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  • Theresa May's Conservatives

    10 22.73%
  • Jeremy Corbyn's Labour

    23 52.27%
  • Tim Farron's Liberal Democrats

    3 6.82%
  • Paul Nuttall's UKIP

    0 0%
  • 2 people's Greens

    1 2.27%
  • Nicholas Durgeon's Scottish Nationalists

    1 2.27%
  • Satan's Sinn Fein

    0 0%
  • Dr Ian Paisley's DUP

    0 0%
  • Some other bunch of nonces

    2 4.55%
  • I'm foreign, but I wish I were an Englishman

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Thread: UK General Election 2017 - 8 June

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    A few supply chain niggles during a casedemic aren't really comparable are they.

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    A bit more of his after dinner bollocks falling flat at 'serious' events and I will be back on board.

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    "Okay, we have a housing crisis and a climate crisis."
    "Treehouses."
    "Fuck, that's genius."

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    Just found out Asda and Tesco are both out of petrol and the queue for the petrol station at Waitrose has caused an hour long hold up on the A127.

    TEAM FEAR have donned us all. Atleast I voted remain so I can be smug about it in my cold, foodless, dark house.

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    Why are people panic buying fuel? Since when is there a fuel shortage?

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    BP announced that they were having to close some petrol stations yesterday as they don't have enough drivers to get the petrol to the stations.

    I imagine this has caused a run on the stations to fill up and Old Barry currently has a barrel of petrol in his shed, despite only driving to the shop for his paper once a day for the last 6 years.

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    Burn the boomers.

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    Absolutely mental.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post


    Absolutely mental.
    Not really, there isn't any opposition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    Not really, there isn't any opposition.
    There shouldn't really need to be. There are few parties I wouldn't vote for over this lot.

    The new Labour Leader could be a turd, freshly culed out by Jeremy Corbyn and I'd still vote for it over these cunts. An actual shit would be less shit than this.

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    An actual shit would merely be similar to this, except with even more immigrants. Hence the polls.

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    The actual specifics of these Christmas turkey visas are hilarious. Absolute chancer.

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    Lol, who'd have thought a shit temporary 3 month visa wouldn't be that attractive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post


    Lol, who'd have thought a shit temporary 3 month visa wouldn't be that attractive?
    It’s for only about 6 weeks pay as well once you take all the charges for application, etc out of it.

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    They're just being unreasonable. Imagine if someone in need politely said to you:

    "listen foreign scum, we're in a bit of a sitch, and we need you - We don't WANT you, to be clear - but you are unfortunately our only option."

    I for one would be straight over to help.

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    If the government had any vision re Brexit they would have made loads of visa exemptions for things like truck drivers, toilet cleaners, taxi drivers, chicken stranglers, strip club dancers, roadside murderers etc. A good Brexit, which is possible by the way unless you believe a pan-continental superstate is literally the only way to govern human activities, would be utterly unconcerned about immigration.

    Unfortunately the current Tories are in hoc to the weirdo fringe of the party who have no vision beyond the Jaguar logo at the end of their bonnet, and the Telegraph-reading scowling boomers who vote for them on Thursdays and prowl the Marks & Spencers food hall for expensive gravy on the other six days of the week.

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    What I'd really love to know is, Pandemic aside, what do huge swathes of our population actually do for money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    What I'd really love to know is, Pandemic aside, what do huge swathes of our population actually do for money.
    Own houses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    If the government had any vision re Brexit they would have made loads of visa exemptions for things like truck drivers, toilet cleaners, taxi drivers, chicken stranglers, strip club dancers, roadside murderers etc. A good Brexit, which is possible by the way unless you believe a pan-continental superstate is literally the only way to govern human activities, would be utterly unconcerned about immigration.
    Sure but anti-immigration sentiment is what drove a good chunk of the vote, right?

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    The UK economy is propped up by coffee shops and phone shops, as Thatcher envisioned. Service economy innit. Thanks to the internet people are more aspirational than ever, regardless of the merit of those aspirations. They see melts like Mrs Hinch getting £25k per instagram ad for pouring bleach down her bog and want the same. Kids want to be pro game streamers. How many 'models' are there now thanks to social media.

    The shit jobs have never been as unappealing to people, and it will only get worse. Even if it isn't a shit job for the money, people are averse to hard work. I remember when I was training for the railway I saw a documentary where they followed the european veg pickers, showing them do 6-6 and getting £10 and hour. The crew then went to the job centre and local college offering people work for that wage, everyone was interested until they found out what it was. This was 2008.

    The best bit is all the naysayers on social media claiming it's nothing to do with Brexit despite the industry experts and the goverment policy to remedy the problems suggesting otherwise.

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    But what are the £10 an hour brigade who were born here and don't want to do shit jobs actually doing? They can't all be streamers and cam models.

    When I was much younger me and my friends worked in retail and McDonalds for cash, I just don't get what that's been replaced by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Sure but anti-immigration sentiment is what drove a good chunk of the vote, right?
    Probably. We have collectively despised immigrants for two thousand years, so why stop now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    But what are the £10 an hour brigade who were born here and don't want to do shit jobs actually doing? They can't all be streamers and cam models.

    When I was much younger me and my friends worked in retail and McDonalds for cash, I just don't get what that's been replaced by.
    'Studying'

    I know a couple of people my age (33) who still don't work full time as they have dragged out their education via bank of mum and dad, the odd stint working in a bar/shop, and repeated dropouts / masters / etc. I've long since decided they just don't fancy work.

    This option presumably isn't open to those without the family means, so god knows what they do.

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    Aren't a large proportion of "employed" people done so on a 0 hours contract too? I can't remember the stat, but there's a fair number of employed people that are only employed on paper and haven't had work in a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    But what are the £10 an hour brigade who were born here and don't want to do shit jobs actually doing? They can't all be streamers and cam models.

    When I was much younger me and my friends worked in retail and McDonalds for cash, I just don't get what that's been replaced by.
    People do still work in McDonalds and retail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    People do still work in McDonalds and retail.
    You can hardly call them people.

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    A lot are online shopping warehouse slaves or employed some way or another in non clinical NHS roles it seems. The ones milking the thursday night claps and using their work ID to queue jump despite working at home on cushy hours during the pandemic.

    I do think aspiration shifts have caused a lot of problems though. Kids now just grew up with the internet as the omnipresent answer to everything, available almost everywhere. We are all pretty much the last generation to have grown up without that.

    Everyone's view is warped by what their phone is telling them, real or not. It's the same way everyone complains behaviour is getting worse on news articles. In actual fact these things were likely happening in the past but you weren't as plugged in because you didn't have the means. A girl I know vaguely from an old group I used to drink with in a now demolished pub was complaining on facebook about her son getting beaten up in a playground. I could extrapolate that news into the view that all playgrounds are unsafe, that is information I would have never known pre-social media. I think this inability to deal with a flood of information (and disinformation) is what will define our era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    But what are the £10 an hour brigade who were born here and don't want to do shit jobs actually doing?
    Having loads of kids?

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    And calling them Khaos.

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    This weekend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    And calling them Khaos.
    I have seen "Goldenboy" as a middle name and one of the consultants swears they have met a La-a (google says that name is an urban legend but this guy isn't the type to make it up).

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    Is that 'Ladasha' or something? I've heard tell of multiple variants of that.

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    Yeah, Ladasha.

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    Nobody will ever top Elon Musks cunt kid, so everyone should just give up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Nobody will ever top Elon Musks cunt kid, so everyone should just give up.
    Speaking of which:




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    I'm putting that on the "No you didn't, Shut up" list along with my dickhead ex colleague that claimed she thought the moon was just the sun at night time.

    Nobody is that stupid.

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    They definitely are.

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    The last year or two have made it very apparent that many people are at least that stupid.

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    Yep. The internet just makes them slightly more visible.

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    As someone who’s said they should bump the minimum wage I’m not complaining but I do find it odd that the ones pushing for it are asking for the same number as the left is in America despite the huge difference in Standard of Living. I know a lot of the Bernie people and the Corbyn wing of the party have a lot of people that worked on both campaigns. Just seems too coincidental.

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    On the job front, there’s an absolutely insane amount of the workforce working in call centres trying to get you to swap your insurance company or gas provider because nothing much actually changes for the consumers apart from the name on the top. The callers get a pittance of commission but anyone that does swap gets locked into two years of that company getting paid not the competitor so it works for them.

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    £15 an hour is a very high number to get past the electorate at large I think. If you think ten is low then go twelve or something. £15 an hour is, like, £28k salary on full time hours? 30k even? There would be utter chaos if that came in suddenly.

    Our current minimum wage is already the world's 7th highest if the PPP-adjusted wikipedia table is at all credible. £15 an hour would be about $20.50, the highest globally at the moment is $16 and that country (Argentina, weirdly) is the only one above $13.
    Last edited by Jimmy Floyd; 27-09-2021 at 07:44 PM.

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    Yep. Double the £'s and multiply the result by a thousand and you get the rough annual salary.

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    £15 is a whole lot more than $15. Also, the minimum wage might be $7.25 here, but even Walmart is offering $14 minimum right now.

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    Surely this would just increase inflation further anyway? If people are getting paid more, employers will increase prices in line with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Surely this would just increase inflation further anyway? If people are getting paid more, employers will increase prices in line with it.
    One of the big chains in the US went from 9 dollars to 16 dollars and it resulted in a 12 cent increase on the average order while paying every staff member 7 dollars more an hour and staff turnover dropped from 70% to 30.

    Wages haven’t risen in decades while the cost of living has. It barely effects the supply chain.

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    Labour conference motion to commit party to backing PR voting system has been defeated. Constituencies were in favour, but the unions were having none of it apparently.

    Shame this opportunity was not taken to start removing first past the post voting.

    https://amp.theguardian.com/politics...st-the-post?__

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