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Thread: Apprentice 2019: Can blind people be just as smug?

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    How does he know pitching is one of his skills when he's 12 years old and works in a shop?

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    Thomas' reaction was amazing.

    From pure joy to dejection.

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    I'd take Thomas in just in the hope that he talks himself into trouble but I reckon objectively Riyonn probably ought to go.

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    Lottie is an odd choice.

    I've always thought that with these pitches you should be honest if you realise the product is shit and tell them how you're going to fix it. Standing there saying "this is gonna be the next big craze, best selling toy of 2019!" is bollocks when they can tell exactly how shite it is.

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    Lottie is a twat but what was she meant to do? Had she said it was all great they'd have pulled her up on lying.

    The focus group hated it because it was too young.

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    No idea how Riyonn is still there.

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    As you've both said, it was bizarre to take Lottie in there.

    I don't think Solomon had enough of an impact to get booted and Riyonn was fucking garbage. Ergo, Riyonn has a better business plan.

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    The women on one of the groups talking about how the world of unicorns and slime had never been brought together before, that's the kind of thing that stays with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    Lottie is a twat but what was she meant to do? Had she said it was all great they'd have pulled her up on lying.
    That's nonsense. You're not obligated to disclose everything. All she has to do is focus on the positives. Instead of "we got mixed reviews", just say "we got some great reviews". It's a skill that you need if you're going to be selling and pitching.

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    Anyway, Ryionn should've gone. He did the right thing in not taking in Tommy - even though the product was too young, it wasn't THAT bad, and he was the only one who actually did anything. The "viral video" was probably the worst thing ever done on the show, including pants man.

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    Yeah that video was incredibly bad. The final screen which comprised of just a green background, the logo and the words "Featuring. Tommy the Turtle" was like something created in a primary school IT lesson. Lottie's explanation of the market research was similar to a previous candidate (although nowhere near as bad), when he just explained all of the negative feedback in the pitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SvN View Post
    That's nonsense. You're not obligated to disclose everything. All she has to do is focus on the positives. Instead of "we got mixed reviews", just say "we got some great reviews". It's a skill that you need if you're going to be selling and pitching.
    At which point Sugar would have been fuming as it was a lie.

    Even her saying there were mixed reviews was a lie, the amazing focus group ripped it a new one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SvN View Post
    Anyway, Ryionn should've gone. He did the right thing in not taking in Tommy - even though the product was too young, it wasn't THAT bad, and he was the only one who actually did anything. The "viral video" was probably the worst thing ever done on the show, including pants man.
    It was 4-6 years too old but others could have pulled him up for that too.

    I'd have taken him in just in the hope of him stitching himself up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    At which point Sugar would have been fuming as it was a lie.

    Even her saying there were mixed reviews was a lie, the amazing focus group ripped it a new one.
    It wasn't a lie. They did get some positives. One of the girls said they liked the buttons, another said something about liking the positive messages. Obviously 90% of it was negative, but you focus on the 10% that wasn't. It's not a lie, it's being selective with what you say.

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    These people aren’t idiots though. Anyone can say “we’ve had some positive reviews!” They’re still going to look at it and realise it’s shite.

    She handles it badly, for sure, but I don’t think it would have helped them either way.

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    Lottie simply wasn't going to get sacked on the basis of her performance in the task so there was no value in taking her in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Browning View Post
    These people aren’t idiots though. Anyone can say “we’ve had some positive reviews!” They’re still going to look at it and realise it’s shite.

    She handles it badly, for sure, but I don’t think it would have helped them either way.
    100% agreed. They're not going to suddenly change their mind about the product. But she was there to talk about the focus group, and she did it badly. I just take objection with Mahow saying "What else could she do?!".

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