.
We need to figure out how to use such people better without asking them to conform to the horrors of ‘Human Resources’ (which also obviously need a bonfire).
I bet my old aspergers housemate will apply for that. I reckon he's got a good chance too as a data scientist. Plus, nothing says wildcard like accusing your housemates of thinking you're a paedophile.
I will say though, putting HR on a massive bonfire wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.
Might want to put those job applications on ice Dominic MATE.
You can just do this? Can we have the money back?
One of both of them must be a complete wrong un. What is it they need to do in 'North America' and why have the others fallen out with them?
Why does it matter anyway, he doesn’t have any part in the line for the top job. Might as well live in the sun and enjoy his life.
They might as well release the DNA test results that were no doubt done at this stage anyhow.
If William got blown up by your mates then Harry would be next in line I think.
I’d say “my mates” could join the queue at this stage.
Would a Hewitt ever be in line when it came down to it though anyway?
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No, it would be Williams children before Harry.
Man, it'd be cool to have a kid monarch. We can totally get away with that now.
I'm surprised you guys keep this shit up as a country/commonwealth whatever you call it.
Blow them up as well, see off Harry and Archie, and bingo you have King Andrew I.
And then their children when they come of age.
She'll be going back to acting then.
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