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  • Theresa May's Conservatives

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  • Jeremy Corbyn's Labour

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    3 6.82%
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  • 2 people's Greens

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  • Nicholas Durgeon's Scottish Nationalists

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Thread: UK General Election 2017 - 8 June

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    That's what all the parties are for everyone involved. You think Alastair Darling is Labour? Bollocks is he, you just can't make a political career as a Tory in Scotland. Similarly, round here the local Tory parties are packed full of busybody lefties.

    Ideology is for children and wankers, so I'm quite happy with that setup.

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    Do you think the media or the Lib Dem’s have realised that they have no chance of doing anything because that whole generation (that’s probably largely remain) that voted for them in the coalition days will never, never go near them again?

    Fool me once...

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    Binning a referendum result on a parliamentary majority won with something like thirty-five per cent would be another interesting one for the electoral reformers.

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    Trying to work out how they could screw this one if they did win.

    I voted for no tuition fees and got them tripled. Vote for remain and end up part of the GRCC?

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    1. Win a majority
    2. Second referendum on the principle of electoral reform
    3. Third referendum on which system to use ('No mandate for Hard PR')
    4. General election
    5. PROGRESSIVE MAJORITY
    6. Revoke Article 50

    You could presumably manage that in five years.

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    The public will never vote for any form of electoral reform. They'll have to legislate it themselves.

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    Boris excelling himself again today I see.

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    Proper smalltime that. Plus he then said that he prioritised the single market over the Good Friday Agreement, before moving on to conflating the two, which suggests he either doesn't understand the latter or realised he had inadvertently let slip that their policy is to pretend it says things that it doesn't. Not a bad hour's work for a country whose defence we subsidise.

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    Luxembourg being so at the heart of Europe always amazes and amuses me in equal measure. It's a glorified petrol station which siphons all the tax out of the big EU nations. Having to sit down and talk to their leader is akin to having to talk to our political leaders which is, I believe, outsourced to the lowest of the low MPs on the career development ladder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Proper smalltime that. Plus he then said that he prioritised the single market over the Good Friday Agreement, before moving on to conflating the two, which suggests he either doesn't understand the latter or realised he had inadvertently let slip that their policy is to pretend it says things that it doesn't. Not a bad hour's work for a country whose defence we subsidise.
    Genuinely didn't know who that was about until the final sentence.

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    I must say Chuka's 'what we believe in!' speech to the lib dem conference really pulled at the heart strings.

    I can only imagine Robbie Keane is penciled in for their general election campaign as he's undoubtedly supported them since he was a boy.

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    It shows how far the shambles has gone that we can be so easily embarrassed by Luxembourg.

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    He's a fucking moron isn't he?

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    Cameron or Peston?

    Can't really get my head around this court case business. They've obviously done the proroguing with an eye to pissing off the remain lobby/for badness, but they've also done it under the guise of a completely legitimate reason and I find it hard to see how it is possible to both become involved in the issue and *ahem* remain politically impartial. At this point I half think Deadly Dom and co want to lose this case to further paint this as an establishment versus the leave campaign/people situation (although I tend to lean more to this being [a series of] colossal fuck-up[s] of judgment rather than some overarching masterplan).

    Parliament really should have seized control and chucked the government out when it had the chance. I'm not sure its for the courts to act when the supreme legislative body abdicates it's own powers of intervention (to the extent that it has, they still have that law that was rushed through).

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    Peston, 'hes chosen his timing well'. Mate, you've literally released books, you should know how this works.

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    I've done my best to avoid reading about this 'Supreme Court' stuff, but it was on the telly when I was in the gym earlier, and it seems to me that the government's case is basically 'Yeah we lied, but you lot can't judge it either way'. Is that right? It seems like the best argument. If they start defining what it's 'reasonable' for a government to do then we're into all sorts of shit.

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    If the remain side loses they should do the ultimate troll and appeacl to the ECJ.

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    Why do we have a Supreme Court? Is it another legacy of Tony Blair wishing he was the president of America?

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    It is weird how little we think about the courts considering America has made a couple decades of television off them. Only one I can think of over here is the absolutely ludicrous Judge John Deed.


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    Martin Shaw used to live near me, and some mental old woman with pink hair starting stalking him. He had to get a restraining order.

    EDIT: Lol I didn't realise it made the news

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...-campaign.html

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    We had Kavanagh QC as well which was Inspector Morse but in court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Why do we have a Supreme Court? Is it another legacy of Tony Blair wishing he was the president of America?
    It was an inevitability after Derry Irvine ordered all that ludicrously expensive wallpaper. So, in a way, yes.

    All the anachronistic shit to do with the judiciary was for the wall after that.

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    lol at how 'Jolyon the Lawyer' speaks. Does he speak like that because he's a twat, or is he a twat because he speaks like that? We'll never know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    I've done my best to avoid reading about this 'Supreme Court' stuff, but it was on the telly when I was in the gym earlier, and it seems to me that the government's case is basically 'Yeah we lied, but you lot can't judge it either way'. Is that right? It seems like the best argument. If they start defining what it's 'reasonable' for a government to do then we're into all sorts of shit.
    Not really but it might as well be.

    I've watched quite a lot of it and the definite highlight was the bumbling idiot from Northern Ireland this morning. He was having such a bad day at the office. Imagine hiring a QC and getting him. The shouty twat 'on behalf of Wales' wasn't much better but at least he went at it with a bit of gusto. Pannick and Eadie the class of the field, although that was probably known beforehand.

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    What in the fuck are Labour doing?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49776100

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    Getting rid of a wrecking cunt.

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    Or alternatively, the Corbyn Cult have decided that they will not tolerate any dissenting views from the Dear Leader.

    Labour don't exist any more, it's a hard left cult devoted to the Glorious Dear Leader.

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    Tom Watson is a total wanker and should (maybe would in an election?) have his credibility shredded over that whole paedogeddon thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byron View Post
    Or alternatively, the Corbyn Cult have decided that they will not tolerate any dissenting views from the Dear Leader.

    Labour don't exist any more, it's a hard left cult devoted to the Glorious Dear Leader.
    They'd have clearly identifiable positions on things if that was the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byron View Post
    Or alternatively, the Corbyn Cult have decided that they will not tolerate any dissenting views from the Dear Leader.

    Labour don't exist any more, it's a hard left cult devoted to the Glorious Dear Leader.
    Hang on. Johnson removed the whip from what, 21 MPs, for one vote against him. Watson has been constantly briefing the media against Corbyn for the past few years (and he doesn't do his job for his actual shadow cabinet post). There can be dissenting views but there are ways to go about it. Constantly going bitching to the media trying to make the leader of the party (democratically elected by its members - twice) look as bad as possible is not it.

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    That is a very strange post from Byron. Maybe sit out from this thread, bud.

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    I think a few people in the Labour bubble probably underestimate how vastly unpopular Corbyn is in huge chunks of the country.

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    Where are these chunks?

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    Everywhere that doesn't have a mine.

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    That's nowt to do with Corbyn, to be fair. Anyone could lead Labour and they'd still vote to 'keep the Tories out'.

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    This Labour Brexit stuff is fucking embarrassing.

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    See also: Labour in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    This Labour Brexit stuff is fucking embarrassing.
    It’s absolutely ridiculous and symptomatic of Corbyn being shit. A united approach and they’d have a much better chance of challenging the government, but that is too much it seems.

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    32 hour working week, good luck with that one, comrades.

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    As long as my wage stays the same I'd vote for that.

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    Who needs money, there wouldn't be any food to buy anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    It’s absolutely ridiculous and symptomatic of Corbyn being shit. A united approach and they’d have a much better chance of challenging the government, but that is too much it seems.
    Too much of a pussy to piss off the commies and their fucking stupid 'Lexit' ideas so chooses not to make a decision.

    Easy to be politically brave as a backbencher, what a coward.

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    4 day weeks, shutting down (nationalising?) independent schools, an end to the fundamental protection of private property, I wouldn't worry too much about their brexit position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Too much of a pussy to piss off the commies and their fucking stupid 'Lexit' ideas so chooses not to make a decision.
    How have you concluded that's the reason why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    4 day weeks, shutting down (nationalising?) independent schools, an end to the fundamental protection of private property, I wouldn't worry too much about their brexit position.


    Where was that one?

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    I work 4 10's and I have to say they're glorious

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    How have you concluded that's the reason why?
    Because if he believed in those people he would shut down the remain lot which he’s also not doing. Once again because he’s a giant pussy. The thesis works either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post


    Where was that one?
    The if you rent a place long enough you can buy it policy they announced the other day.

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    He needs votes to get in, the old left/right divisions have been replaced by leave/remain ones and Jezza is trying to straddle them. It's been the Milne strategy from the very start and it allowed them to lose the 2017 election more respectably than they might otherwise have done.

    If he makes a clear decision either way he will lose loads of voters to BxP/LD respectively in different areas (maybe some to the Tories also).

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