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  • vs. Leicester (a) - Premier League, 3rd of February

    2 6.45%
  • vs. Fulham (a) - Premier League, 9th of February

    2 6.45%
  • vs. PSG (h) - Champions League, 12th of February

    7 22.58%
  • vs. Chelsea (a) - FA Cup, 18th of February

    5 16.13%
  • vs. Liverpool (h) - Premier League, 24th of February

    6 19.35%
  • vs. Crystal Palace (a) - Premier League, 27th of February

    1 3.23%
  • After February

    0 0%
  • NEVER

    8 25.81%
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Thread: Feb '19 football: Sponsored by Ole Gunnar Binman

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    I think handballs like that one for the first penalty should be red cards. I don't see how intent should play into any of this if the effect is exactly the same as, for instance, the deliberate Suarez shitshow in 2010. You'll still send someone off for accidentally elbowing someone in the face and breaking their jaw, you know. Or for a fair attempt at a tackle that misses the ball and breaks Aaron Ramsey's leg.

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    I'm not sure you can say that prevented a certain goal.

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    Also, there's a slight conceptual difference between breaking someones jaw/leg and preventing a goal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazuuurk View Post
    Also, there's a slight conceptual difference between breaking someones jaw/leg and preventing a goal
    What difference is that?
    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    I'm not sure you can say that prevented a certain goal.
    I think it did, but you're right this one isn't as clear and cut as some others

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    Morelos with 4 goals today for Rangers 😎

    Edit: Had forgotten Kamara had moved there too. Hope they win something domestically.
    Last edited by Pen; 20-02-2019 at 09:34 PM.

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    The difference is that you hurt other people breaking their bones.

    It's sort of like the difference between not paying your taxes and shooting someone.

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    Although, in terms of the rules of the game, deliberately preventing a goal by foul means is more of a red card than an injury inflicting action (which can be accidental or innocuous).

    VAR going mad tonight.

    Sort it out City. Maybe we could start a website?

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    That's outrageous from Sane, but the commentator needs to calm down with his NARRATIVE shit. He's behaving like Sane is the first player ever to score against a former club.

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    Juve


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    Insane freekick. So clever.

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    Never seen Sane even hit a free kick either.

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    Schalke's defending is suicidal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazuuurk View Post
    Never seen Sane even hit a free kick either.
    He's scored at least one other blinder this season, although I guess pecking orders get in the way a lot of the time.

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    Well, whats the pecking order based on then? Haven't ever seen De Bruyne or Silva score one I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazuuurk View Post
    Well, whats the pecking order based on then? Haven't ever seen De Bruyne or Silva score one I think.
    Seniority.

    It's why Ronaldo has been allowed to spaff them into the crowd forever.

    In other news:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/47309681



    *Something about his finishing going missing as well.*

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    Is it me or does it always happen on a Champions' League night?

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    Well, it's the second time for him apparently, according to that article.

    I guess they didn't bother with Lovren as he was probably at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Well, it's the second time for him apparently, according to that article.

    I guess they didn't bother with Lovren as he was probably at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazuuurk View Post
    The difference is that you hurt other people breaking their bones.

    It's sort of like the difference between not paying your taxes and shooting someone.
    We're talking about football, not criminal law, right? Preventing a certain goal is way more significant to the game than breaking someone's jaw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    I forgot about that image.


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    lol at Steve Clarke 'greetin' all over the telly.

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    Ronaldo

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    Just seen what the Kilmarnock 'keeper was sent off for.

    Good grief.

    Refereeing seems to have gone completely off the rails up there.

    Also, I'm pretty sure that finish by Sterling was just a really bad touch.

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    It's a ridiculous decision. They could've still lost a man but the keeper wasn't at fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mugbull View Post
    We're talking about football, not criminal law, right? Preventing a certain goal is way more significant to the game than breaking someone's jaw
    It might not be more significant long term if said player is key and misses several weeks of the season.

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    Is embedding tweets broken?

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    Nah, that's working.

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    These Europa League start times are an absolute joke. I'm an hour ahead and on holiday and it still feels too early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mugbull View Post
    We're talking about football, not criminal law, right? Preventing a certain goal is way more significant to the game than breaking someone's jaw
    Are you daft? The whole point is that the players well-being is more important than whoever wins or loses.

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    That sounds like losin' talk to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazuuurk View Post
    Are you daft? The whole point is that the players well-being is more important than whoever wins or loses.
    I mean I agree, if you fuck someone up by accident a red card is (should be) justified. Equally so if you prevent a clear goal by accident

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    Chelsea official twitter announcement of tonight's team:

    This is the team that Maurizio Sarri has chosen for this evening's game!
    Sort of sounds like they are distancing themselves from it/the manager.

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    Starting Kovacic and Barkley. Probably going to have an aneurysm come the 72nd minute

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    Nah, he'll just tell them to swap positions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mugbull View Post
    I mean I agree, if you fuck someone up by accident a red card is (should be) justified. Equally so if you prevent a clear goal by accident

    No, because you are only able to 'fuck someone up by accident' if you are playing recklessly. You can prevent playing recklessly.

    Whereas - the literally only way you can prevent a goal 'by accident' in an illegal way is by happening to have an arm in the way. You cannot conceivably control where your arms are or be expected to run around with them behind your back all the time like a penguin - as compared to how you launch yourself into a tackle, for instance which you can indeed control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazuuurk View Post
    No, because you are only able to 'fuck someone up by accident' if you are playing recklessly. You can prevent playing recklessly.
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    That's not true, innocuous tackles can and do cause bad injuries.

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    Of course. But you can still control how violently you play in general. A lot of the time when people launch themselves into late tackles that end up injuring someone, really they should have just realised they were too late into the situation and have abstained from doing the tackle in the first place.

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    Fucking hell.

    That sounds like a rival to the Antti Niemi TalkSport(?) call.

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    Away goals should be squared.

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    Nah, multiplied by xG.

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    Chelsea just got a two window transfer ban.

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    Blessed relief tbh, as long as it doesn't apply to managers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Blessed relief tbh, as long as it doesn't apply to managers.
    It should, otherwise they would just offer players new contracts as staff, and do transfer business that way

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    Do they still have 178 players on loan they can recall?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel View Post
    It should, otherwise they would just offer players new contracts as staff, and do transfer business that way
    This is the thickest thing I’ve seen in quite some time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    This is the thickest thing I’ve seen in quite some time.
    Facts.

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    Was pretty obvious it would happen. You’d think they’d start to give younger players a chance now. On second thoughts...

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    I disagree that sending young players out on loan in mass is a bad move. If your good enough, you end up like Lukaku, if not you end up like Mceachran and if your in between, your a van Aanholt

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