The United run does seem a lot like the one Di Matteo had.
Tottenham vs. Arsenal (02/03)
El Clasico Mate (02/03)
Merseyside derby (03/03)
Milan derby (17/03)
Some random game John Arne will post about (??/??)
That Mitchell & Webb video must be over a decade old, Webly, you arse.
Some other derby nobody cares about
The United run does seem a lot like the one Di Matteo had.
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Nah, Chelsea didn't play anyone good till the semi against Barca and they were awful in the league.
We also don't have a potential full kit wanker.
Team no penalty for me
I would just like to say that I remember people defending Mourinho by saying the players weren’t good enough as is often the case when a big team plays badly. Unless they’re absolute dogshit, if a team is playing as badly as Utd were under Mourinho it’s always the manager, always.
I agree, but i think there's a sorta proviso that it's not necessarily the manager's "fault". Like it isn't a clear "it was the players being shit/dickheads" vs "mourinho lost the plot" dichotomy. If that makes sense.
Didn't Sacchi or someone say at best a manager can make a team 10% better than the sum of it's parts but a bad one can make them 50% worse?
That was amazing. Can't think for a better way for PSG to go out.
VAR is going to wreck football. Away from the comedy handballs that always look 100% deliberate in slo-motion (I'd have given that one last night, but I wouldn't say I was impartial) the game is going to be (even more) about falling over convincingly in the opponent's penalty area, cf the other tie.
What was the deal with the 9 minutes of added time? I'm sure the penalty incident happened after 90 minutes, and it was taken on 93, so at most they should have added another 3 and not 6.
I miss Jose.
I'm a twit
I think every red in the country was shouting blow your whistle. Definitely an element of giving them a chance to level it and even DDG decided to take the piss with a comedy punch out.
Yeah, the De Gea thing was mad. The PSG defender climbing all over the back of someone and then going down looking for a penalty was more gold.
Please be a Manchester Derby in the quarters.
It's going to be like DRS in that everyone will suddenly realise that about 50% more penalties should be given than are given, and so you're going to be playing for them. It wouldn't surprise me if set pieces come back into vogue as there's no real way of reliably defending against them other than committing fouls which are usually ignored.
Absolutely no way was that a deliberate hand ball.
Have we reached the stage yet where every single offside is checked by VAR?
According to the guidance refs have been issued, it doesn't have to be deliberate to be handball. You can disagree with the rule, but the ref called it correctly.Absolutely no way was that a deliberate hand ball.
I think the arm needs to be in a slightly more elevated position to really fit with the guidance (the arm is, afterall, always going increase the silouette of the body somewhat) but, at the same time, he was jumping to block the ball, the arm was a bit away from his body and it blocked the ball.
Much less clearcut than Otamendi's the other week, given the range and arm position.
It's going to end up a strict liability thing and we'll be back in 1998 (or was it '94?) with Roberto Baggio dinking the ball into defenders hands from 1 yard away
It's clearly not deliberate, and that should be the end of the debate. The shot is definitely flying over, so the fact it hits his hand and goes off for a corner is an advantage for United, if anything. It's a very fortunate decision and normally I'd be peeved that United have benefited, but this is definitely a case of them being the lesser of two evils.
Are we going to see more of that ridiculous arms behind the back attempting to block pose now? That seemed to disappear for a while. Surely a more “unnatural” position than Kimpembe there.
Even aside from it benefiting United it's a lovely double-whammy of punishing defenders idiot enough to turn their back on the ball and making Neymar seethe so I'm all for it.
Ive been preaching this for years. That is the biggest problem. Most of the shots would be blocked if they kept thier eyes on the ball, like a goalkeeper.
The only acceptable way to turn your back to the ball.
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I mean yes, VAR are constantly re-checking everything that's of any major impact to the game aren't they? If the offside amounts in a goal, then they always make sure, I guess. If it doesn't amount to anything, then why bother.Absolutely no way was that a deliberate hand ball.
Have we reached the stage yet where every single offside is checked by VAR?
It was like yesterday when there was a review about whether the ball was in play or not about 30 seconds before Ajax scored or something when they were launching their counter. How far back in time do you go? If a foul was neglected 5 minutes ago and the ball hasn't gone out of play, should a subsequent goal be ruled out?
It's starting to get really evident that there needs to be some clearer guidelines and maybe rule clarifications if VAR is to be implemented consistently over all the top competitions (is that even financially viable?).
I was a big fan at first, but I'm less certain now. It's like, you can (most of the time), never really "argue" with VAR decisions. But it fundamentally changes the game, it'll become like Basketball or something in a few years unless theres some adaptation done.
In the VAR world the handball test needs to be 2-stage:
1 - is it clearly intentional? Yes, penalty (foul), no, go to 2,
2 - does the defender or defending team gain a clear advantage* from the handball? Yes, proceed to sanction, no, no further action
*this envisages shots on target being blocked, balls travelling to opponents being blocked, situations where you gain control of the ball etc as events where the defending (handballing) team gains an advantage.
It should, obviously, then be applied all over the pitch, which may or may not be problematic. Probably not so much as the disproportionate nature of the sanction to the offence doesn't exist outside of the penalty area.
When there's room for interpretation the wrong decision can always be made.
I had a half-thought out notion earlier that you could just do it so that if the ball hits the hand (unless it's directly in front of the player's body) it's always penalised, if it's stopping a shot on target it's a penalty if not (a cross, say) it's an indirect free kick but that doesn't really work either. All you're doing is moving the judgement call to a different part of the action and you're left with the same problem.
I think the only solution is to chop professional outfield players' arms off and provide them with prosthetics for when they're not playing.
I would just admit defeat, cancel all future football and play handball instead.
If the players are being dickheads/not playing it's the manger's fault.
This is the sort of thing that I've always rallied against it for. If you're going to use it for everything then you can't stop play for anything until that period of play has come to a natural end.
If that natural end is a goal then you then end up with a wait before anyone can celebrate the goal. Which is shit and will ultimately end up happening a lot, particularly when officials rely on it more and more. Which they will as it's human nature to.
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That doesn’t half look odd.
Does it? I’m not sure PSG even existed when a few of those clubs did it.
All those football (footie) banter accounts should be marched outside and shot. Almost all of them doing it for some kind of monetary objective too.
Sokratis is going to get caned but I think I’ve seen Ozil complete three passes and Aubameyang maybe one.
Whilst you should have had three or four by now that red card is mental.
https://www.skysports.com/football/n...abbed-in-paris
People are such shitheads :/
That’s disgusting!
Is this a second leg?
Unlucky to find the one bloke in Paris who actually gives a shit about PSG.The 44-year-old was travelling back to the city centre after the game with three other supporters when the driver took offence to them singing in celebration of United's dramatic late winner.
The form difference between home and away is just on another level. It's been years now.
Scenes on La Rue de la Soif tonight no doubt.
Hudson Odoi might take over from Hazard. Some boi
Doesn't seem your type.
How on earth is Mustafi playing at this level?
We have been genuinely good for the last four games, save for half an hour against Fulham. Most of it is down to Jorginho not being absolute dreck because teams have stopped putting a man on him for some reason.
I love how Neymar deep down knows that moving to PSG for the cash was a stupid move in terms of ever winning stuff and his career in general, but somehow tries to hold on to the idea that PSG might win stuff just as much as Barca might in some sort of sad self-justification.
There may not be a nobler cause in football than to make Neymar unhappy.
Neymar gets to much heat for the PSG move. You have to ride for your team. He cant be still dickriding barcelona or any other team. Since his time at PSG, he has won more trophies than he would have if he stayed at Barcelona. But somehow it was a stupid move. He can surpass Zlatan if his timeing and decesions are correct. That sounds like a good career path for me.
You are fucking nuts son.
"Surpass Zlatan"
Fucking go check yourself.
Course he can. The leagues around europe are less competative than ever. You can go to italy and england and get into teams that will win league titles. Easy work.
I can fully get behind this cause.
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