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    CM Punk's run's going to be real weird. He either has a moment in the sun or he hangs around as a draw for Dana until one gets pissed off at the other.

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    @John, what did you make of Overeem's performance?

    I thought he looked good with his first takedown but after that he seemed to fall apart. Swinging like he was drunk and actually running away several times. Pis he a bit of a nutcase or something, because even the commentators seemed surprised.

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    Did you watch Overeems interview after the fight? He was adamant there was a tap out from Stipe when he got the choke on him. So Rogan asked them to play the replay. Not a tap in sight

    To be fair to Overeem, this was a few seconds after they had to drag him back to his feet. So he probably wasn't all there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7om View Post
    @John, what did you make of Overeem's performance?

    I thought he looked good with his first takedown but after that he seemed to fall apart. Swinging like he was drunk and actually running away several times. Pis he a bit of a nutcase or something, because even the commentators seemed surprised.
    He has an atrocious chin and was fighting a heavy hitter, it's no surprise that he turned tail the minute it looked like there might be an exchange.

    Just as Overeem was sinking the choke in Miocic tries to grab his arm, misses, then grabs it properly. Presumably that's where Overeem felt a tap.

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    Pretty shite event as expected. The heavyweights are fucking awful.

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    Can somebody with a bit more knowledge of MMA tell me why in this instance Menjivar didn't just drop on his back as hard as possible?

    I get not wanting to give your opponent your back on the floor, but surely that's preferable to just being chocked out whilst standing?


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    Quote Originally Posted by John Arne View Post
    Can somebody with a bit more knowledge of MMA tell me why in this instance Menjivar didn't just drop on his back as hard as possible?

    I get not wanting to give your opponent your back on the floor, but surely that's preferable to just being chocked out whilst standing?

    Missed this post before. It's easier to escape that choke from a standing position than from on your back, particularly when your opponent already has a body triangle in place, but when it's in as deep as that one is when he taps you're done either way.

    If he throws himself to the ground there best case scenario is Faber loses his grip on his own arm and quickly regains it in a more dominant position. Worst case scenario is the momentum drives Faber's arm into his eosophagus and does some genuine harm.

    There was probably a point earlier in the sequence where just dropping to his back would have been the right move. As you say though, he wouldn't want to give up his back on the mat and completed standing submissions are rare enough that I doubt they're a real concern until you're in one.

    Is that the video you're watching or just the only one you could find to depict the fight? I don't have a clear recollection of that fight and I'd like to watch the events leading up to that sub.

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    [gyfcat]LiveLastingFoxterrier[/gyfcat]

    So fucking good.

    Also, lol at him kicking Edmond. I'm sure most people would love to do that, he's such a fucking cunt.

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    Here's why he booted Edmond.


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    He's still a prick and he should still have been binned. Paul Daley was cut and banned for life for basically the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    He's still a prick and he should still have been binned. Paul Daley was cut and banned for life for basically the same thing.
    Oh I agree.

    Mental that he wont be punished at all.

    Apparently Conor will be facing Eddie Alvarez at 205.

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    I called that one weeks ago. Eddie Alvarez should really take his head clean off, but after that Diaz fight I'll rule nothing out.

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    Apparently Cyborg (female) has to cut another 24 pounds before her weigh in which is on Friday.

    That seems fucking mental.

    Clearly she needs to hire a better nutritionist.

    "In this camp, my nutrition coach, he starts giving to me birth control, and I never take this in my life, and I take this three months, every day," Justino said. "My coach says it will be good for me, I believe in him, and, man I fly from America to Brazil 168 pounds. My body will hold more water than normal, and I don't think this will really help my body."

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    I called that one weeks ago. Eddie Alvarez should really take his head clean off, but after that Diaz fight I'll rule nothing out.
    Now Dana has made a u-turn and it's going to be Khabib.

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    Khabib will never lose. He'll beat himself with his training regimes. No idea who mcgregor faces if he's not fighting at LW.

    Cracking card for the purist but McGregor fighting is the only way this breaks Ppv records

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    http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Alv...Through-111459

    206 for Khabib/Eddie now as Alvarez did not return the bout agreement by the deadline set.

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    From what looked like being an absolutely stonking card at one point, UFC 205 now looks a bit limp.

    Frankie Edgar vs Jeremy Stephens headlining, with Kelvin Gastelum replacing Lawler in the Cerrone fight and Rashad Evans vs Tim Kennedy as the co-main.

    EDIT - Forget that, apparently Stephen Thompson vs Tyron Woodley will be added. That's a passable card, albeit not the screamer they'd want to launch New York.

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    That's turned to shit real quickly. Woodley/Thompson will be alright but fuck me. New owners must be fuming at Dana.

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    There's also Yoel Romero/Weidman which should be brilliant.

    They've just added Joanna against Karolina for the title too. Forget Champion v Champion matches which never actually happen, we've got Poland v Poland

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    It's now been officially confirmed that Alvarez will fight Conor at 205 which will headline the card.

    Khabib is pissed.


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    Lmao. Poor guy - all about them Ratings. McGregor's going to break it for the third PPV running

    Three title fights? Shit should be good.

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    McGregor/Alvarez
    Weidman/Romero
    Thompson/Woodley
    Joanna/Karolina
    Tate/Pennington
    Cerrone/Gastelum
    Edgar/Stephens
    Tim/Evans
    Jim/Alves

    Murmurs of them working on Khabib/Johnson too. That undercard...

    £2m buys incoming.

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    http://mmajunkie.com/2016/09/interim...gregor-booking

    Aldo has requested that his contract be terminated after the UFC made the Conor/Alvarez fight and didn't vacate the featherweight title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahow View Post
    http://mmajunkie.com/2016/09/interim...gregor-booking

    Aldo has requested that his contract be terminated after the UFC made the Conor/Alvarez fight and didn't vacate the featherweight title.
    Does seem strange that the UFC would let him keep it for almost 1yr without defending - what is the precedent here? I would have thought that there would be time limit set on these things (with exceptions for unusual circumstances).

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    Only once has it been stripped for inactivity. Frank Mir after he had a bike accident, they took it after a year out.

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    This isn't inactivity though, it's holding the title hostage while he goes off to another weight class to indulge his ego.

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    Well yeah but inactivity is the closest to it I guess. It's mental really.

    Dana has said that if he wins he'll have to give one of the belts up. It's all just pandering to him to try and make him be the first to hold two at once.

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    There isn't much of a precedent, really, and inactivity rules are inconsistent enough that there's no point trying to parse them for this situation. Cain held the belt for not far off two years without defending having only actually defended it twice before that, and there was never even the threat of him being stripped, but Mir was stripped of the same belt after a year.

    It does seem a bit soon for Aldo to be begging for release, but then I suppose if he feels like he lost to a flash knockout and would biff McGregor in a follow up it must be hard to stomach watching the prick go off and make eleventy billion dollars in the year you're stuck waiting for what should have been an immediate rematch. He'd defended the belt seven times, more if you include the WEC belt that transferred, so the fact that he didn't get an immediate rerun is a bit of a disgrace in itself.

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    Their rules seem slightly wooly exactly for this purpose, so they can promote who/how they want.

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    He got knocked out in 13 seconds. He can fuck off if he thinks he's due an immediate rematch. Just another desperate man wanting the McGregor dollar

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    Do be sensible, Waff.

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    A serial pull out artist. Pulled out of something like 6/11 fights. He'll get his belt back once McGregor has the LW title and it can go back to being in the undercard

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    The extent to which you covet that man's willy is ridiculous.

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    I do admire him, aye. Haha. He'll vacate the FW so I see no problem at all. The card does look fkn special though. It'd have been a disgrace if Weidman was left out.

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    "Who the fuck is that" is what Jeremy Stephens is going to hear for the rest of his career.

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    From idiots and non-fans, primarily.

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    How much power do we reckon Dan Henderson has lost since the last time he fought Bisping?

    I fancy him to win by relatively early knockout and immediately retire.

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    I remember him looking alright on whichever Ultimate Fighter it was, but Davey Grant has looked properly good in this fight. He's made a few daft mistakes but generally he's looked at home. Surprising.

    EDIT - That was fucking lightning. Superb stuff.

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    Well, that was scrappy.

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/37638699

    Rousey will make her comeback against Nunes at 207.

    I can see her losing tbh.

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    Fair fucks to Bisping recovering after them two brutal punches. That division is legit

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    GSP's lawyers have terminated his UFC contract:

    http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/ge...nated.3372673/

    Bit of a fuck up if so.

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    Bellator will end up paying him like $10m a fight.

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    He'll stay a free agent until after the Alvarez fight, at which point McGregor will agitate for him as a money fight and they'll both make an outlandish sum of money for a fight in Ontario.

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    http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/11/7...ada-for-doping

    They found that his fault was "at the top end of the scale," because the only questions Jones asked about the particular tablet was toward the teammate who gave it to him and whether or not it was effective from a sexual-performance standpoint.
    Played.

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    Feel awful for both Khabib or Ferguson as one of them is going to be missing out on another title shot. Didn't even realise Ferguson was on a nine fight winning streak.

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    I really like Thompson but he seems a tad overpriced. Woodley doesn't seem to be getting much love. What a fkn night it is going to be

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    http://mmajunkie.com/2016/11/kelvin-...cerrone-is-off



    Alves was also 162.6 for his lightweight fight against Jim Miller but that appears to be on still.

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    "It won't happen again" would mean a lot more if this wasn't the third time already. What a gimp.

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    Fool misses it all the time. Absolutely ridiculous. Like Cerrone said in an interview, he could have got in contact and Cerrone could have blown up in weight so they were within 7 lbs.

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