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  • Theresa May's Conservatives

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  • Jeremy Corbyn's Labour

    23 52.27%
  • Tim Farron's Liberal Democrats

    3 6.82%
  • Paul Nuttall's UKIP

    0 0%
  • 2 people's Greens

    1 2.27%
  • Nicholas Durgeon's Scottish Nationalists

    1 2.27%
  • Satan's Sinn Fein

    0 0%
  • Dr Ian Paisley's DUP

    0 0%
  • Some other bunch of nonces

    2 4.55%
  • I'm foreign, but I wish I were an Englishman

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Thread: UK General Election 2017 - 8 June

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    Yep, suddenly this all makes sense.

    Somewhat surprised she's stuck by him. If she's innocent of any knowledge of what was going on I'd be livid were I her - he's basically torpedoed any chance of independence.

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    The investigation was launched after complaints about the SNP’s handling of £600,000 in donations raised by the party ostensibly to campaign for and hold a second independence referendum.

    It is alleged the money was used instead to help with the party’s day-to-day running costs.
    From this: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...droidApp_Other

    I don't really get what's so bad about that. Was the campaign they raised the money for in the first place a separate legal entity to the SNP or what?

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    If it wasn't and you gave money to one SNP thing and they used that money for other SNP things, would you be arsed? If it's going to the SNP in the first place, you're clearly happy to financially support the SNP.

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    One might suggest that election/funding laws are largely there to allow the establishment to attack whichever [niche] political movement du jour that they don't much like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    If it wasn't and you gave money to one SNP thing and they used that money for other SNP things, would you be arsed? If it's going to the SNP in the first place, you're clearly happy to financially support the SNP.
    Are you mad? Lots of people hate the SNP and just want independence so yes if I'd have contributed to the independence movement specifically and they spent it on something else I'd be livid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    Are you mad? Lots of people hate the SNP and just want independence so yes if I'd have contributed to the independence movement specifically and they spent it on something else I'd be livid.
    Can you not read?

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    Having just gone through South America where every fucking street corner and lamp post has 100 political posters and ads on it, I'm happy for there to be punitively strict campaign finance law over here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Can you not read?
    I read you talking shite.

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    He looks, more than anyone else I've ever seen, like a baby has been cleverly dressed up, made up and photographed to make it look like it's in its fifties.

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    That's one of those AI images I keep hearing about and nobody will convince me otherwise.

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    Raab gone, resigned. I'm quite surprised at that so the report must have uncovered some proper twattish stuff.

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    And in his resignation letter claims that the bar for bullying has been set too low. Classy.

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    What a cunt.

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    My work had to endure an all-day bullying workshop because a manager told a young woman to 'use a bit of common sense'. By the sounds of it the man did nothing wrong, and these departments could do with all the whingers flushing out.

    'Mate. You didn't Communicate and Influence. You need to See the Bigger Picture mate.'

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    If the threshold for bullying claims is low and he got cleared of all but two charges, surely that implies he barely bullied anyone.

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    Since when should we take his word for it that the threshold is too low? It's not like he's got a good track record of being genuine.

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    You can read the report. It's literally people bealing that he wanted good work out of them and finding his hand gestures aggressive because he's in decent shape.

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    The report may well be a whitewash as these things tend to be but there's really bugger all in it.

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    So why’s he resigned then? Patel breached the Ministerial Code over bullying and survived. Raab fucked up big on Afghanistan and survived. Clearly something is up.

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    He's probably just had enough and wants to go back to making money for a living. Coming from his background into having to deal with the civil service must be extremely frustrating. Bit too much of a culture clash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    He's probably just had enough and wants to go back to making money for a living. Coming from his background into having to deal with the civil service must be extremely frustrating. Bit too much of a culture clash.
    He hasn't resigned as an MP, has he?

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    In his BBC interview he is a bit shifty about whether he will contest the next election, which means he probably won't. Saying the civil service has a 'passive-aggressive culture' is a great line. Government by useless women, for useless women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    He hasn't resigned as an MP, has he?
    Nah, but he can see the way the wind is blowing and he's had his time at or near the top.

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    Just heard his response to BBC on radio. What a don.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    Since when should we take his word for it that the threshold is too low? It's not like he's got a good track record of being genuine.
    "Back in my day"

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    His seat (mine) is history anyway, Lib Dems will win easily regardless of any of this, as they will win all similar seats in the area, some with vastly greater swings. Bores in the media will talk it up as a 'Portillo moment' but whereas that was a shock, this is a complete 100% certainty.

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    I see Diane Abbott is still brain dead, which is nice.

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    Her mistake seems to have been providing crap examples, rather than merely saying racism against black people is the worst racism, because quite a lot of people believe that. I'm not sure how the letter was anti-Semitic, but maybe I am for not seeing it. I think she would easily retain her seat as an independent, and presumably won't want to end her career being drummed out of politics over some bad racism, so that might be lol if her and Wor Jezza coast home as 'Real Labour' or whatever.

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    North London Labour.

    They can run a candidate against Thornberry in islington South.

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    I think, if you were opined this way, you could make an argument that colour-based racism is a bigger problem in the UK than that faced by non-British white groups, but she is far too thick to make it coherently. It's always a tell when people refer to American segregation or Apartheid decades ago, rather than examples from contemporary Britain, which to the internationalist left is a sort of irrelevant backwater.

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    Wouldn't anything with 'Labour' on the ticket struggle to get past the Electoral Commission on similarity grounds if there is expected to be a contest? Does that old Bob Crow socialist/trade union vehicle still have an office and a phoneline?

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    I'd have a run at 'Layber'.

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    "My victimhood is worse than your victimhood" is the type of shit a 16 year old says on TikTok for clout, no politician should be wasting their time on that nonsense.

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    The Beeb chairman is gone.

    It's all unravelling pretty quickly for anyone even remotely connected to that Boris era.

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    I wonder which entirely impartial individual they'll replace e him with.

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    Just saw someone I went to school with on Newsnight, apparently standing in the local elections in Stoke* for the Greens, which was a bit .

    Or perhaps I should say "woke-on-trent" if you listen to what their Conservative MP has to say for himself [seriously, where do they find these people?].

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    I've taken none of the leaflets in but I guess it's the standard tick in the Labour box from me.

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    All three candidates here (Con, LD and Res - it isn't worth Labour wasting a deposit) have the same headline policy, which is get the illegal gypo boats off the Thames. I can't say I've noticed these maritime caravans but the sentiment is spot on so I'll be putting a cross in all three boxes.

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    I voted Labour, increasing the number of votes they'll get here by around 20%.

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    It'll be Labour from me, in a parting gift to the ward as I'll be gone by the end of the month. I did consider the alternative, but his leaflet had a car selfie and that just ain't it, chief.

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    Are your council elections FPTP or STV?

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    Everything in England is FPTP apart from the London mayor I think.

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    In Windsor, the first of the really relevant 'blue wall' areas to declare fully, Cons went from 23 to 7 seats and LDs went from 9 to 22. I don't think anyone has priced in just how much the Tories have alienated their base in the 'nicer' areas of the country and how utterly comfortable Lib Dem success will be there come the GE, to the point where they might even get back to some kind of parliamentary relevance as they had before 2015.

    They're a bunch of nimby twats, but the Tories are so toxic now everywhere outside the most hard right value sets. They've probably eroded down to just the people who want the death penalty back.

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    Inevitably there were a few stories in the papers about folk being turned away from polling stations "in tears" because they didn't bring ID. Those affected seemed overwhelmingly old, so a nice own goal from the Tories there in their genuine quest to tackle the one instance of voter fraud.

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    I don't really understand that as a vote suppression tactic. Any widespread voter fraud that there is will be in your Tower Hamlets etc full of Pakistanis (sorry racist police but it's just the truth), and the Tories are never going to win there in a million years anyway, so as you say it strikes me as just upsetting the unbreakable routines of the old.

    I'm a bit torn on it, I think it's stupid and unnecessary, but once it's been brought in I have zero sympathy for people who live their lives in a haze and have been ignorant of the many prompts to bring ID.

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    23% turnout here.

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    Looking around I see North Norfolk has Con +5 and LD -6. What a country we are.

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    Another observation from the radio reports this morning is that both Sunak and Starmer sound like utter gimps as disemodied voices.

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