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  • Theresa May's Conservatives

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  • Jeremy Corbyn's Labour

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  • Tim Farron's Liberal Democrats

    3 6.82%
  • Paul Nuttall's UKIP

    0 0%
  • 2 people's Greens

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  • Nicholas Durgeon's Scottish Nationalists

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  • Dr Ian Paisley's DUP

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Thread: UK General Election 2017 - 8 June

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    No, I just can't read:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000stjf

    Angela Eagle.

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    Why is she on the telly like it's 2011?

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    The tories have been talking about putting it up and Starmer is against it.

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    Genius strategy from the genius strategist Starmer. What are the Tories not expecting him to do? Attack from the right!

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    It actually might be, to be fair. We've spent the last year fucking small business owners. Perfect time for Labour to scoop them.

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    Isn't corporation tax only on profits over a certain amount? Yeah a lot of businesses have taken a beating during this shit but a lot of others have creamed it off, even overperformed due to it. Supermarkets, Amazon etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    Isn't corporation tax only on profits over a certain amount? Yeah a lot of businesses have taken a beating during this shit but a lot of others have creamed it off, even overperformed due to it. Supermarkets, Amazon etc.
    Ya, same as Income Tax. Anyone against higher taxes needs a slap.

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    Small business (profits under 300k) has a lower rate. I wouldn't mind them starting an over 1 million super rate at 40% or something to fuck the big boys. Would be a perfectly Tory thing to do too, in a classical sense, even if the backbench MPs would cry salt tears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    Isn't corporation tax only on profits over a certain amount? Yeah a lot of businesses have taken a beating during this shit but a lot of others have creamed it off, even overperformed due to it. Supermarkets, Amazon etc.
    No, corporation tax is payable on any profits.

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    The Supermarkets should be getting the biggest kicking.

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    Supermarkets should be forced to give a certain % profits as bonuses evenly distributed among their staff. Christ I'm turning into Corbyn aren't I.

    What am I if I'm broadly leave-it-alone-ffs but also want to twat cynical corporate 'business leaders' over the head with a shovel? A Lib Dem? Say it ain't so.

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    I keep reading more about the headline tax rate being somewhat irrelevant compared to what you can and can't deduct/expense, which was what, for all of their 'rebalancing the economy' wibble, the coalition never seemed to grasp (or probably just avoided lest it create any 'losers'). That said, putting it up now is pretty dense, and not because of the pandemic. We should be aiming to undercut the Irish rate (as a package), since the European Union has been gunning for that for years and will make them raise it eventually.

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    How would you pay for whatever it is we have to pay for? Sell the NHS, obviously, but something will have to give unless we want to be in a borrowing nightmare forever.

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    Wealth tax. Thank you and goodnight.

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    None of this is ever going to be 'paid for', and I'm ten years past the point of expecting them to, so it's more a case of not choking off what there is/what Brexit Britain needs to be competitive, after which point they would be better off looking into productivity gains through planning reform and so on than fiddling around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    I keep reading more about the headline tax rate being somewhat irrelevant compared to what you can and can't deduct/expense, which was what, for all of their 'rebalancing the economy' wibble, the coalition never seemed to grasp (or probably just avoided lest it create any 'losers'). That said, putting it up now is pretty dense, and not because of the pandemic. We should be aiming to undercut the Irish rate (as a package), since the European Union has been gunning for that for years and will make them raise it eventually.
    Didn't Osborne slash it to a historically low rate during his tenure as Chancellor in an effort to seduce mega corporations into relocating to London only for there to be a collective 'meh' reaction that saw very little uptake?

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    I suspect it had some effect, but it seems like an obvious thing to do to keep the rate slightly higher in order to offset breaks on specifically-defined manufacturing items and energy costs, especially since you could then spin it as the BANKERS paying for it (assuming people are stupid enough to fall for the opposite of cutting the rate being spun as a tax cut for BANKERS).

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    I find your 'suspect' suspect.

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    Meanwhile, Alex Salmond.

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    Sounds like pressure is mounting on Wee Jimmy Krankie.

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    Imagine Magic is an empty husk of a man, having wanked himself into a coma over the calls for Sturgeon to resign.

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    I'm still sceptical she'll get 'proper fucked' so I'm holding off the champers, but I'd be following suit.

    Not sure who the SNP would turn to for a new leader either, they're utterly devoid of talent, like everyone else. I can't stand the twat but she's a good political operator.

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    Who's snapping at her heels from a leadership perspective?

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    They will torch literally everybody involved in it other than her, and she will just front it out.

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    Agreed with Lewis, they can't afford to lose her. They'll change the flag, renounce their rights to those pancake things, and cancel William Wallace if it means saving her.

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    That is wild.

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    His aides must be fucking idiots.

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    Is there a tldr of the Salmond/Sturgeon thing?

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    The BBC round-up is pretty good. Unless he's got the best poker face in the business, Salmond must be able to back his bullshit up (the BBC must think so too since they tried to ignore it for long enough), and if/when he does then lol.

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    New - Rishi Sunak will announce that contactless payments will rise to £100, more than double the current limit
    OK, Chancellor, your bollocks video is forgiven.

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    Keith signing off on torture being alright is sure to play well.

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    Is that the best deep fake to date? Surely that didn't actually happen.

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    It's legit.

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    1 step between each of them, but 3 between Rishi and his mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    OK, Chancellor, your bollocks video is forgiven.
    Not a chance I'm ever remembering my pin again.

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    Watching PMQs for first time in a while and Starmer is again making him squirm and lash out massively with succinct arguments. It's a shame his party can't capitalise on it.

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    I don't really get why they extended the stamp duty holiday again. If they really want to turn "generation rent into generation buy" surely that combined with the new 95% mortgage scheme is just gonna push prices up further? First time buyers weren't paying much stamp duty (if any) anyway so why not just bring it back?

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    Because they want house prices to rise.

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    If house prices start falling and the developers start crying that's a bigger problem than a load of 30 year olds whingeing about having to rent. Will also apply with a Labour government or any conceivable government until someone chokeslams the fuckers.

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    It's not developers, who, despite what idiots think about 'land banking', would like nothing more than to cover everywhere in their shitbox houses. It's existing homeowners who would lose out as values fall, and they all vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enoch Powell, January 1967
    Government interference has succeeded in one thing: in organising a never-ending, self-perpetuating shortage of housing. Yet it wasn't really as difficult to do this as it may sound. Give me a year or two and I guarantee to organise you an equally squalid shortage of anything else you care to name by applying the same methods as have been so successful with houses: control the price, subsidise the product, and wait for the scarcity to come along. Players can then exercise their ingenuity by inventing systems of rationing and allocation.
    I refer people to that speech if they ever ask about my 'Enoch Was Right' badge/t-shirt/tattoo.

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    All this stuff about people not being able to buy their own home pisses me off. There are plenty of people who I see and they are on low incomes and they will probably struggle to own their own homes. Those people need help. But, there are plenty of 2 people households who earn average wages wherever they live and if they saved hard for a year to eighteen months they would have the deposit to buy somewhere. A lot of them don't want to do that though. They don't want to buy a starter home, they want to buy a 3/4 bed home first off, they aren't willing to drive round in a shit-heap they want a Range Rover Evoque and are happy to pay £600 a month for it(about a standard mortgage payment round here for a first time buyer house). It is hard to save for a house but there are plenty of people who as with everything else in life are too lazy and want something for nothing.

    Oh and with these 95% mortgages it will be like it was before they got withdrawn last year you will need impeccable credit which will pretty much mean most people who would actually need it to give them a leg up won't be able to get them anyway.

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    Listen, Imma let you finish but...is this shit gonna be applicable to my plans to get a second home or not?

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    Without reading the small print I will guess... no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    Listen, Imma let you finish but...is this shit gonna be applicable to my plans to get a second home or not?
    Won't make a jot of difference to you.

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    You piece of shit, Rishi. Brown on brown crime.

    PS. Why? Is it limited to being your only property?

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    Because landlord scum should be hung in the street /boydy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Because they want house prices to rise.
    Well, yeah, that's the problem.

    It all feels like a fucking pyramid scheme and I'm sure it'll probably all fall apart when I buy into it.

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    Just get really, really famous and then every house you move into will balloon in value.

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