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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    As ever it seems people are trying to complicate transfers. Manchester United will sign Harry Maguire if they meet the asking price. They haven’t yet, so he ain’t going.

    I feel they will get desperate and meet it but also Rodgers has said we have set a deadline before the actual transfer deadline as we don’t want to be scrambling to buy a replacement so United probably need to get a move on. Don’t think “Adam Webster” or whoever has anything to do with it.
    I want you to play that Turkish guy just to confirm whether we dodged a bullet or fucked another transfer up.

    Speaking of Leicester, anyone see this going round the other day?


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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    I want you to play that Turkish guy just to confirm whether we dodged a bullet or fucked another transfer up.
    He looks like a bit of a laugh. Shit hair, striding out of defence and pinging crossfield balls. But definite bomb scare in the brief minutes weíve seen thus far. Would rather give him and Benkovic a go than spend a huge chunk of the £90m Maguire fed (if United grasp the idea that this is the price and they have to meet it) this window.

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    What's up with the influx of Italians to the Premier League?

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    Leicester wanting Dunk as a replacement and Brighton wanting a replacement for Dunk is entirely believable.
    I wonder what the longest chain you could make is. Off the top of my head the best I can do is 4. Ozil to Arsenal funds Bale to Madrid funds Dempsey+Dembele to Tottenham which funds Berbatov to Fulham.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoonsky View Post
    What's up with the influx of Italians to the Premier League?
    https://www.premierleague.com/news/1213395

    I see Cutrone to Wolves and no-one else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    He looks like a bit of a laugh. Shit hair, striding out of defence and pinging crossfield balls. But definite bomb scare in the brief minutes we’ve seen thus far. Would rather give him and Benkovic a go than spend a huge chunk of the £90m Maguire fed (if United grasp the idea that this is the price and they have to meet it) this window.
    Just get both the Brighton CBs and make them watch Morgan/Huth videos all day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoonsky View Post
    What's up with the influx of Italians to the Premier League?
    New tax rules in Italy which mean that if you live for two years abroad and return you get a massive tax break. So an exodus of Italian players looking to return to Serie A in a couple of years. Read claims that it is one of the reasons both Ronaldo and Ramsey went to Juve as well.

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    So Cristiano is going to leave Juve and then come back for a tax break?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruhnaldo View Post
    So Cristiano is going to leave Juve and then come back for a tax break?
    He's conflating two tax breaks. The one mentioned is to get Italians who have money abroad to come back (my mates Dad has been wanting to move back to Sardinia but was unwilling to take the 35% tax to repatriate), there's a seperate one for foreigners earning over x amount that gives them a tax break if they base their affairs in Italy.

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    Ahhh ok my bad. Thanks bub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Dickhead Eric Bailly getting yet another injury buys Phil Jones another year, so some centre-back had better be happening.
    Still time for FEC to show us it isn't all bullshit.

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    16m for Cutrone seems an absolute steal. Isn't he meant to be Italys next big striker basically?

    Why are Milan selling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazuuurk View Post
    16m for Cutrone seems an absolute steal. Isn't he meant to be Italys next big striker basically?

    Why are Milan selling?
    Financial Fair Play Regulations

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    I only read it recently, but there is a good Guardian read from a few years ago about United and Liverpool in the nineties that covers that stuff well.
    I'm working my way through this article in bits and pieces but it's really good.

    Does anybody on here read The Blizzard regularly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel View Post
    Financial Fair Play Regulations
    Who have they spent so much on? And if that's the issue, why sell so cheap? I feel like that player is more proven than for instance Moise Keen, who is only a few years younger but twice the price almost? It still seems insanely cheap to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazuuurk View Post
    Who have they spent so much on? And if that's the issue, why sell so cheap? I feel like that player is more proven than for instance Moise Keen, who is only a few years younger but twice the price almost? It still seems insanely cheap to me.
    The last three years they have spent £388m somehow. In the same time, they have recouped £138.

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    What the fuck. Somehow is the word.

    That is some seriously fucking up in the market, then.

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    Looking a bit at it, they bought Bonucci from Juventus for 37M and then sold him back one year later for 31M.

    What the fuck. Italy, man.

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    The £20m here and £30m there adds up faster than you think. For the past three years, they have bought at least six players per season for £15m or more

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    Cutrone isnít very good, he had a solid few months about 2 years ago but no one expects him to be a class player anymore

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    Yup. That strategy always seems to be the absolute best way to financial ruin without at least getting some Silverware on the way.

    Always better to buy one star player for 80M than 3 mid-tier players for 25M each...

    See what happened with Spurs when they sold Bale, for instance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazuuurk View Post
    Yup. That strategy always seems to be the absolute best way to financial ruin without at least getting some Silverware on the way.

    Always better to buy one star player for 80M than 3 mid-tier players for 25M each...

    See what happened with Spurs when they sold Bale, for instance.
    They transformed their squad and ended up in a Champions League final?

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    Can Bale take credit for that though? He was sold six years ago...

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    They hadn't signed anyone for 2 years prior to this summer and when you consider that their Net Spend is generally one of the lowest in the league I think you can point to Bales £90m having a ripple effect for a good few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mugbull View Post
    Cutrone isn’t very good, he had a solid few months about 2 years ago but no one expects him to be a class player anymore
    Strange because I saw Milan folk on twitter losing their shit about how could they do this to a kid who was supposed to becom the next great one club man or some shit lol

    I'm not saying you're wrong it's just funny how there's such a difference of opinion all the time.

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    I saw some folk on twitter?

    Is that any levels up from comment sections?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    They transformed their squad and ended up in a Champions League final?
    Spurs spent all of the Bale money in the summer he left the club. Only two of these players (Eriksen and Lamela) are still at the club while some of their signings that summer contributed next to nothing to the teams results - Soldado etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    I saw some folk on twitter?

    Is that any levels up from comment sections?
    What's the difference between the opinions of people on here than other people on a different social media platform, exactly?

    Especially when they're folk who basically dedicate their accounts to talking about specific football clubs?

    What a strange response.

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    Iíve never watched him play, Iíve just heard this from a bunch of Milan fans the past 3 months

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave. View Post
    Spurs spent all of the Bale money in the summer he left the club. Only two of these players (Eriksen and Lamela) are still at the club while some of their signings that summer contributed next to nothing to the teams results - Soldado etc.
    Chadli reached double figures the following season tbf. Capoue went on to be a Premier League regular but the one that sticks out after a little look is Paulinho. Definitely dodge.

    Tottenham buy him for just under £17m, then they sell him to China for £10m, Barcelona sign him for £36M, he does the double with them before being loaned back to China less than a year later, then six months after that they Chinese snap him up again for £37m. Suspect as fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    I'm working my way through this article in bits and pieces but it's really good.

    Does anybody on here read The Blizzard regularly?
    Yeah, it's good. I haven't got a copy for a while but have listened to the podcasts recently (just a guy reading the articles). There was an interview with Alex Ferguson in one of the early issues, that's worth checking out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave. View Post
    Spurs spent all of the Bale money in the summer he left the club. Only two of these players (Eriksen and Lamela) are still at the club while some of their signings that summer contributed next to nothing to the teams results - Soldado etc.
    And the sales of the useless players were invested again. The core of the side was built within 3 years of Bale going.

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    Utd have signed Hannibal Mejbri, an extremely highly rated 16 year old midfielder who we've been after for ages. 10m euros.

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    Cheers mate

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    I look forward to seeing him move on a free transfer at 20.

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    To Newcastle on 90k per week, having made 3 appearences in the League Cup.

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    Optimistic.

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    *West Ham

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    Sunderland used to be the Man Utd dump, didn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruhnaldo View Post
    Strange because I saw Milan folk on twitter losing their shit about how could they do this to a kid who was supposed to becom the next great one club man or some shit lol

    I'm not saying you're wrong it's just funny how there's such a difference of opinion all the time.
    I think outside of Juve the levels of expectation in Italy are pretty far from those in the Premier League. There's no way Cutrone is the next great Italian striker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    Utd have signed Hannibal Mejbri, an extremely highly rated 16 year old midfielder who we've been after for ages. 10m euros.
    Exciting. On a similar note, Zoran Tosic is thirty-two. Where does the time go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    They transformed their squad and ended up in a Champions League final?
    That same summer they bought Lamela and Soldado for 30M each, Paulinho for 20m, Eriksen for 13M (that, admittedly, was a bargain), Capoue for 11M, Vlad Chiriches and Nacer Chadli for about 9M each.

    Now I may remember it wrongly, but I think they were doing quite shit in the league after that. But I may be wrong


    The principle in general never seems to work. Like when Arsenal sold Van Persie and 30 goals per year and replaced it with "not bad but not star" players, like Mertesacker and Arteta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazuuurk View Post
    That same summer they bought Lamela and Soldado for 30M each, Paulinho for 20m, Eriksen for 13M (that, admittedly, was a bargain), Capoue for 11M, Vlad Chiriches and Nacer Chadli for about 9M each.

    Now I may remember it wrongly, but I think they were doing quite shit in the league after that. But I may be wrong


    The principle in general never seems to work. Like when Arsenal sold Van Persie and 30 goals per year and replaced it with "not bad but not star" players, like Mertesacker and Arteta.
    My point is that even after buying a load of shite, they sold them off and recycled the money again. Without Bale going for what was a huge sum at the time you don't get the squad they have right now.

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    Most of their success has come from Pochettino, Kane, Alli and Eriksen who they signed for a combined fee of about 20m.

    In recent times they've had more success than failures but there was a time most the transfers in were shite.

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    Alderweireld and Son too.

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    This Lukaku for Dybala swap deal, if true, is somehow a terrible deal for both clubs.

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    I'm sure I must have seen Dybala play at some point but I can't pretend to recall if I have.

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    I think he's fairly inconsistent, and that's in Serie A where he's played his whole career. Strikes me as the opposite of what United need.

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    Another pacey attacker who is either really good or basically absent and never anything in between?

    Awesome.

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    One team loses a Lukaku and one teams gains a Lukaku, so it's not a terrible deal for the former.

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