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    He'll aim at one of them during the battle, bottle it at the last minute and save them from certain death. The whole show has been people eventually deciding that money and riches aren't more important than people they care about or dying.

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    Do Team Incest even know the zombies have a zombie dragon?

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    Pretty sure Brann mentioned that last episode.

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    Is the Night King meant to be properly sentient or is he a sort-of-sentient, force-of-nature type fella?

    Just wondering given they were asking where he is / what his plan is whether he could be taking his dragon and another load of dead chaps down to Kings Landing and attack both at the same time. I mean 20000 Golden Company chaps is a lot of cannon fodder for them to murder their way through while they wait for the survivors of Winterfell to rock up.

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    Likewise, I thought that was a good episode. I think Grey Worm is nailed on for death seeing as he had his 'when this is over let's go and retire somewhere' conversion. Lyanna continues to steal every little scene she's in and if there isn't a Tormund - Briennne sex scene that makes 50 Shades of Grey look like 70's softcore I'll be disappointed.

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    I think the idea with the Night King is we don't know anything about him, except his predilection for a relaxed pace of advance. Perhaps we'll find out more about him in the remaining episodes, or perhaps we won't.

    Also I have only realised in this episode why so much screen time has been wasted on Grey Worm / Missandei in the last few series - they are the only 'POC'.

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    Might be overthinking it but I'd have thought the episode would have finished with a shot of the Night King with all his ZZ Top mates. Is his absence from the shot telling?

    Surely there's no fucking way it just ends at Winterfell then they all march South to off Cersei and take the iron throne?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    Do Team Incest even know the zombies have a zombie dragon?
    The Three Eyed Dickhead mentioned it, and the lads who were still at the wall when it fell saw it, some of whom are now at Winterfell.

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    I was going to say 'They know he can raise the dead, so obviously they know he'll have done it to the dragon', but they've just stashed their kids in a fucking crypt, so who knows if they would have worked it out.

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    I've read the undead stark might pop up to protect the crypt cowards. Also, the white night going to destroy the fleet and pillaging/marrying Cersai.

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    Everyone in the crypts is dead as fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    The Three Eyed Dickhead mentioned it, and the lads who were still at the wall when it fell saw it, some of whom are now at Winterfell.
    If they know about it, then shouldn't they be thinking up some kind of anti-dragon defences? Massive crossbows or something. They didn't mention it at all.

    Then again, it's similar for the Night King. Not sure densely packing infantry into neat rows is the best idea when your opposition have aerial flamethrowers flapping about

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    I assume their anti-dragon defence is their dragons.

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    I assume their anti-dragon defence is the Night Cunt lobbing pointy sticks at them, given he drove off two or three (I forget) on his own with that tactic previously, killing one in the process.

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    This is a pretty interesting theory - makes sense on a number of levels.

    https://thehooksite.com/heres-the-te...of-winterfell/

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    Yeah I pondered that upthread, albeit with less words/ detail. It would probably help solve the problem where if Team Zombie lose this it's an anticlimax but if they win it feels like there's not enough time to deal with that AND Kings Landing.

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    As soon as we didn't see him in the closing shot I thought the same. RIP Cersei.

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    Can zombie mountain be white-walkered since he's already sort of dead?

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    There’s surely no way Cersei dies without Jaime being involved?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Browning View Post
    There’s surely no way Cersei dies without Jaime being involved?
    He kills the dead version.

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    Book knob here: I've sort of assumed they're more of a curse on humanity than a force with any real purpose beyond eating everyone's faces off. It would also make sense to be able to break the spell or turn them all off in some way rather than having to defeat them militarily which seems a bit far fetched after this many years of constantly murdering everyone.

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    My thought was it might be the old gods way of taking the world back from the children of whatever they were. It's been far too long for me to remember who was who in the origins.

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    Yeah, that sort if thing would work quite well.

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    Is there any Red Woman pay-off expected? Because there ought to be, given that it has proven itself to be the actually true religion.

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    She definitely has a part to play.

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    They wouldn't have brought back Berwick Dondarrion if the lord of light wasn't going to get involved.

    Is the prophecy bollocks in the TV show at all? I really can't remember.

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    Certainly the three children who all die bit was, but I’m not sure the other half was in the show.

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    I'm thinking about the promised prince waving the flaming sword thing. It's big news in the book but really can't remember if it's in the programme, and given they haven't shouted it in the first two episodes here I presume it isn't.

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    Melisandre mentioned The Prince Who Was Promised every time she appeared for about three years. The flaming sword has come up as well, away from Beric having one.

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    Not being as into tits as some, I tended to zone out whenever she came on screen.

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    I like to think The Hound beating Beric in his trial by combat might have some higher meaning too given that's exactly what Beric bleated on about.

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    Seeing as they just don't have the numbers to win versus The Zombies, surely the only silver bullet solution to the ending is Jon Snow/Tyrion/someone versus the Night King which then killswitches the whole lot?

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    Yes that’s literally the key point that they discuss in the battle tactics scene...

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    This season has peaked already with that Tormund scene.

    I cannot fathom they will do anything better than that.

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    BTW I reckon we'll see Ghost die soon enough ( ) as he was standing around in the background in one of the shots in the last episode and I don't think he's been pictured at all in like the last 2-3 seasons or something.

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    I had decided just before the first episode came out to wait until the season had finished and then just binge.

    However, adverts for tonight's episode has made me cave and I just watched the first two.

    Tormund on the second was fucking amazing and probably at his best. The story of how he was named 'Giantsbane' was fucking fantastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    I had decided just before the first episode came out to wait until the season had finished and then just binge.

    However, adverts for tonight's episode has made me cave and I just watched the first two.

    Tormund on the second was fucking amazing and probably at his best. The story of how he was named 'Giantsbane' was fucking fantastic.
    I vaguely recognised some of it, it's touched on here.



    All the History and Lore videos are worth a listen.

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    That was so fucking easy lmao.

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    Toggle Spoiler

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    Must be pretty easy to make the longest battle scene ever when your draw distance is about a foot infront of every actor.

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    That was largely quite well done tbh, except for the standard inability to suspend one's disbelief about the ability of named characters to survive.

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    One of the tropes in Tv/movies that pisses me off the most is the 1 on 1 where the hero is incapacitated or without weapon and the fully weaponized enemy is inching towards them (despite being in the midst of a raging battle) and drawing their sword in extra slow motion before being killed in the back moments before striking the blow. The hero is saved. Sheesh. That happened about 10 times in the last episode.

    Or the initial Arya scene where she’s gratuitously whirling her shit around her head while fending off like 10 wights, Jackie Chan style.

    On the plus side, the cinematography was brilliant and properly scary.

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    I thought that was a load of shit.

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    Also, the end was basically:

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    I thought it was surprisingly engaging considering I can't sit through 98% of films without dying of boredom.

    Nightking got owned hard though.

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    I didn’t realize that their entire army would immediately die forever if he was killed. I thought would just disperse or something. That’s a pretty big design flaw if you ask me.

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    Lyanna's death scene was pretty good, but aside from that it was a load of Battle Scene Cliche bollocks, and the way The Night King died, after surviving a fucking dragon to the face, was a massive anti-climax.

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    I have super mixed feelings about that. It was good. Not great, but good. The Bran / Night King stuff was a massive anticlimax and while I thought they did a grand job of making the snow zombies legitimately horrific to be under attack from that they've lost so soon after spending however many seasons doing the square root of fuck was also an anticlimax.

    As a big, grim battle sequence to make the walkers look like an unstoppable nightmare it did the job in the same way that Hardhome did but I don't really see why we couldn't have had a little more of this (and maybe show his imperviousness to dragonfire before now too) and then their eventual defeat would have been a bit more cathartic. Arya Nightcrawler-ing in and then her shanking him was nifty but his death itself just sort of had me going "oh, right."

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    That was largely quite well done tbh, except for the standard inability to suspend one's disbelief about the ability of named characters to survive.
    Yeah a number of them had their dragonglass plot armour on.

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    I enjoyed that thoroughly but I will readily admit that I seem to have a supernatural ability to suspend all disbelief, no matter how ludicrous things get.

    As things stand that was basically World War Z, GoT style.

    They could have done things better with the plot armour as well. I lost count of how many times Brienne, Jamie, Pod, Sandor, Grey Worm and Sam should have died. In all honesty they probably all should have except Jamie (plot isn't done with him) and Sandor (CLEGANEBOWL)

    That said, if there was a way to do a truly apocalyptic battle then that was it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Shearer The 2nd View Post
    Surely there's no fucking way it just ends at Winterfell then they all march South to off Cersei and take the iron throne?
    I enjoyed that a lot right up until this was confirmed. To finish that in one episode after building it up for so long can't be anything but disappointing.

    Seeing the Night King come out of the dragon fire was setting it all up too.

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