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    The trailer for series 2 Picard is pure cringe stuff.

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    Not incredibly surprised, it was really struggling first season round.

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    Never saw it but heard it tarnished his legacy.

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    The two new ones have been dirt for the most part. I wish I could hold our more hope of Strange New Worlds being better.

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    Black to Front in full flow on Channel 4. Get involved.

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    This is a genuine question, but per % of the population (it's about 3%, no?), are black people actually under-represented on tv? I can think of some demographics that absolutely must be, but I'd be surprised if that's definitely one of them.

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    They were underrepresented, but that has been addressed and then some.

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    They’ll be well over represented once you’re not allowed to hire anyone else anyway. Black bond my sack.

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    Quincy making best friends all over the place lately


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    Watching 9 11 Life Under Attack on ITV hub.

    It is both harrowing and amazing. The program takes you through the day from first thing in the morning. It really shows the utter chaos and how little they knew what was going on.

    And a special mench for the video showing the 2nd plane hitting. Fucking horrific.

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    Paul Rudd is the type of good bloke I aspire to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dquincy View Post
    Watching 9 11 Life Under Attack on ITV hub.

    It is both harrowing and amazing. The program takes you through the day from first thing in the morning. It really shows the utter chaos and how little they knew what was going on.

    And a special mench for the video showing the 2nd plane hitting. Fucking horrific.
    Strongly recommend "102 Minutes That Changed America" if you haven't seen it. Annoyingly the one on Channel 4 on Demand has been updated with interviews which ruins it imo.

    I'm sure you can find the original 2008 version though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dquincy View Post
    Watching 9 11 Life Under Attack on ITV hub.

    It is both harrowing and amazing. The program takes you through the day from first thing in the morning. It really shows the utter chaos and how little they knew what was going on.

    And a special mench for the video showing the 2nd plane hitting. Fucking horrific.
    I watched a thing about the falling man and a journalist trying to find out who he was last night, it was interesting. Might give Life Under Attack and Surviving 9/11 (the Beeb's offering) a watch.

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    Oh and I also watched this, https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4917224...=nm_flmg_act_6 which was indescribably bad. The elevator scene is an all time classic.

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    Yeah, tomorrow might involve me looking at those. And 102 Minutes that Changed America. And then maybe Small Change for some light relief.

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    Is the Nic Cage one any good? The 'best' 9/11 story is Ric Rescorla being an absolute machine

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    I thought the Nic Cage one was pretty shit too, albeit not as bad as Sheen's effort.

    Worth on Netflix now is supposedly quite good, about the financial side of things afterwards.

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    Also, is there a good website that gives one a weekly heads up about what's coming onto tv and streaming services? Sky is brilliant, but I now have so many options it's hard to keep up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Strongly recommend "102 Minutes That Changed America" if you haven't seen it. Annoyingly the one on Channel 4 on Demand has been updated with interviews which ruins it imo.

    I'm sure you can find the original 2008 version though.
    Think I've seen that one. Thought it was very good from memory. The one I watched tonight seemed to have a few clips that I've never seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    I watched a thing about the falling man and a journalist trying to find out who he was last night, it was interesting. Might give Life Under Attack and Surviving 9/11 (the Beeb's offering) a watch.
    Definitely give it a watch. It includes the actual recordings from the various air traffic control centres as it all unfolds and the planes start to disappear off the radars. It adds to the realness of it all and the utter confusion, understandably.

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    That Charlie Sheen one

    Have been tempted to watch the Nicolas Cage one, but he's not really going to top Con Air for aeroplane themed disaster movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dquincy View Post
    Definitely give it a watch. It includes the actual recordings from the various air traffic control centres as it all unfolds and the planes start to disappear off the radars. It adds to the realness of it all and the utter confusion, understandably.
    Watching it now, it's absolutely fascinating. Very reminiscent of 102 minutes.

    Also answered a question I had about whether anyone thought the towers would fall having been hit - "I'm an architect, it'll be almost impossible to knock that building over", can be heard in one of the clips.

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    I’m rewatching The Wire. Crazy seeing one of the biggest actors on the planet in here.

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    I never knew whether he was brilliant in it, or just a straight-played version of Johnson from Peep Show. Probably a bit of both.

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    Yeah, Stringer just struck me as a fairly boring character. At least compared to the rest of the cast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Watching it now, it's absolutely fascinating. Very reminiscent of 102 minutes.

    Also answered a question I had about whether anyone thought the towers would fall having been hit - "I'm an architect, it'll be almost impossible to knock that building over", can be heard in one of the clips.
    This was the flawed conventional wisdom at the time. Again, Rescorla called it early and saved thousands of people due to ignoring the Port Authority telling everyone to stay put: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Rescorla

    Extremely long but good read: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...eroes-are-dead
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    Vigil is getting worse with each episode.

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    As I suspected, going a bit ludicrous and the pacing being reliant on flashbacks isn't ideal either.

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    Nah, it's still good. If it doesn't end in all out nuclear war I'm gonna be disappointed though.

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    I mean, it's on BBC, it's never gonna be that good. Just like Line of Duty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manc View Post
    Vigil is getting worse with each episode.
    Was it the girl on girl kissing that offended you?

    I liked it, and that Suranne Jones is tasty. I'm no dentist but I'd give her a filling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    Is the Nic Cage one any good? The 'best' 9/11 story is Ric Rescorla being an absolute machine
    Have you ever seen this footage? You wot MATE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    I mean, it's on BBC, it's never gonna be that good. Just like Line of Duty.

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    Line of Duty was excellent for a long time, the last series was a bit wobbly but I think it could be rescued.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dquincy View Post
    Was it the girl on girl kissing that offended you?

    I liked it, and that Suranne Jones is tasty. I'm no dentist but I'd give her a filling.
    It is just dragging on, I think as soon as they changed the timescale from 3 days to 3 weeks it was always in danger of getting stale. There is a lot of nonsense going on, and I couldn't care less if Suranne Jones was fingerblasting Rose Leslie I just want a better put together story.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Have you ever seen this footage? You wot MATE.
    Man is the ultimate don. Apparently he used to do evacuation drills regularly at the WTC and pissed on all the execs chips by interrupting their bollocks. Mel Gibson will have been pissing blood when he omitted him from the film adaptation of the book We Were Soldiers, I mean why wouldn't you want the guy on the cover who was nicknamed 'Hardcore' in a war film? Oh yeah cos Mel hates the English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post

    Man is the ultimate don. Apparently he used to do evacuation drills regularly at the WTC and pissed on all the execs chips by interrupting their bollocks. Mel Gibson will have been pissing blood when he omitted him from the film adaptation of the book We Were Soldiers, I mean why wouldn't you want the guy on the cover who was nicknamed 'Hardcore' in a war film? Oh yeah cos Mel hates the English.
    Wasn't the death count for the company he worked for literally 0?

    He was also pretty much spot on about Vietnam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Nah, it's still good. If it doesn't end in all out nuclear war I'm gonna be disappointed though.
    Aye, it's still alright although I struggle with Captain Johnson. Is that guy actually a decent actor or is he just Johnson in everything? Seems to me it might be the latter.

    In terms of the ending, yeah, I'm hoping for something along the lines of the ending of Takeshi Miike's Dead or Alive, but I'm doubtful.

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    I've seen him be alright as not Johnson. He's probably just a victim of having played Johnson so brilliantly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Arne View Post
    Wasn't the death count for the company he worked for literally 0?

    He was also pretty much spot on about Vietnam.
    Something like 11 (including him) out of over 2700.

    There is a good quote from his best mate who served with him about why he went back in and his wife's grief (they met and married later in life):

    “What she doesn’t understand is that she knew him for four or five years. She knew a sixty-two-year-old man with cancer. I knew him as a hundred-and-eighty-pound, six-foot-one piece of human machinery that would not quit, that did not know defeat, that would not back off one inch. In the middle of the greatest battle of Vietnam, he was singing to the troops, saying we’re going to rip them a new asshole, when everyone else was worrying about dying. If he had come out of that building and someone died who he hadn’t tried to save, he would have had to commit suicide."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    This was the flawed conventional wisdom at the time. Again, Rescorla called it early and saved thousands of people due to ignoring the Port Authority telling everyone to stay put: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Rescorla

    Extremely long but good read: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...eroes-are-dead
    Good reads, thanks. Never knew about him.

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    Reservation Dogs is the best show so far this year.


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    Looks absolutely terrible.

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    That Wacky Tahiti bloke (I know that's not his name but it bloody should be) has to be in nonce territory. Everything he does involves kids.

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    After Michael k Williams died I started a The Wire rewatch. Got up to season 3 and was thinking about it.

    The whole Hamsterdam storyline in The Wire is presented as a massive success story but if you look at it. Bunny legalises the entire drug trade and in return he gets… a 4% drop in rape, robbery and assaults in comparison to when there was heroin and cocaine dealers on every corner.

    It seems a pretty bad return if you legalise but not tax the drug industry and all you get is 96 rapes,robberies and assaults instead of 100.

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    Why does Young Rock open with actual Rock running for president? That doesn't need to exist at all to tell the story of young Rock, is he testing the water and actually going to do it?

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    Vigil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Why does Young Rock open with actual Rock running for president? That doesn't need to exist at all to tell the story of young Rock, is he testing the water and actually going to do it?
    Yes.

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    Well, that would be absolutely brilliant.

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    I stuck on the previously unknown Good Girls while browsing Netflix yesterday. It’s pretty shit but the main characters tits are a joy to behold.

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    Another mixed episode for Vigil, going to finish over the top but hopefully sticks the landing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    I stuck on the previously unknown Good Girls while browsing Netflix yesterday. It’s pretty shit but the main characters tits are a joy to behold.
    You'll love Mad Men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernanke View Post
    Reservation Dogs is the best show so far this year.

    Just finished watching it all. It's brilliant.

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