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  • Jeremy Corbyn's Labour

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  • 2 people's Greens

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  • Nicholas Durgeon's Scottish Nationalists

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Thread: UK General Election 2017 - 8 June

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    They said it was a "younger male" he was inappropriate to on the radio this morning. Unless this was a different one, wouldn't be surprising. Although why would Mel B be at the Tory party conference?

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    Bit racist.

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    It's admirable how much Lewis will defend the Tories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    It's admirable how much Lewis will defend the Tories.
    Not sure "admirable" would be my choice of word.

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    Bit ableist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    No more than we were last month, for all of the instant screeching. We'll just continue the decline, shovel more and more of a dwindling GDP into the health service, and then wake up one day and realise we're a middle income country. The 'sensible' Labour Party won't do anything different by the way. They will just set the clock to the day before David Cameron called the referendum and get an easier ride off of Twitter.
    With this and the previous posts you're effectively saying it doesn't actually matter what she does from your perspective as as far as you're concerned we won't be any worse off either way.

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    Can Best Poster awards be revoked?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    With this and the previous posts you're effectively saying it doesn't actually matter what she does from your perspective as as far as you're concerned we won't be any worse off either way.
    How have you read that? I'm saying that we are in, and will remain in, terminal decline unless she does something. I just don't think that it was her tax cuts that has put us there ('killing the country' lol). I'm also not sure how I'm 'defend[ing] the Tories' when I'm blaming them in large part for this decline.

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    It's your stubborn refusal to accept that as things stand she's made the situation worse that causes the problem.

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    Now, if she was about to release a series of actual measures that would "get us moving", fine, but amongst all the tangibly bad things she's done, it's clear as day that her and her advisors are idiots (not understanding her tax cuts would spook the markets, thinking touring local radio would be a good idea, not understanding that she wouldn't get one of her tax cuts through the house of commons), so on all available evidence, I really don't hold out much hope and we're clearly not in a situation where we have the time to be waiting.

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    I don't suppose the last week has helped (although the next ones might), but it isn't making or breaking thirty years of poor government either. It's a pretty hysterical mindset, and thinking that 1) it was this week is wot done it; and 2) that just putting somebody 'sensible' in office will sort everything, points to not having any long-term sense of anything or anything to come.

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    1) The last week has been a catastrophe, she's brought forward mortgage rate rises (that we were admittedly going to get) by about 9 months.

    2) What are you seeing in Truss that suggests she'd be better than a sensible choice that literally no one else can see?

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    I’m enjoying Lewis’ transformation into GS.

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    Her main idiocy is thinking that income tax is what stops growth. It isn't. America didn't get where they are by having low taxes, they did it by having basically no competition (thanks again WW2) and by basically letting big business do whatever they want. Removing / ignoring / not creating regulations that stop them from ruining the air, the water, the ground and the people around them, because $$$.

    I think it's also a bit of a con to suggest that growth is the answer to what's going on. Growth makes the rich richer. It doesn't "trickle down". But, if you really want to shoot for growth, then wage reform would do far more than tax reform ever could. An economy cannot grow when 80% of the population have no disposable income and depend on ever increasing debt to fund essentials.
    Last edited by Spikey M; 08-10-2022 at 10:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    1) The last week has been a catastrophe, she's brought forward mortgage rate rises (that we were admittedly going to get) by about 9 months.

    2) What are you seeing in Truss that suggests she'd be better than a sensible choice that literally no one else can see?
    I'll judge her based on the rest of her reforms package, which hopefully contain the sort of drastic changes that most 'sensible' politicians - the type bealing about her in the newspapers - can't even recognise that we need. If they don't then she is crap, but the country will still need massive changes.

    Say what you will about the Corbyn people, but at least they recognise[d] that there are major issues with the way the country is run. The 'middle ground' is happy with the country rotting as long as they can go back to parading its skin suit at European summits.

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    I see Suella Braverman wants to make cannabis a class A drug now.

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    If we really wanted to get the economy moving we could do far worse than legalising it.

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    And having read her take, Jesus fuck. Honestly, what are these people on?

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    Coke.

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    I would happily legalise every other drug but still ban cannabis on smell grounds.

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    Sturgeon is hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    If we really wanted to get the economy moving we could do far worse than legalising it.
    Completelt agree, almost included the same sentiment in that post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    I would happily legalise every other drug but still ban cannabis on smell grounds.
    Just legalise edibles. It is quite mental that the government could corner the market on this properly and make a mint, solve a crime issue and address a health issue for people who want it for medicinal reasons but are instead leaning the other way. Even the mental yanks are softening on it.

    You can legally buy medicinal cannbis right now if you jump through enough hoops, delivered to your door by DPD. It is expensive though by all accounts.

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    Medical Cannabis is easily accessible in Brisbane they will even deliver it to my door.

    It will be legalised within the next year or so down here.
    Last edited by Queenslander; 10-10-2022 at 06:45 AM.

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    It's legal here and half the island are on it.

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    Is that good?

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    Only if you don't money.

    And retirement.

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    I don't money IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    I don't money IMO.
    You are money.

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    I don't LIKE money right now either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    You are money.
    I can money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    I can money.
    I've see your portfolio. You can't.

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    This will be what takes her down if anything. If she can’t control this and rates push up to 7/8% bearing in mind the base rate is currently only 2.25% with more rate rises to come she is cooked.

    She either needs to tell the BoE not to raise rates and live with the inflation or pull back on all the spending. But she won’t do either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    I've see your portfolio. You can't.
    Missed the word 'lose'.

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    Tories of old would be sharpening the knives by this point.

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    They've gone through so many iterations now that all the knife-sharpeners have themselves been knifed.

    Boris comeback would be hilarious.

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    Speaking with some Americans and the BBC came up and I was thinking about it. Why exactly do the Tories fundamentally want to destroy the BBC? I don't quite get it. It's been around forever so it's traditional, it's famous around the world so gives prestige and cultural attache to Britain, it can be used to disseminate propaganda at home and abroad and it's 50 quid a year. Is it just the Tory media not wanting to compete against the Beeb and so it got culture warred?

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    They want to destroy all soft power influence for reasons.

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    It's because they see it as left wing and biased against them. In a certain sense, they are right, because it is. However, that they are wrong to believe that to be a bad thing.

    You'll notice that when Tories complain about the BBC, it is always the news that they complain about, not the rest (vast majority) of its output.

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    If the BBC is left wing they're sitting like here at best.


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    The left complain the BBC are too far right and the right complain the BBC are too far left and that is the best argument anyone can make for keeping it.

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    At least it's not people's lives at stake

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    Critics moan that parliament is full of children – and next week it certainly will be. For Mr S has learned of a new scheme to champion Westminster's outreach efforts across the country. The UK Youth Parliament for 11 to 18 year olds was one thing; now Tory MP Anna Firth is hosting the first in-person 'Children’s Parliament Select Committee' for those even younger.

    For next Monday London and Southend school pupils between the ages of seven to eleven will descend on Portcullis House to ask the tough questions of various water companies. Anglian Water, Southern Water and other related businesses are expected to be there and can expect a grilling on sewage, sustainability and leakage reduction. Good luck to the Paxmans of primary school...

    The event will also see the launch of a Children’s Parliament APPG. Firth is spearheading the scheme, partly to honour her predecessor, Sir David Amess, the MP for Southend West cruelly murdered last October. She told Mr S: 'I am determined to build upon his legacy' adding 'I think our youngsters debating the issues of the day in Westminster will resonate with everyone and give the children an experience they will never forget.'
    That's it, I'm done. Fuck Southend and fuck off.

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    The same left wing BBC that mocked up Corbyn in a Russian hat and asked him the morning after the Manchester bombing if that gave him an advantage in the election. Righto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    That's it, I'm done. Fuck Southend and fuck off.
    Don't worry Jim, I'm sure the Children of Surrey will get the opportunity to grill Agricultural Commission or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    The same left wing BBC that mocked up Corbyn in a Russian hat and asked him the morning after the Manchester bombing if that gave him an advantage in the election. Righto.
    The bias is liberal rather than left, which irks Tories equally (because they are neither of those things), but also irks the barricade shouty crew.

    Keir Starmer would be a dream PM for BBC heads. Tony Blair was one until he palled up with dubya. Gordon Brown they didn't like because he was too intellectual/introverted and not at home in cool circles like they imagine their own to be.

    W1A a good filofax on this stuff.
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    She's gonna u-turn. Hahahahahaha.

    Whatcha sayin' now Lewis?

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    It's actually Jeremy Corbyn/Ukraine's fault obviously.

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