Sorry, just assumed that was the dream of every young Tory voter, regardless of background.
Theresa May's Conservatives
Jeremy Corbyn's Labour
Tim Farron's Liberal Democrats
Paul Nuttall's UKIP
2 people's Greens
Nicholas Durgeon's Scottish Nationalists
Satan's Sinn Fein
Dr Ian Paisley's DUP
Some other bunch of nonces
I'm foreign, but I wish I were an Englishman
Sorry, just assumed that was the dream of every young Tory voter, regardless of background.
I wouldn't have thought so.
Sound public finances.
Adam is to politics, as GS is to banter.
This isn't banter.
This is peak grievance shit, this.
I was reading a bit of the stuff angry Salmond retweeted and it seemed like the nats had been taken over in a similar manner to the labour mentals. National being one in the cross hairs for going full on echo chamber.
Didn't that lot pioneer the mental illness-driven approach?
The Nats appear to have developed a full-on bunker mentality.
What's going on with that dog and Wee Ginger Dug?
It'll be a column pseudonym that someone writes under. Fairly common in our papers/magazines.
No new petrol or diesel cars from 2040. RIP Top Gear.
Won't they just switch to testing electric cars? Surely they've done the Tesla's already?Originally Posted by Shindig
They'll all be dead anyway.
If the technology will be in place by 2040, which it more than likely will be (where the power comes from is another matter), then why bother with some stupid ban? In the unlikely event that there will still be viable non-electric options we will just be fucking ourselves.
Because gesture politics.
We'll end up making it more expensive for poor people to travel. Much in the same way that our current green policies end up completely shafting our own businesses by driving up energy costs and simply exporting carbon emissions to other countries instead.
The point of making it 2040 is so that it's remote enough that there's no cost to the current government. If it happens to be seen as inconvenient by then, they'll just move it back again.
And no, letting the market decide isn't the right option, Lewis.
Why not introduce the ban now then? They must be hoping the market keeps developing everything necessary for it to work.
I wish they would introduce the ban sooner. Say ten years. To the extent that the ALMIGHTY MARKET has a role, their efforts would then be more focused since the downside risks of not having a scalable and cost-effective solution would have changed. Although as you know, the state pays a very large proportion of research costs anyway.
Who has it done that for? Buyers are subsidised, which they shouldn't be, but where we are now is the result of two decades of people like Toyota and Volkswagen (lol) pouring loads of money into it (and taking huge losses in the first decade).
They get tax credits based on their R&D spending.
https://www.ft.com/content/862623ac-...e-00144feabdc0
That's for the UK obviously. Other countries have similar schemes.
I've advocated significant R&D tax breaks for exactly this sort of spending. It's good to see you accepting the case for it.
Research and development tax relief isn't specific to car manufacturers, and tax relief is not 'the state paying a very large proportion of research costs'. I've just read as well that this ban will include hybrid vehicles, which makes it even more idiotic than first thought (and will probably cancel itself out once China starts mining itself to death keeping up with battery demands).
I didn't say that it was specific to them. Being allowed to keep money that they' otherwise hand over in tax is equivalent to the state picking up costs.
On another note, who was it on here who once expressed incredulity about using renewable energy in vehicles because you couldn't have a car driving about with a windmill on top?
No, it's not.
Explain how it's any different to the state abolishing the tax relief and handing them a subsidy for the same amount instead.
Because it will never, ever be a Ł1 = Ł1 trade off.
If you provide more generous R&D relief (e.g. Ł2 increase in threshold for every Ł1 spent on R&D), they'll likely invest much more here. You lose some CT in the years when the private sector company in question is ploughing free cash flows into product or service development, but you will generate compensating tax revenues from those activities. Additionally, you'll see benefits further down the line in tax revenue if the product works, goes to market, and is successful.
I just keep thinking this will be a godsend to those guys in Nissan. They manufacture the Leaf in Washington so they could do gangbusters.
Another position that Labour have held on the single market. This time, McDonnell suggesting they may try and stay in.
Lol.
Unveiled it himself.
I've painted Diane Abbott on my bedroom wall in the hope she comes round to unveil it.
"The face of honest politics."
You have to laugh at them, really.
No politician is honest, mate.
You should tell them that, given they've painted it onto the wall below him.
Why don't you tell them? It's a lovely day out.
If there's one thing that can revitalise Tory fortunes, this 'The Democrats' effort is definitely it.
Look at the state of that.
I never knew who he was until the other day, which I think explains the entire 'project'.
What the fuck is that?
Are they actually starting that new centrist party they've been threatening for ages?
Define "they". We could start our own party, and we'd probably have more success than they ultimately will. Nobody worthwhile is joining a fucking new party that would get hammered under FPTP, unless they give literally not a fuck about their career prospects.
Liberal EU-loving bellends.
They've already got the fucking Lib Dems anyway, the stupid wankers.
From now on, I'm only voting for the guys without a twitter handle. Social media has fucked politics for everyone.
Haven't you only voted once?
Twice.
Yep. I don't think they've quite grasped that this option effectively existed in June, and only about seven percent of people bothered with it. The one advantage the election has given is leeway on timings. We'll have a three year transition period (ish) and be out before the next election, ergo there will be no way of reversing it without re-applying from the beginning and having to enter the Euro, which nobody but the ultra-mentalists would accept. It's done.
It appears that your man James Chapman is in the process of an actual breakdown of some kind. His journalist colleagues seem to be piling in to see if there's anyone who can intervene.
Quite an apt parallel of how a new party would get on, really.
It's all a wind up isn't it? Although the disciples seem to be taking it deadly seriously, as they do everything.
AC Grayling will be seething in a chateau in the Dordogne right now.
It's long past the point where any of it makes sense. It seems Nick Clegg has some sort of book out in the autumn detailing how they should go about stopping it all.
Still, whatever keeps them happy.
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