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    Frank Sobotka was an absolutely brilliant character. I enjoyed season two way more on repeat viewings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Frank Sobotka was an absolutely brilliant character. I enjoyed season two way more on repeat viewings.
    Agreed. Originally I found it difficult to really get into as it was the first season I watched, back when BB2 were running it late at night 7 or 8 years back now I think, I saw a couple of episodes and decided to buy up the box sets as a result. Season 1 was so good though, that season 2 felt a bit unimpressive given that I'd spoiled a couple of plot points for myself.

    When watching back S1-5 (I've now done this a good 5 or 6 times which is ludicrous really) it stands out as probably the most personable of all the seasons, the one that illicits the most sympathy and the least satisfaction in the end (which is a good thing in the world of The Wire as far as I'm concerned).

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Merse View Post
    Agreed. Originally I found it difficult to really get into as it was the first season I watched, back when BB2 were running it late at night 7 or 8 years back now I think, I saw a couple of episodes and decided to buy up the box sets as a result. Season 1 was so good though, that season 2 felt a bit unimpressive given that I'd spoiled a couple of plot points for myself.

    When watching back S1-5 (I've now done this a good 5 or 6 times which is ludicrous really) it stands out as probably the most personable of all the seasons, the one that illicits the most sympathy and the least satisfaction in the end (which is a good thing in the world of The Wire as far as I'm concerned).
    I think 4 trumps it in that department but yeah I broadly agree. Seeing what became of the docks and some of the characters in later seasons (that lad with the beard having a cameo as a homeless in S5) gives it added pathos on repeat viewings.

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    S2 Crew is growing!

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    I've only ever done one run through it but after the initial thing of it giving some of the season 1 characters less focus than I expected I really enjoyed it.

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    I've gone down the Youtube rabbit hole now. Can't stop watching Wire videos.

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    I did that yesterday! About two hours of various compilations!

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    Wire video.

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    That's the business, Shindig. Put a spoilery video in the thread when about three people have said they're watching for the first time.

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    Aye, thankfully I've seen that season now but it's a fucking stupid video to post without spoilers.

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    Just to interrupt The Wire wanking, I'm 9 episodes into Better Call Saul and really enjoying it. Probably better than some seasons of Breaking Bad. (Although BB season 1 is GOAT)

    Just got season two ready too, so can continue my binge inbetween the football.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    That's the business, Shindig. Put a spoilery video in the thread when about three people have said they're watching for the first time.
    Fuck that noise. If spoilers hamper your enjoyment of a decade's old television, you're the kind of person who doesn't like to be told it gets dark at night.

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    Well it can only take away from the experience to be fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    Fuck that noise. If spoilers hamper your enjoyment of a decade's old television, you're the kind of person who doesn't like to be told it gets dark at night.
    Why does the age of the series matter? If you're watching it through for the first time of course knowing what's going to happen will change the way you see it and how much you enjoy it.

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    I dunno, it happens with me and games all the time. I'm more about how they arrived at that point, rather than the point itself.

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    Which is fine, but some people like to go in blind and be surprised. Think of it another way, if you'd just posted the title of that video in plain text would you be arguing with anyone asking you to spoiler it?

    A comparison to gaming is just laughable, if entirely predictable.

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    Glad it's not just be being over sensitive. I thought that was a dickhead move too.

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    Spoilers, John has a superiority complex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    I dunno, it happens with me and games all the time. I'm more about how they arrived at that point, rather than the point itself.
    I understand the argument that it is about the journey rather than the destination, but it isn't fair to impose that on people who don't agree. You can't get pissy if someone makes a
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    joke on some tv show, but to post videos like that in this thread is a bit out of order.

    Also video games aren't a fair comparison because the journey is a lot more important than the outcome in that medium compared to others because

    a) You actually do shit in video games
    b) Writing in video games is nearly always shit

    First you insult Stewart Lee, now this spoiler business. You're on very thin ice, mister!!

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    I accept I dropped a bollock but I've definitely had gaming experiences (I'm looking at you, Metal Gear Solid V) where the big plot twist has been spoiled beforehand. I wasn't miffed by it but more thinking, "Right. How? Why?" Hell, one day I'll pick up Game of Thrones and the cackling hags at work have already given me a rundown through their conversations. I'm not putting up a barrier for that.

    Although this is a forum where the facility is there to hide it. I got carried away. The Wire is mint.

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    So you've been annoyed at something being spoiled for you so it's okay if you spoil stuff for other people?

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    Very big of you @Shindig. I'm lucky in that I don't really remember spoilers unless I've actually started watching something. The only thing I know about GoT is something to do with some bloke called John Snow. Everything else washes over me. And a lot of my mates have confessed that they're starting to think it is a bit crap really, that even they can't remember who half of the characters are and that they're just watching out of habit now. Feel vindicated in immediately dismissing it as fantasy wank with some elves and fairies and shit. Not arsed mate.

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    I dismissed GoT as that too. No one I know who watches seems to have come round to admitting it's a bit crap yet though. Everyone still seems to be preaching the GoT gospel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by igor_balis View Post
    Also video games aren't a fair comparison because the journey is a lot more important than the outcome in that medium compared to others because

    a) You actually do shit in video games
    b) Writing in video games is nearly always shit
    Nonsense. You can't pick and choose what you think it's acceptable to spoil and what you don't.

    I mean obviously you can but it makes you a shitbag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Nonsense. You can't pick and choose what you think it's acceptable to spoil and what you don't.

    I mean obviously you can but it makes you a shitbag.
    no no i wouldn't spoil a video game either, though i am a shitbag.

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    I also spoiled Our Kind of Traitor for myself because I wanted to see how many pages I had left. It still hit me when I read through it with the context onboard.

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    That looks class.

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    It will probably shit the bed midway through the second season though, fucking JJ Abrams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    I dismissed GoT as that too. No one I know who watches seems to have come round to admitting it's a bit crap yet though. Everyone still seems to be preaching the GoT gospel.
    It is a bit crap.

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    The problem is I'm getting it all from the perspective of annoying married women. "OOOH, I HOPE THAT CHARACTER I LIKE ISN'T KILLED. HE'S MY FAVOURITE! THAT WOMAN WITH THE BOOBS HAS BOOBS!"

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    Re-watching some old South Park episodes and they pretty much predicted Subway Jared and his life:



    Last year he was sentenced to 15 years for child porn and travelling to pay for sex with minors.

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    5 minutes into the new season of OITNB and I hate Piper more than ever. Christ she's such a cunt.

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    I really am struggling to immerse myself in either Deadwood Peaky Blinders due to the hamminess of the former and the crap accents in the latter.

    Hence, I'm re-watching Angry Boys

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    Stuck the new Anna Torv thing on, what is supposed to be a fairly serious 'political thriller'. Ten minutes in and Dewey fucking Crowe has turned up as a transsexual bugging the phones of journalists. Would have been over the top strange if they'd done it on Fringe.

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    I caught an episode of Angie Tribeca while skimming channels the other day. It's surprisingly good but I'm not sure I could stand watching more than an episode at a time. They fit more jokes into 20 minutes than Judd Apatows entire filmography which is both a good and a bad thing, there are loads of things that don't hit but much like a Tim Vine stand-up routine they've got 2 more jokes before you've even started to think 'That wasn't funny'.

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    DRAMA.

    In fairness, it seems like an accomplished political drama outside of that stuff. It's a lot like how Floyd, I think it was, described 'The Code'. All the polish of a top American drama with none of the sark.

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    Secret City, the thing I mentioned above, is actually very good. Dan Wyllie's bulldog mouth is a constant source of irritation, but other than that it's excellent. Big hit in Australia, @elth, @ItalAussie ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    I caught an episode of Angie Tribeca while skimming channels the other day. It's surprisingly good but I'm not sure I could stand watching more than an episode at a time.
    This is exactly right. It's a scattergun approach, but there's enough hits to outweight the misses.

    You have to give it full concentration though, so it's definitely one episode at a time.

    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    Secret City, the thing I mentioned above, is actually very good. Dan Wyllie's bulldog mouth is a constant source of irritation, but other than that it's excellent. Big hit in Australia, @elth, @ItalAussie ?
    I haven't heard of it, but I don't watch a huge amount of TV. I'd definitely give it a look though.

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    Bloodline was slow going to start but really started picking up, I'm at episode 8 now and have an urge to binge the rest over the weekend. Ben Mendelsohn goes from sympathetic to threatening in the blink of an eye, he's so good but I assume he's going to be killed by the rest of the family because he's started turning the screw on all of them. I noticed he had a lisp a few episodes in and it's all I hear when he speaks now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItalAussie View Post
    I haven't heard of it, but I don't watch a huge amount of TV. I'd definitely give it a look though.
    It's a limited run thing with the last episode coming out this weekend, I think. It's very bizness, but I've enjoyed it.



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    Does anyone on here watch 12 Monkeys? It's always been silly but it's getting ridiculous now. Still enjoying it though.

    When I watched Fringe I tried my hardest to fancy Olivia but it was impossible. She's not attractive in the slightest. Same with Scully in X-Files. I definitely fancy Dr Railly though; she looks a bit like Natasha Bedingfield too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    Does anyone on here watch 12 Monkeys? It's always been silly but it's getting ridiculous now. Still enjoying it though.

    When I watched Fringe I tried my hardest to fancy Olivia but it was impossible. She's not attractive in the slightest. Same with Scully in X-Files. I definitely fancy Dr Railly though; she looks a bit like Natasha Bedingfield too.
    I've been watching it, I really like the first season a lot but it just keeps getting worse.

    This season has been turd, I've been struggling to actually watch it. Railly is indeed hot as hell though.

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    Just started the penultimate episode of season 3 of The Wire.

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    Fuuuuuck.

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    Lucky prick.

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