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    It was also from the Europe editor of the Telegraph, which means it's likely to be on the "probably true" side of the sliding scale of bullshit.

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    The Guardian of the right.

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    Just caught a bit of it on the news and it sounds like even more of a shitfest than I'd imagined.

    We're not leaving.

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    I'm not sure why anyone is surprised that in this negotiation one side says they want billions, the other side says you can have nothing, and presumably at some point both sides will settle for something in between that both sides think they can live with.

    And regardless of what that amount is the government will be lambasted by all sides for not getting it right.

    Which presumably is the pattern for every issue in the Brexit process.

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    That article just reads like some cokehead Tory dickwad trying to give it the big 'un.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McAvennie View Post
    I'm not sure why anyone is surprised that in this negotiation one side says they want billions, the other side says you can have nothing, and presumably at some point both sides will settle for something in between that both sides think they can live with.

    And regardless of what that amount is the government will be lambasted by all sides for not getting it right.

    Which presumably is the pattern for every issue in the Brexit process.
    Unless one or both sides are dead set on ideological oblivion regardless of the consequences.

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    Last night I dreamed that there was an election and the Lib Dems won a huge landslide, reducing Cons and Labour to around 20 seats each. Vince Cable was about to become PM, but then Theresa May stayed in power because the election was 'only advisory'.

    Didn't know I had a knobhead satirical subconscious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItalAussie View Post
    The Guardian of the right.
    The same story is in the Guardian today, mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McAvennie View Post
    I'm not sure why anyone is surprised that in this negotiation one side says they want billions, the other side says you can have nothing, and presumably at some point both sides will settle for something in between that both sides think they can live with.

    And regardless of what that amount is the government will be lambasted by all sides for not getting it right.

    Which presumably is the pattern for every issue in the Brexit process.
    I saw this today and just laughed


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    The coverage is laughable. Both sides are doing the same thing which is adopting a negotiating position. The Brit position is obviously 'a deal is close' and the EU position is 'a deal is nowhere near' and this will be the same, regardless of what happens, until the deal is signed. The Remain-dominated media suck EU cock - 'Oh, how clever they are! These continental minds!' (most of these journos should genuinely be fired from their jobs and never work again), while the loony Leavers seethe for reasons unknown.

    It's almost as if none of them have ever done a real job.

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    "Being serious" and "making progress" appear to be synonyms for "agreeing with the EU".

    I don't know what Continuity Remain are expecting, frankly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GS View Post
    The same story is in the Guardian today, mate.
    More a counter-claim to your assessment that the Telegraph is any less unreliable or ideologically motivated.

    They're both happy to spin for their own side.

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    What's the opposite of Continuity Remain? the Real Brexiteers?

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    The Telegraph isn't even a newspaper these days, just a click generation exercise. In fact they both are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    The Telegraph isn't even a newspaper these days, just a click generation exercise. In fact they both are.
    That's all newspapers have ever been, it's just more transparent/measurable now.

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    I would say that in the past (until 5-10 years ago) they had more than enough room to manoeuvre that they could perform a public service role and produce quality output for its own sake, or to put it another way, people would pay money for the quality output.

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    Counter argument: The Sun is the biggest selling paper

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    Because it has a sense of humour (probably the only paper with one). People always seem to miss that.

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    The summer recess finishes this week, so the whole thing is kicking off again. I'm sure you're all thrilled.

    http://www.scotsman.com/news/politic...poll-1-4549780

    59% No, with no discernible difference between Scotland and England on the desired level of immigration. It's a shame that Sebo isn't about, to explain away Krankie's dreadful misjudgements earlier in the year.

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    Elsewhere, Michel Barnier appears to have said out loud what everybody already knew about their intentions, so we might as well tell them to get fucked, pull our monies immediately, and start rounding up the immigrants.

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    It sort of proves why it was sensible to get out now, really. It's a dreadful organisation.

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    We should educate his people on the consequences of not buying any of their dreadful wine.

    As an aside, I had a baguette from Asda the other day which proudly proclaimed itself to be made from 100% French flour. Seriously, what the fuck is that all about?

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    The days when 'Lord Adonis' was all the rage seem a long, long time ago. Bald twat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    We should educate his people on the consequences of not buying any of their dreadful wine.

    As an aside, I had a baguette from Asda the other day which proudly proclaimed itself to be made from 100% French flour. Seriously, what the fuck is that all about?
    I've always thought that bread is a massive blind spot for Asda. Their bakery is shit compared to their rivals, although Sainsbury's is probably the worst simply for caving to that 'giraffe bread' arsehole.

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    It's great you plonker. LIDL is the best though.

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    The latest tracker poll on the EU vote has it at 52-48 leave if the vote was held tomorrow.

    You have to laugh.

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    He's back on the polls are relevant train folks.

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    I'd be surprised if there hadn't been a swing to remain, which is ultimately what we're going to end up doing anyway, perhaps in all but name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    He's back on the polls are relevant train folks.
    Polls are useful to identify trend. Try to remember things you're told previously rather than defaulting to your usual idiocy and showing yourself up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    I'd be surprised if there hadn't been a swing to remain, which is ultimately what we're going to end up doing anyway, perhaps in all but name.
    There has been zero trend towards it in the last 14 months. That's not to say it won't still happen, but those who are predicating their entire strategy on capitalising on a sudden shift towards remain / reversal could be waiting a long fucking time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    I'd be surprised if there hadn't been a swing to remain, which is ultimately what we're going to end up doing anyway, perhaps in all but name.
    There's been a bit of a swing to remain in the media, as people realise dinner party places are under threat. In the real world, nothing has changed, and why would it.

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    I don't think there's been any discernible change in the media. Everything that's happened has just been used to confirm what everybody already thought.

    Articles in the Guardian and the BBC just get shared more because they're not sitting behind paywalls. Continuity Remain are also starting to come unhinged ('Chappers' and 'Lord' Adonis being good examples), exacerbating it.

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    On a separate issue, Tim "Monty" Montgomery has his own website now and has done some polling. The standout is this, where apparently 40% of the YOUTH vote think 'freedom' is less important than 'equality'. Thick bastards.


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    I reckon Tim Montgomerie is the most overrated pundit in the business. There are worse people, but they get CALLED OUT. Nobody ever seems to point out how shit 'Monty' is.

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    And he actually spells it 'Montie'. Closet case twat.

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    The ESTABLISHMENT journos all pile in to praise 'Janan' and that blonde one from the Guardian too, and they're both shite, self-satisfied chancers.

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    Isn't his whole website meant to be about not following the herd but then they used a fucking cow for the logo?

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    It's a real bag of bollocks, and the fact that there are people willing to sink money into it is baffling.

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    People will pay for anything. There was some story on the BBC earlier about a woman gamer who earns above average wage from charging people to watch her play. I mean really.

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    No, as in he has actual donors who pay for the office space and all sorts. Who has that great an interest in microwaved Francis Pym sermons?

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    That happens more than you think, GS. It's twitch's entire business model. Almost entirely crowdfunded too so it has the sustainability of a short, wet fart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    No, as in he has actual donors who pay for the office space and all sorts. Who has that great an interest in microwaved Francis Pym sermons?
    Does he fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    That happens more than you think, GS. It's twitch's entire business model. Almost entirely crowdfunded too so it has the sustainability of a short, wet fart.
    Genuinely baffling.

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    Some of it is skill based (speedruns and stuff) but a lot of it is down to personality. It's very dumb and populated by dumb people. Who are bankrolled by a generation of people who will RUIN OUR FUCKING PENSION POT.

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    Are there not wankers who earn a living just by posting YouTube videos of themselves opening Ultimate Team packs?

    The fucking state of this country.

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    Yup. Although youtube's income is mostly ad-based. All you need is the audience for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    No, as in he has actual donors who pay for the office space and all sorts. Who has that great an interest in microwaved Francis Pym sermons?
    One day I'll take you on a weekend tour of the North London Wanker scene, it's basically about 30,000 people with loads of money, no idea what to do with it, and a massively inflated sense of their own importance. Absolutely ripe for creating a website like that.

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    Perhaps we could get something going and pass our right wing shite off as satire.

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    Once upon a time you could have just bought a peerage, but a certain somebody ruined that, so this is his fault.

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