That Gomez leg break is horrific, but how the hell has Son been sent off for an innocuous challenge when it was Aurier flying in and Gomez's own momentum that did the damage?
That Gomez leg break is horrific, but how the hell has Son been sent off for an innocuous challenge when it was Aurier flying in and Gomez's own momentum that did the damage?
I just tried to include clubs which were supported by folks on the website.
The top scorers was based on the top 5 leagues which were then listed under showing who lead each league at the time.
Yea you know me, always trying to enhance everyone's experience for some odd reason.
Niko Kovac sacked at Bayern.
Eriksen needs to fuck off to Inter Milan on a free already. He's absolute dogshit. An appalling game
Edouard is a better all round player, but Morelos is a better striker. When he moves on I suspect Edouard will find his best football comes as a number ten, while Morelos is as pure a nine as you'll see. Taking two far superior players as a shorthand, Edouard is Cantona to Morelos' Shearer.
Anyone else watching the AFC Cup Final?
4.25 goalkeeper An Tae-song just sent off in just 26th minute. Al Ahed (Hezbollah funded team) now clear favourites. Still 0-0.
Choe Chol-su makes way for 4.25 sub keeper Sin Tae-song.
Im guessing as its Asia, 4.25 is the goalkeeper's height in feet.
No they should walk off. Its sounds easy but I don't think none of the players been targeted gives a fuck.
Was at Brighton at the weekend and the joy of the goal has well and truly gone, as with the finger going up for lbw in cricket. Small celebration, then a subsequent ironic cheer when the goal is allowed to stand.
Never a game without a 'u wot m8' red card check as well.
It's complete bollocks and fuck the cunts who implemented it.
Is it being this well received wherever else it's been introduced?
What I'm also struggling to get my head around is why? It wasn't as if things were that broken in the first place and it was bloody obvious that football as a fast moving sport didn't lend itself well to video refereeing.
Since binning off my Sky subscription I don't actually watch much football these days, but it sounds like a good time to have ducked out. I feel for those of you that are emotionally invested in a club team and almost have to carry on as a result.
I don't remember it being as shit as this in the World Cup. Maybe we need to chuck Andre Marriner out of the booth and put Bakary Gassama in there.
I meant leagues more than international football,which I do still watch.
World Cup wasn't that bad, I'd agree.
Stannerz park should be no influence outside of a glorified video feed provider. If the referee feels his first instinct on an issue is inconclusive or has doubts, he can go to the monitor and review, asking the 4th official for input if needed. Otherwise the referees decision is final outside of:
2 challenges per half for each manager.
The manager has to state the infraction he's appealing.
An appeal obliges the ref to check the monitors for that infraction.
If the ref deems the appeal frivolous you lose your challenge, if you have no remaining challenges in that situation you get a yellow card.
It's so, so, so simple and they've absolutely cocked it up because everyone tasked with implementing it are 60+ and the ones building the system are nerds from Hawkeye who thinks you can apply tennis in/out and lbw to football.
What's an even worse idea?
Oh that's it.
I don't understand this argument, instead of tactical time-wasting 3 times a game we just have said 'tactical taboo' applied to literally every break in play?However, the Premier League will strongly argue against it – claiming it will lead to time-wasting and tactical appeals by managers to break up play and run down the clock.
VAR is good and it gets most things right.
You aren't a match going fan.
If you watched United lose a final to an offside goal would you console yourself that at least the opposition fans got to celebrate in real time?
I wouldn't care. The whole game is based around the thrill of a goal not that every decision has to be right every single time.
Anybody who becomes overly animated when a goal is scored is a loser anyway. The enjoyment of a goal doesn't fade after ten seconds, and ultimately the glory of winning is far better anyway. Any MATCH GOING adult should realise that there's far more to the game than celebrating goals.
No you're right. Sitting there waiting for some bloke to check a video screen for 3-4 minutes is absolutely brilliant.
I've had some brilliant moments stolen from me by dodgy refereeing, so I don't see how VAR is suddenly making everything shit. It was already shit. But tbf you've had Roy Carroll throwing balls out of the goal and getting away with it so I can see why you don't want VAR.
Ultimately, we should aim for a system that's totally fair.
Thats why you cut the game in half and stop the time when the game isnt actually played.
Edit: ball is in play for half the time anyway.
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Yes but football isn't a game of clock management now. You'd have tactics based around punting it out for throw-ins and shite. It'd be rubbish.
Want to speed the game up? Stop taking 20 seconds for throwins, a minute for goal kicks and 2 minutes for any free kick within 40 yards.
Goal kicks should definitely have a countdown clock if the multiball system is being used. Goalkeepers (other than when their team is losing towards the end) take so, so long. Go above 20 seconds and it's an automatic yellow.
To be honest, I'd argue it (VAR) still wasn't all that great at the World Cup, albeit better than the iteration we see now in the Prem. I can think of a number of pretty contentious decisions throughout the tournament, and a few of those being fairly integral to final results and qualification.
The way that it should have worked was four blokes sit in a room watching the game and if any two of them spot something that looks obviously wrong and is fundamental to the potential outcome of the game all four get one minute to look at it and if all four agree then the decision by the ref is overturned.
The problem then comes however that if the refereeing team know this then over time they're going to rely on it more and more knowing that if they do let a clanger go it'll be picked up, whereas if they don't and they get it wrong they can't rewind time to change that. Which is why it fundamentally doesn't really work and is only going to get worse.
That we have things like the Man City vs. Spurs CL goal being disallowed and Firmino's armpit being offside, was a consequence I hadn't even countenanced.
The game was and has been absolutely fine. This is all to make sure the BIG MONEY DECISIONS are correct. Don't think it has anything to do with you, the fan.
I would be fine with VAR if it was just on things that are obvious / needs one quick replay. But back and forth on questionable handballs or inconclusive offsides is not for the benefit of the match going fan.
I don't object to VAR, but the current implementation is just not good enough. As others have said, the 2-3 minutes of frame by frame checking to see if someone's kneecap was offside is just not on.
Benefits to the fans that don't help anybody's bottom line aren't the sort of benefits they're interested in.
Going to the match to enjoy it with your friends and watching your team is why you go. Not whether McTominnay's walloper is offside or not.
If results are irrelevant how is any team 'your team'?
Results aren't irrelevant but the enjoyment of the occasion isn't dominated by every decision being 100% right to the detriment of the actual sport. Added to that, the football team you bond with usually has some kind of family or location based attachment which then becomes important to you for that reason.
I don't even think it just affects match going fans. Waiting 3 minutes for someone to go through a replay, frame by frame, before you can celebrate, is shit no matter how you're watching.
It should have been left to blatant stuff (Maradona's handball, Lampard's ghost goal, etc.) and everything else left as it was.
Well don't the rules or guidelines say it's to undo "clear and obvious" mistakes?
Which should mean that if you haven't worked out without doing it frame by frame that there's an error then it wasn't clear and obvious and you move on.
I thought they did, but seemingly they're also trying to cure cancer.
I've barely watched any football this year but it sounds like it's been bizarrely bipolar as well. Either refusing to change anything or reviewing EVERYTHING.
Unnecessary wrestling chat because I am eedjit.
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But can Rollins do it on a cold Wednesday night in Stoke?
I've left that there so it's clear the foolish thing you're responding to.
And is it Wednesdays now? I thought rainy Tuesdays were the true test.
Just make them do the var replays in real time, without adding any lines or whatnot. If it’s clear and obvious they should be able to overturn it. If they have to get a digital ruler out that’s not clear and obvious and leave it be.
You’ll get a “perfect” solution if you use all the technology, the rule book interpreted in finest detail and many minutes to review. That’s not the point I don’t think. Unless it’s obviously wrong, the referee is the referee.
Ousmane Dembele truly is a terrible player. Barca spunking €105(+40) million on him has to be one of the worst pieces of transfer business ever.