Theresa May's Conservatives
Jeremy Corbyn's Labour
Tim Farron's Liberal Democrats
Paul Nuttall's UKIP
2 people's Greens
Nicholas Durgeon's Scottish Nationalists
Satan's Sinn Fein
Dr Ian Paisley's DUP
Some other bunch of nonces
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Badenoch or Bust (literally).
Have the Tories ever had such a weak and all-round uninspiring list of contenders?
All of the other times?
I dunno. All the previous ones have had some sort of prodigy or new hope (eg. Dave, Boris) or at least a load of seasoned veterans.
This one has Hunt who probably has no hope and Sunak who has the stink of being in charge of a stagflating economy; the rest of them are either genuinely idiotic or nothingness.
I suppose this is better than the unopposed Michael Howard contest but that’s not a high bar. Labour calling a no confidence vote will be fun; the Tories aren’t going to go for it because they’ll get steamrollered in a GE so lets see how the Tory papers spin them propping up the guy they conspired to oust just a week ago.
Boris isn't a prodigy. He's a savant.
That’s why I slid new hope in there, which he certainly was. He took them from floundering to smashing the “Red Wall” in no time at all. Obviously he’s a blustering charlatan but he made the right noises at the time, which I guess is what I’m getting at here in that the current contest doesn’t seem to be.
1965 was the missed opportunity.
Lewis doesn’t come across as the type to vote for a party with a hobbit as their leader. I’m expecting a change of allegiance soon.
Noticed pensioners moaning Sunak robbed their pensions so he's doomed in a GE if that is their groupthink.
I think Sunak will lose the run-off, whether it's Mordaunt or Truss.
He might beat Tugendhat or might not.
From what I gather the MP's will vote Sunak but if/when it goes to the Tory membership, he has little chance hence trying to fix it so he's up against someone like Hunt.
Did I hear correctly that Zahawi was recommending Boris for a role in the cabinet?
Is he trying to lose?
TTH meet on September 6th.
If i was there I think I’d vote Mordaunt. She’s the only one who isn’t either mental or robotic. The likes of Truss and Sunak are dead behind the eyes, like they’re reading from a script. Mordaunt at least sounds human.
Theresa May 2.0.
Has anyone ever appointed an ex-PM in their cabinet?Originally Posted by Yevrah
Hague was Foreign Sec. for Cameron was he not?
The last one was Alex Douglas-Home, who was Foreign Secretary under Ted Heath, and Arthur Balfour came back as Foreign Secretary in the First World War coalition. It was presumably a bit more common before that but no idea without looking.
I'd make him Health Secretary, then sit back and lol at my twitter feed for the next six months.
Make him SoS for NI so he has to deal with all the NI Protocol fallout.
Having seen the result at 5 I guess Zahawi knew he was going out this morning and torched his bid to keep favour with Johnson. He’s such a snake.
Shocked that Hunt only got 18 votes when you’ve got complete morons like Braverman through to the next round.
The wait goes on for Prime Minister Hunt.
Considering how much of a barrel scraping exercise this is I have my doubts that I'll ever see the day.
He's a bit Olympiakos. Always in the hat but rarely a serious factor.
A shifty snake with a dodgy background.
It speaks volumes that you'd have to highlight that you're referring to Zahawai given the statement above could be attached to pretty much every single one of them.
I'm no Tory and they are a huge problem but Labour and the like aren't the solution either so we're all pretty much fucked I reckon.
Kemi 'Nigerian Badass' Badenoch will be the leader of the Conservative Party in 2025. It's just whether they want to lose an election first.
If/when they lose the next election, I'm pretty sure they'll not be winning one for a fair while no matter who the leader is.
Nah. That requires Labour to get their shit together AND keep it together for a term of government.
I'm not so sure. I won't pretend to know or have a clue but I suspect that a huge amount of voters whether left/right/whatever just won't forget about the things this current government and by default Conservative party has done. I spoke with a number of lifelong Tories back when I did the campaigning stuff who'd never go back to them, people who lost loved ones won't forget the scandals, people who are on the breadline won't forget the cost of living currently, a situation that's going to explode massively in the near future too. I don't think enough people actually realise that the shit hasn't hit the fan yet in that respect.
Forty thousand '[Bad]Enoch was Right' badges on their way for when the country collapses.
"I was gonna vote Labour but then I remembered he made Jimmy Saville happen."
It doesn't really matter how bad the Tories are. The SNP are taking up pretty much all of Labour's traditional seats north of the border and that will continue until they get given a referendum, which the Tories are double-insentivised to deny them.
Then there's the left being divided amongst Labour and the Greens, and the Centre left Labour voters rushing to the Lib Dems.
Unless Labour get their shit together and find a new - and un-war crime blemished - Tony Blair type down the back of the Sofa, they aren't getting anywhere near government.
Even in Boris Johnsons dying days Starmer was only something like 5% ahead of him in the approval ratings.
Corbyn forced May into bed with the DUP despite the SNP problem but he was the shittest leader Labour ever had apparently
Then what happened?
Brexit Britain happened.
Everything is Corbyn’s fault.
"Marty, we have to go back in time and hire the other Miliband."
Or just take the bacon sandwich off Ed.
Corbyn/left wing fans have such selective memories. Not only is he the worst leader they have ever had, he is also the worst leader they could ever conceivably have. He managed to plunge below Michael Foot's seat total even with a Brexit divide magically opening up all the university towns for him.
Half of students don't vote.
They managed to get Nicky Cleggers into a Coalition government. Students vote en masse when you get them going.
I think the situation has a lot to do with it. Obviously his reaction to Salisbury tanked his popularity (he was polling absolutely fine until then) but reverse roles where Corbyn is the pro-Brexit guy and the Tories are peddling Remain (like their ideologies would have dictated) then we’d have had a different outcome in 2017. The media were absolutely shitting it at the prospect; who can forget this gem of a smear attempt:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...showed-craved/
Corbyn only became “the worst ever” after he doubled down in the later stages of his leadership but the alternative (and most logical) timeline would have avoided that entirely.
Wait til you see what Starmer returns with the SNP sweeping Scotland and a presumably none moron Tory PM.
Starmer will do much better than Corbyn, he doesn't actively scare away anyone who isn't a true believer. That's what Jez did. He also boosted the Tory vote in places like where I live as people who might otherwise have voted Lib Dem were scared that they would do a deal with Corbyn's Labour. LDs doing a deal with Starmer's Labour is a much more benign prospect.
I have no idea what drives votes in Scotland and I'm not sure they do either.
They've held Canterbury since 2017 which is mental. Even Blair in '97 didn't win that, though he did win in hundreds of other seats where Labour are now dead for various reasons.
Ed Miliband was a worse leader than Corbyn, who was ultimately just killed by Brexit and having to keep his unique coalition of cathedral city millionaires and retards together. Miliband did nothing for five years.
He came up with the energy price cap, a truly visionary idea.
He offered Austerity Lite which was pointless, if you are in favour of Austerity why would you vote for a half measure.
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