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  • Y'know, just being no more of a cunt to them than I am to anyone else.

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  • Grudgingly treating them like 'normal' people.

    3 37.50%
  • Prefixing your bigotry with "I'm not racist, but-"

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  • Daubing their houses in hilarious respectful graffiti to make them feel part of things.

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  • Lynchings.

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Thread: September kickball: The RESPECT edition

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    By joining everyone else in live commentary? Great shout.

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    Last night showed another problem with VAR. Lino puts up his flag, defenders (could) see it and stop defending, attacker carries on and scores - VAR allows it. We may as well get rid of linesman - just play on until VAR decided.

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    All the defenders carried on except young. The flag didn't seem to go up until Arsenal took the shot. Play to the whistle 101.

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    That lino was a disgrace. Decision insanely bad, put flag up too early (and did this repeatedly during the game), has he even had the VAR briefing? I guess a linesman's flag is 'non-binding' technically (play to the whistle) but I wondered whether they might have weaseled their way out of giving that goal on a technicality. Ref was close to whistling it as well.

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    He was flagging absolutely everything. Man Utd must have had about 3/4 different free kicks crossed in and offside was given. Just play on if you’re going to force VAR to be a thing and review it later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    That lino was a disgrace. Decision insanely bad, put flag up too early (and did this repeatedly during the game), has he even had the VAR briefing? I guess a linesman's flag is 'non-binding' technically (play to the whistle) but I wondered whether they might have weaseled their way out of giving that goal on a technicality. Ref was close to whistling it as well.
    The ref did whistle. I think it was before the goal was over the line, but after De Gea was already beaten - so it didn't really make a difference. Agreed though, why on Earth are they flagging that early?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Arne View Post
    Last night showed another problem with VAR. Lino puts up his flag, defenders (could) see it and stop defending, attacker carries on and scores - VAR allows it. We may as well get rid of linesman - just play on until VAR decided.
    I like how human incompetenece is prestented as 'anotehr problem with VAR'

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    I like how human incompetenece is prestented as 'anotehr problem with VAR'
    It's a problem with the implementation of the system. This is pretty obvious stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    I like how human incompetenece is prestented as 'anotehr problem with VAR'
    Do you think the VAR system itself wrote the rules, regulations and guidelines when using it?

    Is this Terminator?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruhnaldo View Post
    Do you think the VAR system itself wrote the rules, regulations and guidelines when using it?

    Is this Terminator?
    VAR could gang rape a group of kids and phonics won't hear a bad word about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruhnaldo View Post
    Do you think the VAR system itself wrote the rules, regulations and guidelines when using it?

    Is this Terminator?
    This guy thinks it's able to reproduce and sentient enough to rape people so maybe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    VAR could gang rape a group of kids and phonics won't hear a bad word about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    This guy thinks it's able to reproduce and sentient enough to rape people so maybe?
    That's took a wicked deflection.

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    Whole different type of foul in the box, that.

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    Humans fucking up by themselves > humans fucking up while using technology. So VAR out please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Humans fucking up by themselves > humans fucking up while using technology. So VAR out please.
    Should be a challenge system for exactly this reason. Manager fucks up by challenging, gets screwed by bad decision later = best outcome for lols.

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    Yeah, a challenge system would be ideal and is exactly how cricket uses it, to often hilarious effect.

    Refs having the power, as we are seeing, just leads to them checking absolutely everything and grey areas emerging. The best logic to use is: referee makes a call > is there evidence to overturn that call? > yes/fuck off. VAR does none of that, it's basically a glorified version of that BACK, AND TO THE LEFT thing from JFK.

    You also need to have the video ref mic'd up while he does things.

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    Making it a red card offense if a player storms the VAR room in Stockley Park is a perfect summary of it's implementation. It makes a farce of the system and the rules the system governs.

    The reason that Son offside is stupid is because offside is stupid, not VAR. The reason handball decisions seem ludicrous is because it's been a joke for years, not VAR.

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    Right but isn't it doubled down because the ridiculousness of the situation was supposed to be eliminated by "removing" the human element? Or am I missing this entirely?

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    Remember when Tony Pulis said Gnabry wasn't good enough for West Brom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruhnaldo View Post
    Right but isn't it doubled down because the ridiculousness of the situation was supposed to be eliminated by "removing" the human element? Or am I missing this entirely?
    Is there a decision made by VAR this year that’s been wrong?

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    I like the cricket analogy. Offside is the caught behind where there is a 'definite' answer, and everything else is subject to the dreaded Umpire's Call.

    Why don't they do the little look at the tv thing for the onfield ref anymore? In many of these marginal situations I'm sure a referee would be more likely to change their mind than someone in a tv room hundreds of miles away would be to overrule them. At least go through the charade.

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    Yes. 4 officially: https://www.forbes.com/sites/cybrown.../#106965f56fa9. And then many more where they refuse to overrule a wrong ruling by the on-field official in case they do the same to them the following week when they're in the middle.

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