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  • Theresa May's Conservatives

    10 22.73%
  • Jeremy Corbyn's Labour

    23 52.27%
  • Tim Farron's Liberal Democrats

    3 6.82%
  • Paul Nuttall's UKIP

    0 0%
  • 2 people's Greens

    1 2.27%
  • Nicholas Durgeon's Scottish Nationalists

    1 2.27%
  • Satan's Sinn Fein

    0 0%
  • Dr Ian Paisley's DUP

    0 0%
  • Some other bunch of nonces

    2 4.55%
  • I'm foreign, but I wish I were an Englishman

    4 9.09%
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Thread: UK General Election 2017 - 8 June

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    That's what they said about this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    If the Tories got a new leader for an October GE they'd probably win a majority.
    Unless Corbyn utterly rules out IndyRef2 and wins back all those protest Tory votes in Scotland.

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    My biggest mistake in this thread was not taking heed of the TTH bellwether, Yevrah saying how much he admired Corbyn's campaign.

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    Has anyone photoshopped that gif to show her swallowing a rodent? The movement is almost exactly what birds do in place of peristalsis.

    I'd assume someone had, but then I also assume that if someone had you would have posted it, so I'm torn.

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    TTH Bellend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    Has anyone photoshopped that gif to show her swallowing a rodent? The movement is almost exactly what birds do in place of peristalsis.

    I'd assume someone had, but then I also assume that if someone had you would have posted it, so I'm town.
    There's one of a fish.

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    May: I have no intention of resigning.

    Lololololol.

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    Just imagined Nick Cohen crying into his tea this morning.

    If there's anything I've learnt about the last 40 minutes. I'm not getting any work done today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    I said a few weeks ago Ruth Davidson should be Tory leader. She's a God.
    Maintaining the Union is far more important, frankly. She needs to stay where she is, because she's doing a fucking brilliant job. I've given up working out what happens any more, but assuming there's another election by the end of the year does the SNP seat share not decline further as the unionist voters now know which way to go in their constituency to maximise the "fuck you, SNP" vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Byron View Post
    Whichever way you cut it, it's a phyrric victory for May.
    It can only be a pyrrhic victory by being an actual victory. Going from a 15+ point lead to three, and losing your majority in an election you didn't need to call, is not a victory. It's an absolute fuck up of unheard of levels. Calling the election was the right thing to do, by the way. Running the worst campaign in living memory with a manifesto that seemed specifically designed to alienate everybody was not. Hubris to think they could stick literally any old shit into it and run away with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    72% turnout among the 18-25s.
    If it's true, then fair play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byron View Post
    May: I have no intention of resigning.

    Lololololol.
    She'll have to resign. Even if she can form a government, which I imagine she can, the opposition will laugh at her and her own MPs will all hate her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GS View Post
    If it's true, then fair play.
    It's not true, it's fake news. Figure won't be known until next week.

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    Page lacks Buckethead.

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    If this ends up with a shite, watered down Brexit (which in theory it shouldn't, but what use is that?) then I will actually be SEETHING. At the moment I'm just a bit 'You wot mate?'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    If this ends up with a shite, watered down Brexit (which in theory it shouldn't, but what use is that?) then I will actually be SEETHING. At the moment I'm just a bit 'You wot mate?'
    Ken Clarke PM by Christmas, we'll be using the Euro by next June.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    It's not true, it's fake news. Figure won't be known until next week.
    Standard. There must be massive increase in the youth turnout though, otherwise where the fuck has the vote come from.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    If this ends up with a shite, watered down Brexit (which in theory it shouldn't, but what use is that?) then I will actually be SEETHING. At the moment I'm just a bit 'You wot mate?'
    She doesn't have a MANDATE for her VISION for Brexit, in my view. This is basically a rejection of her. We've managed to have a Brexit election where Brexit was barely mentioned.

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    Can confirm the Lord dabbed:


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    Well that's him ruined.

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    That's not a dab but it would probably be quite hard to put your head in your elbow crease with a foot and a half long head.

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    It could come to this. Christ.

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    Heres that Buckethead interview John mentioned previously btw

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson...8Y4#.wlmRjX21m

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    Nigel Dodds at the Foreign Office, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GS View Post


    It could come to this. Christ.
    Politically, I'm not sure the Conservatives should really be running round with an anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-climate change party for a couple of years while their voters die off and younger voters grow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GS View Post
    It can only be a pyrrhic victory by being an actual victory. Going from a 15+ point lead to three, and losing your majority in an election you didn't need to call, is not a victory. It's an absolute fuck up of unheard of levels. Calling the election was the right thing to do, by the way. Running the worst campaign in living memory with a manifesto that seemed specifically designed to alienate everybody was not. Hubris to think they could stick literally any old shit into it and run away with it.
    It's pyrrhic in the sense that ultimately, the only realistic government is a Tory minority. There is no chance of a progressive alliance so the Tories have 'won'

    But I agree that the campaign was such a monumental car crash that you have to wonder what the fuck May was playing at hiding away and parroting 'STRONG AND STABLE, STRONG AND STABLE, STRONG AND STABLE' while Corbyn is out talking to people and engaging with people, which is by far his strongest area. To think, if Labour had gained an extra 10 seats on the Tories and the SNP held onto 5 more, then you'd be looking at the Tories out of power, it was that close.

    Just saw the Tories ended up 2% of the vote ahead of Labour. How the fuck?

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    This post has been updated to remove all references to Lord Buckethead being a man. Any person of any gender is capable of sticking a bucket on their head and standing for election under the name Lord Buckethead, despite what the title implies.
    Fuck off, Buzzfeed.

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    IIRC that's a correction from Lord Buckethead themself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GS View Post
    She doesn't have a MANDATE for her VISION for Brexit, in my view. This is basically a rejection of her. We've managed to have a Brexit election where Brexit was barely mentioned.
    Insofar as the Labour manifesto made any sense on the issue, they appeared to want to leave the single market. Throw in all of the Conservatives voting much more explicitly for doing so, and how do you justify botching it? Toby Young (of all fucking people) made the point as well that why would Europe actually want to give us some cushy single market arrangement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byron View Post
    It's pyrrhic in the sense that ultimately, the only realistic government is a Tory minority. There is no chance of a progressive alliance so the Tories have 'won'

    But I agree that the campaign was such a monumental car crash that you have to wonder what the fuck May was playing at hiding away and parroting 'STRONG AND STABLE, STRONG AND STABLE, STRONG AND STABLE' while Corbyn is out talking to people and engaging with people, which is by far his strongest area. To think, if Labour had gained an extra 10 seats on the Tories and the SNP held onto 5 more, then you'd be looking at the Tories out of power, it was that close.

    Just saw the Tories ended up 2% of the vote ahead of Labour. How the fuck?
    She's just not very good, and the campaign exposed it. It's all very Hillary Clinton here, isn't it. Up against a chancer, hubris in targeting areas you won't win whilst neglecting your 'safe' areas, being terrible when put under proper scrutiny and thus trying to avoid it.

    The Tories are ruthless - she'll be out on her ear as soon as it's convenient.

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    Toby Young is the worst high-level journalist in the country. Even his mates agree.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Byron View Post
    Just saw the Tories ended up 2% of the vote ahead of Labour. How the fuck?
    Shares of vote make no sense (or no practical sense). Cons up 6 on last time and lose seats. Virtually all of the swing predictions go against them as well (they should have lost fewer seats in England and won more in Scotland had the swing been uniform). They've never really won an election sufficiently for them to do all the redrawing they want, have they?

    The best bit about Buckethead are his cricket pads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Insofar as the Labour manifesto made any sense on the issue, they appeared to want to leave the single market. Throw in all of the Conservatives voting much more explicitly for doing so, and how do you justify botching it? Toby Young (of all fucking people) made the point as well that why would Europe actually want to give us some cushy single market arrangement?
    I don't disagree, but Labour barely articulated a view on Brexit throughout the campaign so they're not especially tied down to any particular form of it - they can basically coalesce around an anti-May position, which will presumably focus on issues such as "job killing Brexit" and so forth. Immigration would obviously be a big factor, but these lads who've moved from UKIP to Corbyn's Labour appear not to be especially exercised by that. If they were, May wouldn't have lost them.

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    Do, does Brexit still mean Brexit?

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    Presumably.

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    Also, I agree that this is a pretty good result for Corbyn, arguably better than if he'd won outright.

    If that had happened, the Blairites probably wouldn't have played ball with him as PM, at least not for very long. And given that Brexit is going to be a monumental fuckup whatever happens, he'd have taken the blame.

    This way, Tory scum get the blame and hopefully will have lost all credibility in a couple of years. Then we get Prime Minister Corbyn.

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    Well May asked for the electorate to give her the Brexit MANDATE.

    So err......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry View Post
    Also, I agree that this is a pretty good result for Corbyn, arguably better than if he'd won outright.

    If that had happened, the Blairites probably wouldn't have played ball with him as PM, at least not for very long. And given that Brexit is going to be a monumental fuckup whatever happens, he'd have taken the blame.

    This way, Tory scum get the blame and hopefully will have lost all credibility in a couple of years. Then we get Prime Minister Corbyn.
    There's a serious risk of your sort overestimating Jeremy after this. He remains an absolute moron. If there's a left PM in the offing it won't be him or McDonnell.

    He's also 68 so it's going to have to be pretty soon.

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    Oh, and a good point from Dimbleby this morning that this marks a return to a 2 party system, after decades of drifting away from that. Both major parties got a large increase in their vote.

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    I saw one poll where the UKIP candidate didn't even vote for himself. Got 0.

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    Phillip May hasn't taken the result well.

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    It also has to be remembered that Labour didn't "win" the election either. They did well relative to expectations, but this is after seven years of a Tory government and they've managed to recover their seats to the same level as Gordon Brown won in 2010. The only viable outcome here is Tory minority with DUP confidence and supply or outright coalition between the two. There are no circumstances in which Jez becomes Prime Minister, and I don't think he wins the same number of seats if there's another election before the end of the year (although what the fuck do any of us know at this point).

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    I saw one poll where the UKIP candidate didn't even vote for himself. Got 0.
    They probably didn't even live in the constituency, to be fair.

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    By the way I am amazed ISIS didn't ramraid a polling station. Such an easy target with zero security and would have resulted in an absolute clusterfuck, probably cancelling the election.

    They should hire me as their new head of strategy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GS View Post


    It could come to this. Christ.
    Wouldn't it make sense to have the Northern Ireland Secretary come from Northern Ireland?

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    They need to be impartial. You can't have the DUP doing it, the nationalists will go apeshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItalAussie View Post
    Wouldn't it make sense to have the Northern Ireland Secretary come from Northern Ireland?
    It's such a polarised basket case over there you need a neutral for that job.

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    Just need to wait until May calls another election. Jezza stands up in the House of Commons and says 'I will send Tony Blair to the Hague'

    He'd get 80% of the vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    By the way I am amazed ISIS didn't ramraid a polling station. Such an easy target with zero security and would have resulted in an absolute clusterfuck, probably cancelling the election.

    They should hire me as their new head of strategy.
    They must have trusted the YouGov polls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItalAussie View Post
    Wouldn't it make sense to have the Northern Ireland Secretary come from Northern Ireland?


    That's the most crazy idea I've ever heard you put forth.

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    John mentioned Bucketheads manifesto so I thought I'd take a look.

    My favourites:

    7. Nuclear weapons: A firm public commitment to build the £100bn renewal of the Trident weapons system, followed by an equally firm private commitment not to build it. They’re secret submarines, no one will ever know. It’s a win win.

    13. Stop selling arms to Saudi Arabia. Start buying lasers from Lord Buckethead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    John mentioned Bucketheads manifesto so I thought I'd take a look.

    My favourites:

    7. Nuclear weapons: A firm public commitment to build the £100bn renewal of the Trident weapons system, followed by an equally firm private commitment not to build it. They’re secret submarines, no one will ever know. It’s a win win.

    13. Stop selling arms to Saudi Arabia. Start buying lasers from Lord Buckethead.
    I came here to mention Buckethead dabbin on 'em; seems he's already a cult hero.

    Point 7 is brilliant and had me properly lolling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rush View Post
    I came here to mention Buckethead dabbin on 'em; seems he's already a cult hero.

    Point 7 is brilliant and had me properly lolling.
    He was a hero immediately. Page thirty nine is dedicated to him.

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