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  • Tottenham vs. Arsenal (02/03)

    3 16.67%
  • El Clasico Mate (02/03)

    4 22.22%
  • Merseyside derby (03/03)

    1 5.56%
  • Milan derby (17/03)

    2 11.11%
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    4 22.22%
  • That Mitchell & Webb video must be over a decade old, Webly, you arse.

    1 5.56%
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Thread: March '19 football, featuring DERBIES

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    Trophy less Gerrard

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    Not dead. Got up early to watch the Juventus-Atletico match.

    What a game. I've watched the replay a half dozen times, and I still can't figure out how Ronaldo got to the ball for the first goal. Oblak's non-save for the second goal may be one of the best ever saves to not actually be a save in the end. And Bernadeschi's run to win the penalty was the highlight of the entire match. Ronaldo was worth every penny we paid for him.

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    If Juve win the Champions League this season, I'd say that confirms Ronaldo for the best Champions League player of all time. He's such a big game player.

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    He already is the best Champions' League player of all time. The question is what it does to the main debate.

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    I still edge Messi over Ronaldo. Both have had to change their game in recent years. Ronaldo is now on the end of everything in the box, whereas Messi is still trying to make shit happen on the half way line. Both are 1 and 2 of all time on my list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    He already is the best Champions' League player of all time. The question is what it does to the main debate.
    This.

    I’d still take Ronaldo regardless.

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    I'm amazed by Ronaldos seeming ability to will himself to score. Sometimes you can just see it on him, he's a beast to begin with - but somehow still has the ability to go into Beast Mode from there anyway.

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    Didn’t Ronaldo do this against Juve last season? (or the season before that)

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    Beeb has some highlight reel of LvGs best comments. That man was a genius.

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/av/football/35145613


    Captain "Mike Smalling"

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    Ronaldo > *

    I don't think there's even much doubt about it any more.

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    Messi almost single handedly dragged Barca to a title last season. They lost one game all season, in which he didn't play...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazuuurk View Post
    Beeb has some highlight reel of LvGs best comments. That man was a genius.

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/av/football/35145613


    Captain "Mike Smalling"
    LvG looks like a worm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Messi almost single handedly dragged Barca to a title last season. They lost one game all season, in which he didn't play...
    Cristiano single handedly dragged Portugal to a Euro final and, especially given Real's results this year, seemingly 3 European Cups in a row though?

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    Those are cup competitions. You can add the amount of actually competitive games he played in in those 4 cups and it probably doesn't even add up to one league season. I'm not trying to do down any of those achievements but to say Messi isn't close is just horse shit.

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    It was 6-2 in leagues in his time in Spain, for comparison.

    And they do say that's the true measure of a team, although I don't now about individual players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Those are cup competitions. You can add the amount of actually competitive games he played in in those 4 cups and it probably doesn't even add up to one league season. I'm not trying to do down any of those achievements but to say Messi isn't close is just horse shit.
    How many of league games were against Albacete U11's? And lets not get silly, nobody claimed it wasn't close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco View Post
    How many of league games were against Albacete U11's? And lets not get silly, nobody claimed it wasn't close.
    The same amount of games as Real Madrid I presume.

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    I actually think it's ruud.

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    Ronaldo definitely has more of that “clutch” factor that american sports journalists always talk about. Whether that makes him a better player, idk. He’s vile, though. There’s a reason Mike Tyson isn’t such a huge draw anymore

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    Yeah, he isn't a boxer anymore.

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    I think it always came down to who had the better supporting cast, and to what extent that enabled them to do whatever they were doing. If Ronaldo wins multiple Champions' Leagues across three sides it would give him a better claim to have got the best out of his respective teammates, since Barcelona (and therefore the other bloke) have arguably under-achieved in the competition since 2011, when the rest of the side was pretty outrageous. They won in 2015 with peak Luis Suarez and Neymar on fire, but one in seven with Lionel Messi and the ability to sign whoever you want isn't particularly great.

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    Lol. That's 10 times the penalty that yesterday's was

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    ‘Only him’ says the commentator when Aguero literally done the same thing yesterday.

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    A thing is always better when a top, top player does it than when anybody else does exactly the same thing.

    I remember whichever dickhead La Liga co-commentator it is Sky have / used to have coaxing himself towards climax because Messi was still running in the 90th minute.

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    Mane, obvs.

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    That's pure class.

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    small

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    I think it always came down to who had the better supporting cast, and to what extent that enabled them to do whatever they were doing. If Ronaldo wins multiple Champions' Leagues across three sides it would give him a better claim to have got the best out of his respective teammates, since Barcelona (and therefore the other bloke) have arguably under-achieved in the competition since 2011, when the rest of the side was pretty outrageous. They won in 2015 with peak Luis Suarez and Neymar on fire, but one in seven with Lionel Messi and the ability to sign whoever you want isn't particularly great.
    These stats are mad:

    Ronaldo is the Champions League’s all-time top scorer with 124, and there is more than that. Ronaldo without penalties is the Champions League’s second-top scorer. Ronaldo at Real Madrid alone is the Champions League’s fourth-top scorer. Only Leo Messi and Raúl have scored more Champions League goals than Ronaldo has scored in knockout rounds alone. He scored in the 2008 final (although he missed a penalty), in the 2014 final and twice in the 2017 final. In 2016 he scored the penalty in the shootout that won it.
    https://www.theguardian.com/football...tletico-madrid

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    That might officially be the worst penalty ever.

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    Virgil!!

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    English football taking over.

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    Went for a shit and missed that goal.

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    The longer the cunts are in this the better.

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    Bayern are a proper direction-less mess. The pitfalls of binman management.

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    The horror of a Liverpool double or a City Quadruple LOOMS LARGE.

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    Have we had 4 English teams in the quarters before?

    Bayern were really bad tonight. Lewandowski is now too immobile for the highest level I feel. Bayern haven't really got much going for them player-wise. A load of big units and some foreign fancy dans with little end product.

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    Robertson getting booked was very stupid.

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    The pendulum has swung back around, PL now completely dominant again. Cue Karl-Heinz having another whinge in the summer no doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJay View Post
    Have we had 4 English teams in the quarters before?

    Bayern were really bad tonight. Lewandowski is now too immobile for the highest level I feel. Bayern haven't really got much going for them player-wise. A load of big units and some foreign fancy dans with little end product.
    I don't think so. Might be wrong and can't be arsed to check, but even the two years where we had 3 semi finalists there weren't four quarter finalists.

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    We had four in 07/08 (Ronaldo Year). The classic Sky Four, RIP.

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    08/09 as well.

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    I've done well there.

    Villa 2 points off the playoffs from absolutely no where. Grealish back for 3 games and we've won all 3. I'd love him to stick around. Brilliant to watch, but think he'll be off in the summer.

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    Barca and City to draw the easier ties, small pockets v bin man & Ronaldo v VVD.

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    You knew where you were with the Sky Four. We wouldn't have Trump or Brexit if they were still dominant.

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    Anyone but an English team.

    Final tickets go on ballot tomorrow, fyi.

    Flights to Madrid already seem to be going mental.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mellberg View Post
    I've done well there.

    Villa 2 points off the playoffs from absolutely no where. Grealish back for 3 games and we've won all 3. I'd love him to stick around. Brilliant to watch, but think he'll be off in the summer.
    It is remarkable what's happened in the past week - we've been completely directionless for months, scavenging the odd result here and there and drawing loads of games that just about kept us in the hunt. Now, Grealish back, three wins, and we're right in the hunt again at just the right time.

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    Sometimes, all you need is a spark. Where would we be without Almiron?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pen View Post
    Didn’t Ronaldo do this against Juve last season? (or the season before that)
    Last season. Got some against us in the CL final the year before, but it was really the Casemiro goal that did us in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazuuurk View Post
    I'm amazed by Ronaldos seeming ability to will himself to score. Sometimes you can just see it on him, he's a beast to begin with - but somehow still has the ability to go into Beast Mode from there anyway.
    Without wanting to harp on about it too much, his first goal was a fantastic example. I'm not normally the sort of person who talks about things like "desire" or "wanting it more", but that goal was basically willed out of nothing. He was completely covered, and he still found a ghost of a way through.

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    He scored that goal because he has hops that an NBA player would be proud of, not because he really wanted to score

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