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  • Theresa May's Conservatives

    10 22.73%
  • Jeremy Corbyn's Labour

    23 52.27%
  • Tim Farron's Liberal Democrats

    3 6.82%
  • Paul Nuttall's UKIP

    0 0%
  • 2 people's Greens

    1 2.27%
  • Nicholas Durgeon's Scottish Nationalists

    1 2.27%
  • Satan's Sinn Fein

    0 0%
  • Dr Ian Paisley's DUP

    0 0%
  • Some other bunch of nonces

    2 4.55%
  • I'm foreign, but I wish I were an Englishman

    4 9.09%
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Thread: UK General Election 2017 - 8 June

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    It would appear so-

    http://www.thenational.scot/politics..._whit_we_need/

    I can decipher most of it but it takes some effort.

    70p for that bollocks, that's a double decker in the works vending machine being thrown away.

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    Yeah, I can read it too since I'm used to Ulster-Scots but it is a pain. It's fine talking like that but everyone learns to read normal English. It must be more effort for him to write too, surely.

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    Is that Gaelic?

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    No, it's Scots.

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    Ah right I knew it was a different language as I couldn't make head nor toe of it. Can pick out the odd similar word though guessing it's git similar roots to English.

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    Trying to pronounce Gaelic words is hard enough, forget even trying to recognise anything remotely similar to English.

    http://www.hp.europe.de/kd-europtrav...ic/proverb.htm

    A trip to the North West Highlands can be an eye opener regarding road signs.

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    "Wee Ginger Dug" ???

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    I understand my father in law less than 14% of the time.

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    It only has circulation of about ten thousand, which is probably less than plenty of municipal or local newspapers elsewhere in the country.

    I'm not sure why it gets the prominence it does, beyond laughing at the absolute state of their EXTREMIST stance.

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40408576

    More people now back a tax and spend ideology than austerity for the first time since the CREDIT CRUNCH.

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    Ulster-Socts is a made up language invented so that unionists in the north can claim the same funding as the Irish language does. It's childish.

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    So many 'we're fed up with the SNP' articles from actual voters. DER UNTERGANG.

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    There hasn't been any austerity, but whatever. Denis Healey (Old Labour's Denis Healey) cut by more than the 2010-17 Tory governments in a single year.

    I think politicians/elites have made themselves so far removed now that people literally don't care what happens to the national finances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy
    There hasn't been any austerity
    Of course there has. Just not as much as you'd like.

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    Not the best x axis, but regardless - no austerity.

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    Now go find the graph where it's adjusted for inflation. (i.e. in real terms.)

    Not to mention that there can actually still be austerity in most areas as spending goes up in others such as unemployment benefits because of a recession.

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    The government could try cutting budgets to keep austerity people happy but then put the money saved in high interest accounts which would help pay back national debt quicker.

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    Ulster Scots is pointless, but Irish is spoken by only four thousand people a day outside the education system. It's a complete waste of time and effort to have every government document translated or to have court cases in Irish. This isn't the Gaeltacht - barely anyone speaks it.

    I'm all for a cultural protection act, but it's a dead language and it's being leveraged for political gain to pretend that they're being discriminated against (or, as it's otherwise known, the Sinn Fein/IRA playbook). It's odds on the vast majority of those out having a moan a few months ago could barely string four coherent sentences together in it.

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    Written 'Scots' is just English with crap spelling, as far as I can see. What they're speaking when they talk about 'Scots' is also a dialect of English, just like Scouse, or cockney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GS View Post
    Ulster Scots is pointless, but Irish is spoken by only four thousand people a day outside the education system.
    It's over 70,000 outside the education system.
    Your hostility to this can be taken for what it is - party of your fanatical bigotry against all elements of Irish nationalist culture.

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    Unsurprisingly, you're wrong. The census shows 4,130 people speaking it as their main language. Or 0.24%.

    I have no objection to a cultural protection act that allows people to learn it etc etc but there is simply no justification for pissing money up the wall in the manner being suggested.

    Try and understand the distinction, lest you embarrass yourself again.

    By the way, I think you'll find that I'm capable of drawing a distinction between Irish nationalism, which I don't object to, and Irish republicanism - which was vile. It's notable which one your "political hero" (LOL) Jez chose to support, isn't it.

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    The irony is that without Jez supporting the IRA, the price of a DUP deal would have been far higher for PM Theresa.

    Last night I dreamed that May resigned and Chris Eubank stepped in. Not sure where that one's going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    The irony is that without Jez supporting the IRA, the price of a DUP deal would have been far higher for PM Theresa.

    Last night I dreamed that May resigned and Chris Eubank stepped in. Not sure where that one's going.
    True, she's quite lucky the Labour front bench holds such vile opinions on the matter.

    That said, by the time that David Miliband's Labour had bought off the DUP, the SNP and the Lib Dems there would have been literally nothing left to keep their own electorate happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GS View Post
    Unsurprisingly, you're wrong. The census shows 4,130 people speaking it as their main language. Or 0.24%.
    If you're going to characterise it as a dead language, you need to count all speakers of it, not just those living in Northern Ireland.

    Quote Originally Posted by GS
    I have no objection to a cultural protection act that allows people to learn it etc etc but there is simply no justification for pissing money up the wall in the manner being suggested.

    Try and understand the distinction, lest you embarrass yourself again.

    By the way, I think you'll find that I'm capable of drawing a distinction between Irish nationalism, which I don't object to, and Irish republicanism - which was vile. It's notable which one your "political hero" (LOL) Jez chose to support, isn't it.
    You don't draw the distinction very well. Like when you reacted with glee to the economic crash in the south, or when you represent the GAA as some sort of IRA front group. Not to mention voting for the fucking DUP.

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    The GAA have / had clubs, trophies, grounds, and competitions named after republican terrorists.

    It's glorification of terrorism, unfortunately.

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    Why do people automatically assume throwing more money at something makes the problem go away?

    The public services probably needs to be looked at on a per head basis, in which case spending has fallen dramatically.

    Also they should look at proper processes and not being ripped off by pharmaceutical companies if they really wanted to be efficient. Also these cunt doctors that get paid LOADS for a bollocks shift.

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    PRIVATISE the fire service!

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    I think it's because idiots explain sums of money as x thousand nurses, rather than - as is actually the case - half that many, a load of diversity staff, money set aside for settling negligence cases, and two hundred quid light bulbs. I don't read much into these surveys. It's very easy for 48% of people to tell a poll they would happily pay more taxes, but I think the reality would be very different.

    As for austerity, what (relatively minor) reductions in the size of the state have taken place have basically been cancelled out by pensions and debt interest. Compared to what used to pass as an austere financial climate we've been living the high life throughout.

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    Let's just slap 10p on income tax today and see how much public services actually improve for that money. If I get proactive policing (currently none), walk-in centres and GP surgeries staying open, more and better buses, better roads, improved care for the elderly, and better cancer care for that 10p, I'll pay it.

    Just wouldn't happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Let's just slap 10p on income tax today and see how much public services actually improve for that money. If I get proactive policing (currently none), walk-in centres and GP surgeries staying open, more and better buses, better roads, improved care for the elderly, and better cancer care for that 10p, I'll pay it.

    Just wouldn't happen.
    Don't the Germans have pretty high taxes and never complain because all their shit is pretty fucking awesome?

    Well at least until a million refugees brought it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Let's just slap 10p on income tax today and see how much public services actually improve for that money. If I get proactive policing (currently none), walk-in centres and GP surgeries staying open, more and better buses, better roads, improved care for the elderly, and better cancer care for that 10p, I'll pay it.
    Cool. Voting Labour next time round then?

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    The Germans don't have the NHS, so I can't see how that could be right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    The Germans don't have the NHS, so I can't see how that could be right.
    Apparently their current healthcare offering is 77% funded by the government.

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    That sounds privatised to me. Poor bastards.

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    Not sure what Mert thinks is great about the Swiss healthcare system. It's always been okay in a service sense once you're diagnosed but the whole GP side of things is massively corrupt. You have to see about 6 specialists (that just so happened to go to school together/are best mates) before anyone tells you what's wrong with you.

    I also hate having to pay for it and then claim it back because I fucking despise basic admin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Not sure what Mert thinks is great about the Swiss healthcare system.
    Apart from it's the 2nd best in Europe.

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    I pay them 550 quid a month, I'd bloody well hope so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Cool. Voting Labour next time round then?
    No, because they aren't competent enough to deliver it, especially this latest incarnation, who will spend the money on magic beads, yoghurt and the Venezuelan embassy.

    As such, I'll vote to keep my own money.

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    Just Jez there, linking the fire to austerity again.

    What a wanker.

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    The basic rate was more back in the day and every conceivable 'service' was shit.

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    Perhaps, it seems to be two total and utter evils:

    Shambolic black hole inefficient money pit

    Fully exploited reduced service also a fucking shambles

    We can't seem to mix and match the best of both worlds, it's either shit or shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    What really has pissed me off is Bouldy adopting 'the absolute boy'. Fucking cunt. @Boydy
    I only remembered the exchange because I thought it was a horrendous phrase that he'd made up, but it appears that not only is it an actual thing but generation snowflake are now pushing back on its gender specificity.

    Idiots.


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    Ellie Mae O'Hagan is a dick.

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    That tweet, while not a perfect example of 'The Ratio Rule' (This is a Twitter rule where if a tweet has more replies than RTs+Favs, it's probably a bad take) it does have nearly triple the amount of replies she gets to her other tweets which indicates that even the people who follow her think it's a bad take.

    Scanning at the replies, it's a mix of the two. Best reply is just some bloke spamming all the people who agree with her saying 'the absolute person'

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    Writing for the Guardian must be the easiest job in the world.

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    I reckon most of them work from templates.

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    Has no one done a Guardian thinkpiece twitter bot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Has no one done a Guardian thinkpiece twitter bot?
    George Monbot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Has no one done a Guardian thinkpiece twitter bot?
    There was one that does Comment Is Free headlines but I think it just feeds in dril tweets.

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    lolllllllllllll

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