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  • Theresa May's Conservatives

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  • Jeremy Corbyn's Labour

    23 52.27%
  • Tim Farron's Liberal Democrats

    3 6.82%
  • Paul Nuttall's UKIP

    0 0%
  • 2 people's Greens

    1 2.27%
  • Nicholas Durgeon's Scottish Nationalists

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  • Satan's Sinn Fein

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  • Dr Ian Paisley's DUP

    0 0%
  • Some other bunch of nonces

    2 4.55%
  • I'm foreign, but I wish I were an Englishman

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Thread: UK General Election 2017 - 8 June

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    Yep. Unless you're just blind to all things Tory I genuinely can't see how anyone could come to the conclusion that all this shit is fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Two possibilities:

    a) Sue Gray has found something even worse than what's been disclosed and that has passed the threshold for the police to want to investigate
    b) someone has politicked the police into investigating in the hope/expectation that such an investigation will delay Sue Gray's report

    It's all very Thick of It, just need Julius Nicholson to stick his oar in.
    Definitely B. Kicks the Sue Gray can to a time where the nation is balls deep in something else (wars, fuel costs).

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    While I'd favour b as most likely, why would you touch that if you're the police? You're either going to be left with a whitewash or prosecuting the PM, not a great situation for them either way.

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    Isn't it their job?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    Isn't it their job?
    It is indeed and also was a month or so ago when all this kicked off.

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    I wouldn't entirely rule out A, since the statement says they received evidence from the Cabinet Office (where Sue Gray is a permanent secretary).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    While I'd favour b as most likely, why would you touch that if you're the police? You're either going to be left with a whitewash or prosecuting the PM, not a great situation for them either way.
    The commissioner's job is a political appointment. They report to the Home Secretary. So if Patel especially is the one ordering an investigation, Dick might not have an option.

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    C final answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Yep. Unless you're just blind to all things Tory I genuinely can't see how anyone could come to the conclusion that all this shit is fine.
    It's not 'fine', but conflating it with actual parties is a bit daft. If this all drags into the summer then that would be much better timing for replacing him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    It's not 'fine', but conflating it with actual parties is a bit daft. If this all drags into the summer then that would be much better timing for replacing him.
    That's absolutely their intention. They've got cost-of-living hikes to come in April, local election defeats in May, and now possibly a shitshow with Russia. It would benefit the Party to attach them all to Boris, throw him under the bus, then the new leader has a clean slate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    It's not 'fine', but conflating it with actual parties is a bit daft. If this all drags into the summer then that would be much better timing for replacing him.
    Getting pissed up in a garden is a party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    That's absolutely their intention. They've got cost-of-living hikes to come in April, local election defeats in May, and now possibly a shitshow with Russia. It would benefit the Party to attach them all to Boris, throw him under the bus, then the new leader has a clean slate.
    They'll never get away with the government essentially not functioning until then.

    I've never seen a politician exhibit the level of desperation that Boris is displaying here. It's not as if he's going to do anything with the extra time, or has any plans for his premiership whatsoever. There is no actual policy attached to 'Levelling Up', there is no other programme for government, nothing. He's just trying to cling on for history books reasons and to save Carrie's status or whatever.

    It's also entirely self-inflicted by his repeated previous inability to make a decision.

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    Quite funny that the last two [surprise] majority Conservative PMs have basically blown themselves up within a short time of taking office.

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    Largely because they spend far too much time trying to manage a party which is full of absolute thicko dipshits, and far too little time having any ideas whatsoever about how to govern the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    That's absolutely their intention. They've got cost-of-living hikes to come in April, local election defeats in May, and now possibly a shitshow with Russia. It would benefit the Party to attach them all to Boris, throw him under the bus, then the new leader has a clean slate.
    Plus any remaining pandemic aggro. All the media speculation about canning him now is either because they're too stupid to consider this, or they do know it and want the new guy shittered as well.

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    You two give them all far too much credit with all this cloak and daggers shit; they are just retards.

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    The problem the Conservative Party have is that they don't have anyone with any credibility ready to replace Johnson. Sunak seems competent but is relatively new to politics, Jeremy Hunt has been involved in scandals in the past and probably has too close an association to Cameron and May, Raab is incompetent, Michael Gove is very divisive and I cannot imagine Liz Truss leading the country. Sajid Javid is probably the most competent of the frontrunners I reckon.

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    Saj is the nicest guy, but lacks heft. It will be Sunak unless he fucks it up. He's at least bright enough to take the fight to what will be an at least somewhat resurgent Labour.

    Jeremy Hunt is weird as fuck, so is Gove, Truss is a joke (I think the people talking her up must just fancy her), and Raab has looked for some time like he's being held there at gunpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Truss is a joke (I think the people talking her up must just fancy her)
    She looks like she has foetal alcohol syndrome.


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    Look, don't ask me of all people to explain that shit. People fancied Maggie Thatcher.

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    It looks like Cress has fucked them by saying she has no objection to the Sue Gray report being published now. lol.

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    I’d have took Thatcher straight up the wrong’un. She’d have loved it too, the po-faced slag.

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    The fact that Jacob Rees-Mogg appears to have become this government's Paul Boateng figure surely points to trolling on an epic scale by someone or other.

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    If the sexuality of my last few girlfriends is anything to go by, I could have made The Old Lady turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Saj is the nicest guy, but lacks heft. It will be Sunak unless he fucks it up. He's at least bright enough to take the fight to what will be an at least somewhat resurgent Labour.

    Jeremy Hunt is weird as fuck, so is Gove, Truss is a joke (I think the people talking her up must just fancy her), and Raab has looked for some time like he's being held there at gunpoint.
    Agreed on Gove, to the extent that I doubt that he is actually human. Raab is a weird one, he has a seriously impressive CV yet comes across as one of the dumbest people in politics.

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    He's my MP, he's a twat. I think he gets stage fright. Probably a good lawyer or whatever.

    I haven't yet forgiven him for one day deciding to abseil off the top of my local church, in perhaps the most bizarre Partridge/Rebecca Murray stunt I've seen attempted in real life.

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    Sunak is far too small to ever be a PM. Boris would have a better chance turning things around than him.

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    Stalin was the same height as Sunak.

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    Everyone was a manlet back then. The Lancaster Bomber was built for a maximum height of 5' 8" or something similarly dwarfy.

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    Why do tall folk seem to care so much about height?

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    Jacob Rees-Mogg now saying we have 'effectively a presidential system', in order to argue that the PM cannot be changed except via general election. I guess he will have to be the one to inform Her Maj that she is now effectively not the head of state.

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    We had a guy in my last job who was about 6'4 and was totally one of those who took pride in him having accidentally been born as a tall person. Fortunately he had freakishly small hands for a man of his size and was incapable of taking a joke about it so whenever he mentioned it you'd just lol at his hands and shut him down.

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    Spikey reaching like a proper dwarf himself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Jacob Rees-Mogg now saying we have 'effectively a presidential system', in order to argue that the PM cannot be changed except via general election. I guess he will have to be the one to inform Her Maj that she is now effectively not the head of state.
    The vast number of nonsense reasons he shouldn't go coming out is impressive.

    Poor Boris, victim of a cake-ambushing that he is.

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    Thought Rees-Mogg's "you might say ambuscade" opening gambit on Newsnight last night was beyond parody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Why do tall folk seem to care so much about height?
    Why do strangers feel the need to come up to me in the street and tell me I'm tall?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    Stalin was the same height as Sunak.
    Sunak is no more than 5ft4. I’m not having the internet tell me otherwise

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    The vast number of nonsense reasons he shouldn't go coming out is impressive.

    Poor Boris, victim of a cake-ambushing that he is.
    The problem is, he will genuinely believe he's done nothing wrong. I know these Etonians. The lack of self-awareness is not just a trait, it's the core of what they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    Spikey reaching like a proper dwarf himself
    Sorry lad, couldn't hear you up here.

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    Among all the 'lol i wish i could get ambushed with cake!' stuff (which I do find relatable) this is the best response I've seen so far:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    Why do strangers feel the need to come up to me in the street and tell me I'm tall?
    Only barely stopped myself doing this the other day. Was in the supermarket and this woman came round the corner with her pram. Few seconds later her partner followed and fucking hell he was the tallest person I've ever seen in real life by far. He was a veritable giant. The words "fuck me you're tall" almost tumbled out of my mouth but I caught myself just in time.

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    While we wait for Sue Gray's report, enter stage left another report which confirms the PM ordered dog man and his dogs to go on the plane back from Kabul ahead of others.

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    Dogs > Afghans in the eyes of his voters, so that’s not at all damning for him.

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    Where do Afghan Hounds fall in the pecking order?

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    That was so bad I've forgiven Boris.

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    Liz Truss having to defend her use of a government plane to Australia's is a bit annoying. There's some shit a foreign secretary might be looking over that could be a little compromised on a passenger flight. You're probably still working on stuff before touchdown.

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    Not to mention you're the Foreign Secretary visiting a friend and ally on important business. Do other serious countries lose it over private/first class travel?

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    I remember the green mob losing their shit over China attending COP26 via Skype, so presumably they value face to face physical meetings over reducing airtravel.

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