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  • Jeremy Corbyn's Labour

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Thread: UK General Election 2017 - 8 June

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    What? This is the start of the EU caving on the matter and we're the ones inevitably getting thrown under the bus. The fact they're negotiating at all with the UK when an agreement was already reached shows they've cracked first. Was inevitable anyway, anyone who thought the EU weren't going to suit their big players was delusional.
    Caving on what matter? What's on the table is an NI-only backstop. That's what was there initially, and then changed to a UK-wide backstop.

    You sound awfully like someone who has been paying no attention to anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry View Post
    Caving on what matter? What's on the table is an NI-only backstop. That's what was there initially, and then changed to a UK-wide backstop.

    You sound awfully like someone who has been paying no attention to anything.
    I've paid enough attention to our side of it as opposed to yours, and any negotiation on the deal at all is a solid win for the UK side at this stage.

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    Giggs, you must be the only fucker on the planet that thinks we're winning in any way, shape or form.

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    The NI backstop would be a decent starting point no? You'd get Northern Ireland and Ireland continue to be borderless and actually be able to start negotiating all these wonderful deals as we would be out of the EU. Unless you bring back a Norway type deal then this is the best you will get to.

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    Have another referendum now. Landslide leave.


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    We're winning two world wars to nil, and Frau Merkel shows no signs of pulling one back.

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    I can't see how the Conservative Party survives any sort of 'backstop' at this point.

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    I take it all back



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    Up there with sticking an airport in the Thames Estuary, that.

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    Oh, a physical bridge. Wow.

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    It must only be about ten miles if you lead it into Ballycastle. It could easily be done. The submarine people might moan though.

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    I just wanted to visualize this idea and have found there are several Bally- towns.... Ballymena, Ballynure, Ballyclare, Ballygalley, Ballystrudder...


    Why is this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruhnaldo View Post
    I just wanted to visualize this idea and have found there are several Bally- towns.... Ballymena, Ballynure, Ballyclare, Ballygalley, Ballystrudder...


    Why is this?
    Baile in the Irish language is ‘town’ and when place names were Anglicised here Baile became Bally. Same as loads of towns start with Kil, which came from Cill (Church).

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruhnaldo View Post
    I just wanted to visualize this idea and have found there are several Bally- towns.... Ballymena, Ballynure, Ballyclare, Ballygalley, Ballystrudder...


    Why is this?
    Because they're Anglicised versions of Irish place names. "Baile" means "town" in Irish, and that ends up as "Bally" in most cases.

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    12.6 mi ain't that bad surely. We have a 7 mile one in the Keys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    Baile in the Irish language is ‘town’ and when place names were Anglicised here Baile became Bally. Same as loads of towns start with Kil, which came from Cill (Church).
    Quote Originally Posted by Henry View Post
    Because they're Anglicised versions of Irish place names. "Baile" means "town" in Irish, and that ends up as "Bally" in most cases.
    I had a feeling but I was curious Thanks fellas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruhnaldo View Post




    12.6 mi ain't that bad surely. We have a 7 mile one in the Keys.

    The munitions dump and the depth of the water would make the cost astronomical. It’s only token chat to tickle the rabid loyalists behind the ear for a distraction.

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    The munitions/waste dump is further south, and it wouldn't cost as much as something like Crossrail. Whether there is an economic case for it I don't know; but it's not ridiculous in technical terms.

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    Is the sea not too rough for it as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruhnaldo View Post
    I just wanted to visualize this idea and have found there are several Bally- towns.... Ballymena, Ballynure, Ballyclare, Ballygalley, Ballystrudder...


    Why is this?
    You should hear the story or Balamory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    The munitions dump and the depth of the water would make the cost astronomical. It’s only token chat to tickle the rabid loyalists behind the ear for a distraction.
    It's also blowing a force 9 Gale 360 days a year.

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    For most people who don't live in Dumfries and Galloway, surely it would be far quicker to get a flight than to complete that marathon car journey. Similarly, anyone from the Irish side would face a six hour journey to anywhere of interest.

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    True, it’s a fair old trek on a poor enough road once you’re past Antrim. Though he’s probably going to announce the direct 8 lane motorway today anyway.

    I notice all the loyalist on my Facebook lapping it up though. THE MAINLAND HASN’T FORGOTTEN US. It’s brilliant.

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    It’s for cargo not people. It allows them to put a border check in Scotland no?

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    Borris

    Parliament is back, yo.

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    I doubt it.

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    After holidays.

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    "Hunter Dubose"?

    Come on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    It's also blowing a force 9 Gale 360 days a year.
    "47–54 mph" that doesn't seem that bad but then I guess a constant barrage of this would be different.

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    30mph winds are dangerous to drive in. 55mph winds could be strong enough to turn over a small car.

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    Oh hahaha duh. I was only thinking structurally for some reason.

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    Plus they'd have to build the thing in it.

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    It's alright, we can just get a bunch of, oh wait, as you were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    It's alright, we can just get a bunch of, oh wait, as you were.
    All drunk too don't forget.

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    Well, they do like their Krupnik I suppose.

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    My old man has an alcoholic Glaswegian shipbuilder as a lodger, and he happens to be a bead-rattler (albeit not one of the wallowing ones). Not that many years ago he was doing a job in Northern Ireland, and the staunch locals were giving him a hard time because they didn't realise that the Poles were Catholics too.

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    30mph winds dangerous to drive in? In what? A double decker on the Tay Bridge?

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    I thought that maybe it was a bad idea for The Mail to be accusing those Judges of being traitors when they passed the Gina Miller case.

    A member of the cabinet, Kwasi Kwarteng, coming out and saying that this is the case seems really, really bad. If as a Politician you believe that to pass Brexit, you have to delegitimise the Civil Service, Parliament and the Courts, possibly ending with the PM breaking the law (on the No-No Deal Bill, whether you think it's worth a wank or not). Is it worth it?

    At what point are you just destroying a few hundred years of society for a short term political win?

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    The courts stuff is a bit stupid, but the civil service and parliament de-legitimised themselves long before any of this. It's part of the reason it happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    The courts stuff is a bit stupid, but the civil service and parliament de-legitimised themselves long before any of this. It's part of the reason it happened.
    Yes but you haven't got the Civil Service and Parliament saying so. The only thing that stops everything breaking down is the pretense of legitimacy whether it deserves it or not.

    There are corrupt police officers but you can't have the top cop saying that they're all bent. If the PM publicly states that he doesn't have to adhere to the law, why should I? (Not saying I'm going to go shoot up a foot locker for some new shoes or anything but it can't help society at large)

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    You could say the same for people conspiring against referendum results (particularly those elected in 2017 promising not to) and trashing parliamentary convention in order to do so. They only retain their legitimacy and function so long as people pretend that their integrity is more important than short-term political wins, and yet...

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    Considering the make-up of the High Court that chucked out Miller's recent case I'd be amazed if the jock ruling isn't overturned on appeal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    You could say the same for people conspiring against referendum results (particularly those elected in 2017 promising not to) and trashing parliamentary convention in order to do so. They only retain their legitimacy and function so long as people pretend that their integrity is more important than short-term political wins, and yet...

    Word. All of the issues we're facing now at home and abroad are down to a generation of bad governance and self-interest.

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    People have always been self interested, it’s human nature. I don’t see how this has suddenly changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    People have always been self interested, it’s human nature. I don’t see how this has suddenly changed.
    The prior generations were corrupt as fuck and stayed in power by doing minor giveaways to the people. Our/the prior generation just made the corruption quasi-legal so you didn't have to even bother with the handouts.

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    If you are so pro-European Union that you would leave the Conservative/Labour Party and join the Liberal Democrats over it, why weren't you one all along? It has literally been their main selling point (along with electoral reform lol) for their entire existence. Has anyone asked these defectors something to that end, or do they just wibble about by-elections and the NARRATIVE?

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    It's only in the last two years that the Conservative party has realigned itself in opposition to Europe. Before that you could be a conservative whilst pro, anti or neutral towards the EU.

    The party is completely stone dead because of that shift. Once Labour get rid of the mongs, the Tories in their current form will never govern again.

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    Yeah, but what was keeping him in the Conservative Party all that time if it can be put aside over this? A cynical person might conclude that the Conservative Party was merely the most convenient career vehicle.

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