God, I hate 'centrists'.
Theresa May's Conservatives
Jeremy Corbyn's Labour
Tim Farron's Liberal Democrats
Paul Nuttall's UKIP
2 people's Greens
Nicholas Durgeon's Scottish Nationalists
Satan's Sinn Fein
Dr Ian Paisley's DUP
Some other bunch of nonces
I'm foreign, but I wish I were an Englishman
God, I hate 'centrists'.
Who was it the other day who said that, rather than more of the detached bollocks that bottled up all of the current issues, actual 'centrism' would be more NHS and no immigrants?
Actual centrism is pretty much what Vote Leave were going for (and got). London types remain utterly clueless as to what's going on in the outside world. They are just nostalgic for the pre-crash days when people like them got to decide everything and pay themselves loads.
Someone should write an article rehabilitating Oswald Mosley as the original centrist. It's literally all there.
Didn't Skidelsky pretty much do a book on that?
Yeah, but I mean directly relating all of his main proposals to what contemporary 'centrists' advocate. Alternatively you could bash up a 'Centrist Manifesto' comprised entirely of Mosley quotes and then shop it around Remain Twitter hoping for a few plugs before anyone catches on.
It turns out that I did not cause Brexit.
Shame.
Get in the bin.
The UK should take military action against Tony Blair.
I was too young to care about Iraq, and by the time I did care we were very much past the point of no return, but what is wrong with people on Syria? Whether or not they did this latest gassing (and I don't believe they did), how much more evidence do you need that nobbling the government was never a good idea? Leave it.
So what's the solution? The man is committing atrocities on a frequent basis and the world is watching as it does.
He's already won. Let him get it over with as quickly as possible.
Well we've seen what happens with Iraq if you try and follow something through.Originally Posted by Kikó
So many of these places seem to be tyrants or chaos, pick one and nothing else. Leave them to it.
We leave Africa for the same reason. The 'best' solution is one from within.
"Leaving them to it" would constitute withdrawing support for other regional actors, such as Israel, Saudia Arabia and Turkey, and abandoning the belligerent stance against Iran. Let's not kid ourselves that not dropping bombs is staying out of it.
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We should do all of that as well.
Agreed.
Aye, although those nations are a bit closer to the fire.
Not a great look:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/heidiblake/...mkB#.lcyYvrkxr
Confidential correspondence between British government officials and their French counterparts, shown to BuzzFeed News by a source in the UK, reveals that the French wanted British authorities to raid Lycamobile’s London headquarters last year and seize evidence as part of their investigation into money laundering and tax fraud by the company.
In an official response dated 30 March 2017, a government official noted that Lycamobile is “a large multinational company” with “vast assets at their disposal” and would be “extremely unlikely to agree to having their premises searched”.
The letter, from the team at HMRC that handles law enforcement requests from foreign governments, continued: “It is of note that they are the biggest corporate donor to the Conservative party led by Prime Minister Theresa May and donated 1.25m Euros to the Prince Charles Trust in 2012.”
The HMRC response went on to say that Lycamobile would be likely to challenge any raids on its properties in court and may succeed because the French request did not contain enough “solid information”. The request stalled, and Lycamobile’s UK offices were never searched.
lol
Saudi-led coalition strike kills at least 20 at wedding in Yemen
Also "committing atrocities on a frequent basis", @Kiko.
Strangely, no harried calls for action or even much discussion of this. And remember who supplies the weapons.
Great reason to not go through with it.
The Saudi Arabian 'intervention' there has got to be one of the shittest of its kind ever, which probably means they're stuck in it forever at the risk of losing serious face. They will probably end up doing some shithouse trade over Syria for it with Iran.
You don't bomb customers.
If commercial relationship is the deciding factor in who gets bombed, then maybe we should stop moralising about it?
Amber Rudd has resigned. Lol
Amber Fudd.
I'm glad I'm seeing that for the first time.
Top bombing from Theresa. Vacancy open. SEND FOR THE GOVE
Give it to Philip Hammond, and then give Michael Gove his job. This all seems like a load of shit. The stuff with the colonials is merely a classic case of institutional incompetence, so conflating it with the more than worthwhile 'hostile environment' stuff is daft.
The last time a PM changed their own chancellor was (I think) John Major about 25 years ago. You can't touch the Treasury nowadays.
I'm amazed that blaming people below you who have access to all the details and just as many media contacts, didn't work as a political survival strategy.
Just when you start to have a bit of respect for ol' Lammy he goes and does this sort of stuff:
Although some of the responses are top quality stuff:
Are those the best ones? They're both crap and obviously written by arseholes.
What message is he actually trying to convey there? That he's about to rob parliament?
The very definition of Twitter.
Omar ain't no thief.
Lammy is a fucking tool, always has been and always will be. Attaching himself to various causes celebres does not affect this.
He's more Clay Davis than Omar.
I was just thinking that he's opened himself up to some fairly heavy ridicule with the Wire reference. There are lots of cunty politicians in that show.
Is that David Lammy taking the credit for this? Take your victories where you can find them I suppose.
Where are you supposed to go to see votes? The Windrush thing just happened and I'd like to see the numbers/who voted what but I have no idea where to find that stuff outside of waiting for journos to present a selective list.
edit: All I can find is a 'What's On' on parliament.gov and it doesn't even list the vote as happening and a link to this news piece on an app of how to see the votes AND THEY DONT TELL YOU THE FUCKING NAME OF IT
Just voted in the local elections. As always having a polling station in the pub is the only reason I’ve bothered
Cheers
Yes it does.
I voted for the incumbent Residents again. The local Tory knocked on the door the other day and I said I vote for them nationally, but will never vote for them locally because they're a bunch of small time weasels. She responded to this by saying 'Well haven't you seen the changes the Residents have brought in?', I said 'What changes?' and she bottled it and went to the next door.
The Tories here are running on reversing the so-called 'Tennis Tax' whereby you have to pay two quid an hour or something to use the local courts. I genuinely couldn't give less of a shit about any conceivable issue, I don't think.
Voting for the liberals tonight. I'm some how on their mailing lists which makes me think I've been Cambridge analytica'd or it's probably bought from Twitter.
Vince thinks I live in Twickenham as well. Cheers Vince.
Voted Labour for ALL THE THINGS. Basically local politics around here (Tower Hamlets) are bananas as the Bengali crew all stick together and vote in local councillors to embezzle funds and sort their mates out with planning permission.
My local Labour candidate lives in a house on a posh road they bought for £1.3 million. Politics around here is a bit like Tower Hamlets, just with ciabatta instead of paratha.
The biggest/flashest house round here always has Labour signs on its gates round election time. The man who owns it has a massive dog which bit somebody my mother knows, and his response was to pay somebody stronger to walk it for him. Isn't that basically how Stalin came to power?
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