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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    Ah Izzy. I remember her now. She looked like a total filthbag too.
    Dr K
    Izzy was so naughty looking.
    Cannie remember her having an affair with dr karl tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    I finished Wayward Pines, thankfully. I can't believe there's a third season coming.


    I assumed it was done with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    Good God, yes.

    It's a decent little show on the whole though, I watched it all over the course of a couple of nights I think. Billy Bob is (predictably) great in it.

    There's just always something about Amazon Originals though, don't you think? They never seem quite as slick or as well produced as their Netflix counter parts. I can't quite explain it, but they always leave me with that feeling that I'm not watching "proper" tele, if that makes sense.
    Yeah, it does, although I say that having not seen that many of them. Goliath was a case in point though, it looked as though it was going to be a top quality production but by the end had fallen someway short in terms of both production values and writing.

    Still, I quite enjoyed it mind. Billy Bob was top notch, despite probably phoning it in.

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    Homeland (season 6) is back sooner than expected. Episode 1 available now.

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    I've started The Man In The High Castle.
    I'm a twit

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    Sherlock is getting universally panned then. It's understandably been going downhill since day one but I still thought it was better than most things on TV.

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    Caught up with 2016 Wipe. Probably Charlie's best. If only they let him do more Gameswipe.

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    Agreed. He nailed it. The only shit bit was cunk explaining the end of days.

    It did remind me that I'm seeing Cox live in a few weeks talking about big data. I treat the missus well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    Sherlock is getting universally panned then. It's understandably been going downhill since day one but I still thought it was better than most things on TV.
    It was a bit crap.

    I've liked the lot so far as well although the one off before this was merely decent.

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    It was okay, but it's not as good as it was. The whole point of Sherlock is that he's supposed to solve complicated, strange, supposedly-unsolvable crimes in a brilliantly clever fashion. They have fantastic source material in the original stories and novels, and almost everything therein, especially in the short stories, is geared towards his solving of the crime. There's very little happens that doesn't have a material impact on his deductions and how he ultimately solves the case. That's the whole point.

    The non-crime solving areas they're fleshing out massively in the TV series (e.g. John's marriage to Mary, Mycroft as a central character etc.) are, broadly speaking, superfluous in the context of what Sherlock Holmes is supposed to be about. They've basically moved it to a point where the actual solving of the crime is barely the central point of the episode any more.

    I think they've just bought into the hype far too much. They really think they're somehow 'improving' the originals, and you get the sense that the need to actually solve a crime as part of the episode is almost an inconvenience. Take last night - solves the 'murder' within about fifteen minutes, solves the Six Napoleons aspect (from the original ACD story) by about half-way, and then the rest of the episode is spent indulging this borderline-ludicrous Mary Watson angle. At least they've killed her off, but even that was just stupid in its execution.

    It's actually quite annoying, because the raw components are still there for it to be a really great show. As it is, you couldn't exactly complain if it was quietly shelved after this series is finished. If they do another series after this, they might actually destroy it and it probably doesn't deserve that.

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    Well whatever about the double episode of Brooklyn Nine Nine (had some good bits), dafuq was that ending?

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    End of High Castle.

    Toggle Spoiler

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    Season 1 or 2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    Well whatever about the double episode of Brooklyn Nine Nine (had some good bits), dafuq was that ending?
    You know what.... I think it's done. I was prepared to forgive a few slow episodes, but the last 5 have raised about 3 lols between them. It needs to do some serious work to save this season.

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    None of those 20 episode comedies should ever go past 3 seasons. It's always downhill from there.

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    Parks and Rec being the obvious exception. I'm only mid-way through the third season of Brooklyn 99, when is it that it starts to noticeably go downhill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Shearer The 2nd View Post
    Parks and Rec being the obvious exception. I'm only mid-way through the third season of Brooklyn 99, when is it that it starts to noticeably go downhill?
    In that it started terrible and stayed that way? I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Shearer The 2nd View Post
    Parks and Rec being the obvious exception. I'm only mid-way through the third season of Brooklyn 99, when is it that it starts to noticeably go downhill?
    4th series, most of it. Though I quite liked the Florida bits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    In that it started terrible and stayed that way? I guess.

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    Don't worry, he's a souless gimp.

    He can have the first season (although I still quite like it) but after that it's stunning.

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    You're still watching Archer.

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    Which, bar the Vice season, is amazing.

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    Yeah, that bit where he shouts LANNNNA just cracks me up every time. What a hoot.

    edit: Oh man, just remembered 'That's how you get ants'. I think the 78th time he said it was just about the best delivery of a line since Shakespeare.

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    Archer is amazing, Phonics.

    But, if you don't care for that kind of humour, you're simply missing out.
    Bet you don't like Rick & Morty either (thought that said my lass loves archer but hates Rick & Morty, so I guess it's possible).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    Which, bar the Vice season, is amazing.
    Apparently the new season is going to be "In Archers head" as he's in a coma and be a bit crazy. Not sure how chuffed I am about that but let's see. Basically, I think they feel they can't keep up his arsehole-ness if he actually ends up having a proper relationship with Lana, so I think they feel they need to sort of reset the series.

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    I gave up on Brooklyn 99 after the first season.

    Not a fan of those slapstick shows in self contained episodes with no overarching storyline.

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    Rick & Morty, Bobs Burgers, that shitty one about a horse.

    They're all wank.

    Just remembered that effing terrible one that is set inside a national park. They're all so, so bad.

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    Each to their own.

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    I agree with phonics.

    Add Family Guy, American Shitgash and South Park to the list too.
    I'm a twit

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    Family Guy and American Dad you can have.

    South Park is a work of art.

    You and Phonics hate them all purely because of 'Cartoons are for kids lol' probably.

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    I agree with Baz on American Dad and South Park. Though the former is more just harmlessely nondescript as opposed to utter dross.

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    South Park was funny, but I don't know if that's because it's gone bad (like The Simpsons) or I've grown out of it.

    The film was hilarious when it came out on DVD but I've not watched it since, and fear it may not live up to the memory.

    It's nothing to do with them being cartoons, only aside from "not funny" it's the only thing that links them.
    I'm a twit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazuuurk View Post
    Each to their own.
    Exactly. People in liking different things shocker!

    P.s Adamski is wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    South Park was funny, but I don't know if that's because it's gone bad (like The Simpsons) or I've grown out of it.

    The film was hilarious when it came out on DVD but I've not watched it since, and fear it may not live up to the memory.

    It's nothing to do with them being cartoons, only aside from "not funny" it's the only thing that links them.
    Fair play.

    I assumed you hadn't given any of them a chance and were purely judging them for being animated.

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    I like most of these animated shows being mentioned but Bojack Horseman is on another level. It's art. It's one if the best things I've ever seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Yeah, that bit where he shouts LANNNNA just cracks me up every time. What a hoot.

    edit: Oh man, just remembered 'That's how you get ants'. I think the 78th time he said it was just about the best delivery of a line since Shakespeare.
    You must have watched quite a bit of it considering how much you hated it.

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    Doesn't Phonics like anime?

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    You must have watched quite a bit of it considering how much you hated it.
    Yep, hence the 'still' in the original post and as I said above it, no 20 episode comedy should be going above 3 seasons.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Doesn't Phonics like anime?
    Like 4 of them because they're badass. I'm being quite reasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    You must have watched quite a bit of it considering how much you hated it.
    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    The Burgers one. Archer was quite good until it jumped the shark around the Archer Vice period.
    So he enjoyed 4 seasons.

    It also got a lot better after the Vice season.

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    Archer has never done a twenty episode season, and your proselytising for Person of Interest makes this whole conversation laughable, Phonics.

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    5 episodes in to the man in the high castle and seriously bored. Is it worth continuing? (No spoilers)
    I'm a twit

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    I started watching The Expanse a couple of nights ago and I've only got three episodes left. Granted, it's only a ten episode season and they aren't aren't particularly long episodes. It's pretty great though. I haven't read any of the books it's apparently based on, but the world they're building up seems really cool and like it has a lot of legs.

    I also finished The Path over the Christmas/New Year period and thought it was quite good too, interesting premise. It sets up really nicely for the second season too, which is only a couple of week away I believe. My only issue is that Aaron Paul is almost completely typecast in the role of Jesse Pinkman for me, to the point where seeing him act like a legitimate, responsible, grown up man with a family and shit is strange. That's my own problem though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    5 episodes in to the man in the high castle and seriously bored. Is it worth continuing? (No spoilers)
    The first season is definitely slower and then it picks up a bit towards the end. The second season is better I would say, but it never completely picks up the pace. It's a very slow mover. Hard to say whether you should stick with it or not. I think the main draw to me is just that it looks nice and I find the whole "what if the Nazi's had won?" thing to be a really interesting set-up.

    I can definitely say that if there is a season three (and I assume there will be) I will watch it, but I no longer care at all what goes on with any of the three main characters. Julianna, Joe and the guy with the glasses (such a boring bastard I've totally forgotten his name), they're arguably the three dullest characters in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    On a different topic: anyone watched The Expanse?
    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    I started watching The Expanse a couple of nights ago and I've only got three episodes left. Granted, it's only a ten episode season and they aren't aren't particularly long episodes. It's pretty great though. I haven't read any of the books it's apparently based on, but the world they're building up seems really cool and like it has a lot of legs.
    I watched The Expanse a while back and rather enjoyed it, although it wasn't really good enough to warrant a recommendation. I'll be all over a second season whenever it appears though, because it left enough unanswered and did it well enough that I want to know where they're going with it.

    There are massive narrative and plot holes but I haven't read the source material, which I didn't know existed until these posts, so I'll give the benefit of the doubt that there's some Polyfilla handy.

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    My final Netflix binge over Xmas was on Travelers - it's pretty good, although there are some fairly honking great paradoxes in it. It's to do with time travel, so you have to let that go if you want to get into it, as anything involving that always turns out to be total bobbins if you look at it in too much detail.

    Nice premise and some interesting story lines developing though.

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    I'm currently going through all the Black Mirror episodes, which are all more or less brilliant to be honest.

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    Just finished High Castle. Definitely worth sticking with.

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    Have made it three eps into High Castle. Think Frank annoys me more than Juliana.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mo View Post
    Have made it three eps into High Castle. Think Frank annoys me more than Juliana.
    Well I'd love to be able to tell you different, but that's not going to change.

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    A six episode second season of Letterkenny has been released all at once. That's a lovely surprise on my first time visiting BtN in a week.

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