It also doesn't hold if you continue to be as shit as you've been this season.
It also doesn't hold if you continue to be as shit as you've been this season.
As I've said I don't think the circumstances are at all the same this time. The club has moved on quite a lot from the 'Must win everything every year' era.Originally Posted by Toby
How bad would it have to get (off and on the pitch) for him to be sacked then?
That seems like a nice thought rather than anything backed up by what they've actually done/been doing. Roberto di Matteo would have lasted longer were it an era ushered in by the Champions League win.
Unless you're suggesting it's a collective cringe at the memory of hiring Rafa Benitez, in which case, yeah, maybe.
If we are still 16th at Christmas then it gets tricky I suppose.
4 points from 8 games bad.
Both, really. Where have I went wrong?
I'm not writing a fucking dissertation on him here, I just wanted the short version
The gist of it is that he won the old First Division (top flight) with Derby County, then did the same with Nottingham Forest as well as winning the European Cup two years in a row.I'm not writing a fucking dissertation on him here
He also had a spell at Leeds before the Forest job, which would be a bit like Mourinho joining Arsenal as he had publicly criticised them a lot while at his previous clubs. That's the bit the Damned United covers - it's a good film and well worth seeing if you haven't.
I've always liked that one as a summing up. There are many out there though.
That Trevor Francis section is eerily similar to Mourinho. Then he launches into a scathing criticism of MOTD's editorial values.
Cheers Tobes
With Forest the European Cup came two years after promotion as well, didn't he? Wasn't it something daft like Division 2/promotion followed by winning Division 1 straight away and then European Cup the year after that?
Clough was such a legend.
Come on over Jose. There's a new, more apt home for your paranoia.
Maz is the unfortunate foreigner that Sky has produced who knows nothing about British football apart from that it started on 1992 and that they are entitled to an all knowing opinion because they watch the scum every super Sunday.
Whereas you're the zero attention span twat who gets the histrionic 'HAHAHAHA' rubbish on the go if a game isn't well on its way to the expected result within about five minutes.
See also: Zim.
Zim; another fallen hero. RIP sweet prince.
The Damned United is great.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34752317
I love the fact that he even referenced Wenger in that. The man's completely obsessed.
At least him and Wenger are agreeing with each other for once.
I presume Big John Terry was taking the half time team talk.
"When's the next couples night out..."
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Pretty happy with Chelsea performance today. Results will soon show up. So as long we are on champions, all good in tha hood!
Saint supports Chelsea?
'we'?
It seems my ban made you guys forget my Chelsea and Mourinho love.
I certainly remember the Mourinho love, but I only remember 'Brann Champion!'
I remember Saint as a Chelsea fan, if only because he's probably the only non-United-supporting Norwegian on the planet.
Yes, there are many Norwegian supporters but also Liverpool. Arsenal is also a lot. West ham and spurs got also their share. City has a few but is increasing. The big surprise is that Leeds is still challenging Liverpool and ManU but decreasing rapidly.
The Oljefondet should have invested in United. Bonkers Scandi owners would be awesome.
How the hell you know about the Oljefondet?
It's only the largest pension fund in the world.
Not many know about it...which means you didn't answer the question.
I'm interested in the capital markets (I studied finance and economics in school), and it's a huge (~$800bn) player in the capital markets, so the name comes up from time to time.
I could have sworn Saint used to be a Liverpool fan who had put that on hold while Benitez was in charge.
Yeah, I very much recall him being a Liverpool fan, of sorts.
I was when I was a kid but as you grow older you get wiser.
Must add that this Liverpool phase was way before TD which means you guys just got lucky on this.
Pleae please please please please.Chelsea are reportedly considering the shock appointment of Juande Ramos if the club do sack Jose Mourinho, according to The Times.
Hopefully they're just putting out crafty press releases to remind Toby and friends why sacking him isn't the answer. Either that or Abramovich has given each of his aides a different shit manager's name to see who is leaky.
Staggeringly, I reckon Juande Ramos would top the appointment of Avram Grant.
What are Christian Gross and Jacques Santini up to these days?
Never fear, when Mourinho quits after relegation they can just hire Neil Warnock to bring them back up, thereby initiating the alternate reality timeline that could have begun in 1991.
Chelsea would finish the season with more points if they got Juande Ramos than if they kept Mourinho, almost by definition. You can argue that Mourinho would be the more long-term option, but Mourinho destroys his teams in the long-term, so I'm not convinced by that one.
Don't know. I heard he once got 2 points from 8 games.
This news deserves a
The 'Mourinho destroys his teams long term' line is one of the most unsubstantiated lines going in all of football - he's never been anywhere long enough for us to know.
He destroys his relationships with his players, that's very substantiated.
Not sure about that...
Left Porto and the players at the very least liked him; lots followed him.
Left Chelsea when they all loved him (players fawning over him in texts after he was gone) but Roman got bored.
Left Inter when they loved him and Materazzi was seen hugging him while crying.
Left Real and pissed off everyone - players, fans and media.
Came back to Chelsea and was adored by waiting fans and players.
He left the first 3 on legitimate high notes, mind.
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