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    Our whole taxi system has fallen on it's arse since Hailo rebranded as MyTaxi and subsequently turned to dirt. Like fuck am I ever getting 'an' Uber though.

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    Why?

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    The unregulated nature of it meaning it could be any cunt driving. It's basically a way of thumbing with your phone.

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    The Mrs informs me we don't have Uber anyway, so that's an even better reason I'll never get one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    It's not 'Labour supporting London', you need to be more specific. Corbynistas will love it. It's more the monied young who are socially liberal and economically pro-market - i.e. the views which dominate the production and consumption of mainstream media, and the sector that keeps London going - who will hate it.
    The 'Labour supporting London' lot I'm referring to are your standard Citizen of the World wankers who seem to think that Wor Jez and his band of Socialist Merry Men are nice, harmless lefties rather than the anti-consumer, anti-business, anti-competition zealots they actually are. As Lewis alludes to, exposing these people to the potential consequences of their 'pinko economics' is no bad thing.

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    I hope they can figure out something to comply with the regulations and get it back on the road. It's a pretty great service and really convenient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    The unregulated nature of it meaning it could be any cunt driving. It's basically a way of thumbing with your phone.
    You could extend this logic to every conceivable mode of 'non-private' transport. Let the consumer decide for themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GS View Post
    You could extend this logic to every conceivable mode of 'non-private' transport. Let the consumer decide for themselves.
    He asked why I wouldn't get one. I couldn't give a shit about the 'consumer'.

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    Last time I was in México my friends were raving at how awesome Uber is. My gf and I lolled them off and said regular cabs were fine, only to be received by the usual concerns of SAFETY!

    Well, just last week some woman was raped and murdered by her Uber driver, which has triggered a bunch of marchs to protest feminicide. Guess who's ready to claim his e-victory now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    He asked why I wouldn't get one. I couldn't give a shit about the 'consumer'.
    Indeed. Your choice.

    I mean cabbies have had history of picking people up and doing things to people prior to uber. At least you can track the journey and report the car details if something terrible was to occur.

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    Plus they are known to be really good at responding to reports.

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    If only there was some way for the victim to report it.

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    They did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    Indeed. Your choice.

    I mean cabbies have had history of picking people up and doing things to people prior to uber. At least you can track the journey and report the car details if something terrible was to occur.
    Choice is anathema to the left.

    If people are voting for "Sadiq" or Corbyn's Labour, they really have zero grounds for complaint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    Indeed. Your choice.

    I mean cabbies have had history of picking people up and doing things to people prior to uber. At least you can track the journey and report the car details if something terrible was to occur.
    Yeah if only taxis had an identification number of some sort.

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    What have labour got to do with all this? It was mentioned early and often.

    Or is everything to do with labour?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    Yeah if only taxis had an identification number of some sort.
    So you jot down reg plates in every taxi you get in? I mean it's possible but it's not likely.

    Look uber are run by some uber cunts (lol) and I don't agree with all their practices but I've used them for years in multiple cities and it's a great, convenient service.

    And gs may have not called me a rabid lefty. I'm not sure what's going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    So you jot down reg plates in every taxi you get in? I mean it's possible but it's not likely.

    Look uber are run by some uber cunts (lol) and I don't agree with all their practices but I've used them for years in multiple cities and it's a great, convenient service.

    And gs may have not called me a rabid lefty. I'm not sure what's going on.
    The reg? The taxis here have a 5 digit ID number that's on the roof sign and the driver has an ID number which has to be visible when sitting in the back seats. If you book on Lynk, etc you get both numbers and the drivers name before they pick you up.


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    Uber's been getting shit on so hard the past couple years. I fucking love it. The most popular Uber-substitute in the US is called Lyft and according to the drivers (who usually drive for both) Lyft pays em like 20-30% more net.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mokbull View Post
    Uber's been getting shit on so hard the past couple years. I fucking love it. The most popular Uber-substitute in the US is called Lyft and according to the drivers (who usually drive for both) Lyft pays em like 20-30% more net.
    Didn't Uber get caught getting their staff to book and cancel Lyft drivers to lose them business?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    Didn't Uber get caught getting their staff to book and cancel Lyft drivers to lose them business?
    Never heard of that, that's hilarious. There's no way it could have enough of an effect to actually do anything, other than eventually be unearthed by some journo and become more bad press

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    The reg? The taxis here have a 5 digit ID number that's on the roof sign and the driver has an ID number which has to be visible when sitting in the back seats. If you book on Lynk, etc you get both numbers and the drivers name before they pick you up.

    [IMGIMG]
    Fair that's different than picking up off a cab in the street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mokbull View Post
    Never heard of that, that's hilarious. There's no way it could have enough of an effect to actually do anything, other than eventually be unearthed by some journo and become more bad press
    The info seems to have come from Lyft themselves from reading the start of this so it may well be bullshit

    http://money.cnn.com/2014/08/11/tech...yft/index.html

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    http://money.cnn.com/2014/08/11/tech...yft/index.html

    One Lyft passenger, identified by seven different Lyft drivers as an Uber recruiter, canceled 300 rides from May 26 to June 10. That user's phone number was tied to 21 other accounts, for a total of 1,524 canceled rides.
    It's not the first time Uber has been accused of canceling rides on a competing service. Earlier this year, CNNMoney reported that Uber staffers in New York called and withdrew over 100 ride requests with another taxi app, Gett, in the span of three days. After that incident, Uber said in a statement that they would "tone down their sales tactics."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    Fair that's different than picking up off a cab in the street.
    Even if I was flagging one in town, I'd always text the Mrs the number and she does likewise. If they're going to bum me and chop me up then the least they can do is be easier caught for it.

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    The main concern I hear about Uber is from women because the drivers ‘could be anyone’. Mate, have you ever been in a normal Taxi? Having a badge is no barrier to being a fucking weirdo.

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    I might open a carry out and destroy the other ones by phoning in loads of shit orders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    The main concern I hear about Uber is from women because the drivers ‘could be anyone’. Mate, have you ever been in a normal Taxi? Having a badge is no barrier to being a fucking weirdo.
    When you've one that's basically actively encouraging assaults then it's considerably worse though.

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    The bike riders are everywhere in Sydney, as well. I've never really used it, because there's a dozen good places I can get to within five minutes form my door, and they don't normally tell you how long it will take to get your delivery until after you've ordered. Got hit by that one a couple of times.

    Uber's great though. It's just so much more convenient than cabs. You press a couple of buttons, and they know where you are and where you want to go. No need to flag someone down, or talk to a dispatcher. If cabs want to compete, they need to get as convenient as Uber. Seems simple enough.

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    I thought everyone had the same system for taxis so it worked like Uber. We've had 3 different services for the proper taxis for years now (open app, closest taxi is X minutes away, click pick me up on the map, and you get a live notification on the phone on how far the car is away or you can watch it on the map). Unfortunately though the main one was bought out and went to shit recently but hopefully the others can work in on their base now.

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    It seems you guys must be more advanced than the Brits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    It seems you guys must be more advanced than the Brits.
    I'd imagine it's because it's a much smaller market. Most towns outside Dublin barely have taxis.

    That said I was replying to an Australian, I was under the impression that Britain already used Hailo.

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    The choice for me (just outside London) is Uber or the dodgy blokes who line up at the station. Uber obviously significantly better value even though the latter don't anywhere near reach black cabs levels of ripping you off.

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    The best thing about uber is you don't need to direct the driver.

    Oh and you don't need to hear racism either.

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    I heard some world class racism in a taxi a while back. Something about no wonder the other drivers have brown faces as they obviously clean them as often as they clean their cars.

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    X street please.
    Where is that?
    I don't know, I'm not from around here.
    *silence*

    Hate that.

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    On the racism, the idea that Uber is staffed entirely by illegals and rapist illegals (which seems to be why Nigel Farage and other nominal 'right-wingers' are against it) seems to have gained a fair bit of traction with people who probably refused to believe the stories about those Islamic school takeovers.

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    I don't spend much time in London so I've never used Uber, but what is it that makes them so good?

    Have we really been getting taxis wrong all these years and what's next? Are the Uber owners going to tell us where we're going wrong with sandwiches too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    On the racism, the idea that Uber is staffed entirely by illegals and rapist illegals (which seems to be why Nigel Farage and other nominal 'right-wingers' are against it) seems to have gained a fair bit of traction with people who probably refused to believe the stories about those Islamic school takeovers.
    Didn't that Islamic school takeover story get confirmed to be total bollocks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Didn't that Islamic school takeover story get confirmed to be total bollocks?
    No, it didn't.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operat...ailed_findings

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    Uber works for me in Brisbane. A $25 cab driven by a dodgy looking Arab or Indian gets me to the same place a $12 Uber driven by dodgy looking Arab or Indian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItalAussie View Post
    The bike riders are everywhere in Sydney, as well. I've never really used it, because there's a dozen good places I can get to within five minutes form my door, and they don't normally tell you how long it will take to get your delivery until after you've ordered. Got hit by that one a couple of times.

    Uber's great though. It's just so much more convenient than cabs. You press a couple of buttons, and they know where you are and where you want to go. No need to flag someone down, or talk to a dispatcher. If cabs want to compete, they need to get as convenient as Uber. Seems simple enough.
    Competing would require significantly reducing their fares, which they can't or won't do. There are reasons for this - the cost of becoming a taxi driver is reasonably prohibitive (the link isn't the best, but will suffice as an overview - here). They also have to learn 'The Knowledge' (here), which can take a few years.

    The business model is completely out-dated. It's from a time when you a) couldn't use any other 'convenient' service because there was no suitable mechanism for accessing and ordering that service and b) before Sat-Nav when the driver actually needed to know where he was going rather than plugging it into a computer and following the instructions. Nowadays you can summon a car on an app - the driver can use his own car and plug the address into a Sat-Nav.

    The fact is that the black cabs are rip-offs and are peddling an out-dated, over-priced business model to consumers. The reason why they haven't disappeared to competitors like Uber is because they're unionised and can thus exert significant political pressure (see also, the RMT Union basically holding London to ransom because TfL suggest that computers and machines can probably replace people at ticket booths) with a degree of confidence that they'll succeed.

    It's not a question of 'improving the service' so they can 'compete'. The only way it's going to survive and / or sustain itself is if it locks other competitors out and forces the consumer to use it because there's no other viable alternative or choice.

    You can insert a generic anti-left wing political point here if you wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    I don't spend much time in London so I've never used Uber, but what is it that makes them so good?
    Two things: Less time interacting with people in exchange of more time interacting with a screen and lower prices.

    The first one we can't argue against, although as Giggles say, regular cabs are starting to wise up and offer similar services. As for the latter, they only achieve that via two things: One is ignoring every law they don't like in every place they set up and the other is by having a massive financial backing from Silicon Valley which allows them to run at a loss. The first advantage is disappearing as cities wise up and stand against it. The second one, we'll see how long they're willing to wait to see if they can crush all competition. In any case, whether investors become tired of throwing money away or they achieve monopoly status, the prices will inevitably go up.

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    It did and it didn't. Come on Wiki ffs? You're not phonics.

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    And black cabs are a shit form of transport compared to illegal Pete's Mercedes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GS View Post
    The business model is completely out-dated. It's from a time when you a) couldn't use any other 'convenient' service because there was no suitable mechanism for accessing and ordering that service and b) before Sat-Nav when the driver actually needed to know where he was going rather than plugging it into a computer and following the instructions.
    c) businesses needed to follow the law and d) actually be profitable.

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    That sounds a bit like Amazon. Nobody seems to feel as strongly about that; but then people probably use that more.

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    Amazon are another unscrupulous bunch of arseholes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    That sounds a bit like Amazon. Nobody seems to feel as strongly about that; but then people probably use that more.
    I do fucking feel strongly about that.

    Some of your right-wing friends do too, before GS comes and lecture us about THE LEFT.

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