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  • Theresa May's Conservatives

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  • Jeremy Corbyn's Labour

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  • Tim Farron's Liberal Democrats

    3 6.82%
  • Paul Nuttall's UKIP

    0 0%
  • 2 people's Greens

    1 2.27%
  • Nicholas Durgeon's Scottish Nationalists

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  • Dr Ian Paisley's DUP

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Thread: UK General Election 2017 - 8 June

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    It's amazing how much they've cocked this up considering how easy everyone said it would be.

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    Dominic 'I didn't know we were an island' Raab is preparing a leadership bid?

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    The problem is that the quality of leadership is so low in both parties that it has sludged into a nothingy mess.

    The other problem is that 40% of the country are vexed one way and 40% are vexed the other. There is no way out of that without people having a massive cry.

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    What we really need is a massive pop-concert off the back of a terrorist attack. Tezza should go full false flag on the situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    What we really need is a massive pop-concert off the back of a terrorist attack. Tezza should go full false flag on the situation.
    I actually got a boner at all those people on Rememberence Sunday at the Cenotaph and how awesome it would be if a huge 44tonner plouged it's way through.

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    I saw something about Chris Grayling resigning being the final blow. In what world is losing Chris Grayling a blow? The man is a total idiot.

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    He's Theresa May's total idiot though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    He's Theresa May's total idiot though.
    I saw that he was her Campaign Manager, I'm shocked the election went the way it did.

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    I was following this on that Guardian Live page at work. They barely had enough space to put their DARK MONEY begging appeals in.

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    I find them useless at breaking news.

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    Back to Michael Gove, him steaming over there to re-negotiate it single-handedly is definitely something we need to see before not getting anything.

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    In before she calls a snap election.

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    This press conference is demented. Even Gordon Brown chucked shit around and chewed his nails.

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    May should call Mogg a bigot.

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    The quality of these makes me think it's the actual bloke.

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    I know I’m late to this and not as informed as you guys are, but I just want to point out how hilarious it is that this clusterfuck has come as a result of calling a popular referendum on leaving the European Union. How absurd the concept of a “referendum” is. What a retarded process.

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    Particularly when one of the options is absolutely not available.

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    As somebody old enough to remember when the European Union was just a trading arrangement, and get over it Nigel it barely has any say over our laws, I have enjoyed watching the NARRATIVE shifting towards this being the best it gets on account of the impossibility of leaving something so deeply embedded into every aspect of our political and economic systems.

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    I saw something on twitter earlier that said that rather than triggering A50 we should have clung on for years and tried to rot them from the inside before actually leaving. Probably something in that.

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    Are we not leaving now? Was I right again?*

    *I take no pleasure in this as I haven't made the fortune from it that I should have done.

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    The Hotel California situation then.

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    One of the problems is that there's now an entrenched political class, who simply treat the whole process as a game where the object is to "win", where winning is purely being the person driving the "winning" party. Politicians have little thought to any ramifications beyond "winning" the game of politics.

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    There's one person who very conspicuously is not like that and the media revile him.

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    Fucking Tory shambles. The Brexit secretary rejected his own deal.

    Why doesn't May trigger a confidence vote herself? It's about the only way she's going to regain any authority.

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    It's hardly his deal though is it?

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    It's not really a deal full stop. It's like going on a diet without changing what you eat.

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    It's killing me that it's being referred to as a deal. But I guess that sums this shambles up.

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    Don't worry. We're saved. Amber Rudds back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    There's one person who very conspicuously is not like that and the media revile him.
    He's been a politician for forty-five years, and now lies about everything he ever did to help him win.

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    And his Brexit position is the definition of a wanker politician.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    And his Brexit position is the definition of a wanker politician.

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    His Brexit 'position' is deliberate and makes total sense. No one is interested in the details of Brexit, but he needs both the in and out camps to believe in the vaguest terms that he's on their side, and currently he hasn't properly alienated either of them. Job done.

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    I think he's alienated most of the remain lot.

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    Yeah, but what's their alternative? The Lib Dems? That Gina woman?

    Thinking some sort of progressive alliance is going to overturn the dyed in the wool established order would be mental.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Yeah, but what's their alternative? The Lib Dems? That Gina woman?

    Thinking some sort of progressive alliance is going to overturn the dyed in the wool established order would be mental.
    I think they just won't vote instead. He needed a record youth turnout to not win already. I guess you can presume there'll be a similar enthusiasm gap for the Conservatives but most of their voters are old retirees who get excited about the chance to leave the house.

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    Once there is a leftish Labour leader who isn't electoral poison to about 65% of the country, they are going to landslide it. Literally all it needs is someone with a bit of charisma whose politics aren't rooted in the Cold War (Jeremy 0/2 on these counts).

    People have had enough of the Tories and their sort of freemason lizard approach to public services.

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    Got to give it to the ERG, pulling off the slowest, most incompetent and what looks like ultimatley unsuccessful coup is a very good metaphor for the Brexit process.

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    Mogg getting made to look like a total cunt almost makes this whole shitshow worth it

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    It's the first time those mongs have been politically relevant for at least 23 years, and even then it turns out that they aren't.

    Tim Shipman's 'All Out War' has a great (neutral) account of how Deadly Dom just about managed to shut all those tossers out of the Leave campaign before they torpedoed it with this 'Global Britain' nonsense.

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    They're still right about this (as they have historically been about most things), so it's more a reflection of the sheer amount of fannies in the party than them.

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    At least we're concentrating on the important things.

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    Aren't you meant to be ridding the world of Aids?

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    No they don't let graphic designers do peer reviewed medical trials weirdly. There is a vaccine about to go to trial though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    They're still right about this (as they have historically been about most things), so it's more a reflection of the sheer amount of fannies in the party than them.
    The Norman Tebbit lot may have been right about most things, but there's a definite hint of senator-you're-no-Norman-Tebbit about the current incarnation. Davis is a ridiculous clown, Mogg has been found out, and the rest of them are just morons.

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    True. Speaking of which, I was working in London today, and finished early, so I went for a mooch about. I saw the STOP BREXIT idiots, and also the UKIP umbrella idiot who holds one up where the BBC rolling cameras point. I said 'Good on you mate', and within about forty seconds he was telling me to join the party and have a look at Sargon of Akkad on YouTube. I won't be doing either of those thanks, but nice talking to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post


    At least we're concentrating on the important things.
    Fucking hell. /

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    True. Speaking of which, I was working in London today, and finished early, so I went for a mooch about. I saw the STOP BREXIT idiots, and also the UKIP umbrella idiot who holds one up where the BBC rolling cameras point. I said 'Good on you mate', and within about forty seconds he was telling me to join the party and have a look at Sargon of Akkad on YouTube. I won't be doing either of those thanks, but nice talking to you.
    No informal beer? Disappointed.

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    I was led to believe I was going to be there all day and dying on my arse. Maybe next time.

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    So from distance, the whole debacle that is how this has been handled looks like it could (should?) be doing irreparable damage to the Tory "brand". Of course, the opposition is a waste of space, so it's not doing any damage now. But I can't imagine they're popular with anyone on either side at the moment.

    But I've learned not to trust my gut on British politics. Do you think the Tories are actually going to come out of this relatively unscathed?

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    No, they'll soon by hated by everyone, whether for Brexit (on both extremes of the debate) or for the better reason of their vampiric approach to public services.

    The referendum has brought into focus the real divide in Britain, which is not Tory/Labour or left/right, but haves and have nots. Currently all the parties represent various aspects of the haves, while the have nots remain voiceless aside from their remarkable referendum result, which the haves are still working hard to overturn.

    When one of the parties gains a presentable have not leader, they will sweep any election. We are not like America, we lack their desire for hero figures and wouldn't buy a ridiculous strongman like Trump (I imagine Australia is also like this).

    You'd think Labour would be best placed to do this, but they have failed miserably so far, mistakenly believing that 20th century ideological divides have any relevance in the minds of 21st century electorates.

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