Theresa May's Conservatives
Jeremy Corbyn's Labour
Tim Farron's Liberal Democrats
Paul Nuttall's UKIP
2 people's Greens
Nicholas Durgeon's Scottish Nationalists
Satan's Sinn Fein
Dr Ian Paisley's DUP
Some other bunch of nonces
I'm foreign, but I wish I were an Englishman
Late to the party I know, but I'm not sure anything better sums up the mess we've gotten into as a country on race than Diane Abbott being the target of horrific racial abuse revelations while simultaneously being suspended from the labour party for.... being racist.
The problem is, especially where the Labour Party is concerned, being accused of being racist (especially if Jews are involved) is basically a death sentence.
Liking Diane Abbott has always been in my top 10 unpopular opinions. There are loads of worse cunts than her even among Labour left-wingers, so it's hard not to conclude that she enrages people for other reasons than what she says and does.
The way she talks is quite annoying.
Like everything is said after a sharp intake of breath/could be about to burst into tears at any moment.
The pantomime over this clown who donated all of that money to the Conservative Party is proper lol. If he had given them a hundred grand they would have re-paid it already, banished him forever, and legislated for the next monarch to be black; meanwhile, the people clamouring for the donation to be re-paid would be more forgiving of him if he had molested somebody but said sorry afterwards. The health people wanting his company blacklisted, when presumably it does a decent job at whatever it does, is a top run-in as well.
From what I remember ol' Diane was a bit hard done to getting canned by the Labour Party. Oh well. Can't stop progress.
Either side doing their bs is what it is but it's all been enabled by yet more incredible absence of leadership and foresight.
Are these whoppers even going to manage to make Opposition? Best call the election now before it gets even worse.
Noteworthy that the votes they're losing aren't going to Labour and Sir Beer Korma might actually be slowly losing votes.
Perhaps one of our brave parties could take the revolutionary step of actually offering what the public want, rather than "more of the same, but less fraud".
I wouldn't totally rule out a scenario where PM Keir is being opposed by the scything legalistic mind of fellow knight of the realm Ed Davey.
What do the public want?Originally Posted by Spikey M
You would have to ask the public. It's obviously going to vary across different groups. I'm fairly sure nobody wants "more of the same" though. Our choice is currently limited to. The Tories again or Labour continuing what the Tories have done. Sir Beer has been very clear that we shouldn't expect sweeping changes.
Well, sweeping changes are what I want. Reduce inequality, nationalise water, trains, dentists etc and start building fucking houses again. Not everyone will agree on that. Others will want a huge cuts in immigration, some will want to rejoin the EU still, etc, etc, etc.
The point is, we have no option for any of that really. We have the Tories or The Tories in red. The Lib Dems, Greens and Reform offer a bit of a protest vote, but that's all. There's no real option for anyone that wants change of any real kind. Democracy is a scam.
I suppose what I'm driving at, is we've completely moved away from the norm. It used to be straight forward.
Conservatives: small government, low tax, low spending, low funding for services.
Labour: Big government, high tax, high spending, good funding for services.
We've now fallen into a world where they both offer a muddled, worse of both offering. High tax, high spending, fuck all services.
There's no debate on how it should be or what should change. It just is what it is and the debate is around who will deliver it less shambolically.
The system is broken.
Probably because most of it is outside the control of UK government and in the hands of, say, the strength of the US dollar, or who Putin decides to invade this week, or oil prices, or what happens to the Chinese manufacturing sector.
The more one frees oneself from the idea that we can control anything much in a holistic sense, the more you see the world in terms of small shifts making a bigger difference. Even changing the mood music from the current Tory rabble trying to justify tax cuts to Starmer's lot being a bit more people-focused will make a big difference, without scaring people like Foot and Corbyn's radical platforms did. Will it lead us to the sunlit uplands, no, but it might make many people feel a bit better for a while.
Anyone who offers what you say you want here will get murdered by the press. See 2019.
But you're right on the last sentence.
It isn't really.
It's just the British populace, like any major developed nation, aren't really all that into the idea of radical reform, no matter how much of a right wing media conspiracy you think that prevalent view is the product of, so people who want to get elected tailor their offering to woo that 'small c conservative' majority that exists.
There was a chap quite recently who wanted to do that and got lolled out of politics.
There was. If we could find another one that wasn't regularly photographed with Hamas leaders, then he may stand a chance. Corbyn made it easy for them.
To say the Great British Public can't stomach anything new and different, a million immigrants a year became normalised pretty quickly. The NHS started sterilising mentally ill kids without too much of a fuss. That teacher is still hiding from Muslims and nobody cares. If the last four years has taught us anything it's that most people barely think about anything other than in very superficial terms, so the trick is to just do things, refuse to accept that Sky News has a veto on appointments and policy, and then, assuming they can be shown to be working on some level, those things become normalised.
As a trivial example, if they had built that third runway at Heathrow, then what? It can't be un-built, so what good is voting Liberal Democrat after the event?
Starmer, since he doesn't need their votes, should definitely go to war on the nimby tendency and build loads of stuff. If he doesn't it'll be pathetic.
Even if you accept that certain developments would have lost the Conservative Party seats in the South East, and that there was no option but to build high-speed rail underground and make it cripplingly expensive, why haven't they built fifty thousand flats in Cambridge and Oxford? Why hasn't every Liberal Democrat constituency had a massive reservoir and/or an enormous prison dropped on it? There is literally no downside to these things, and the new inhabitants might even thank you for it with their votes. But no. Worthless.
All the nimby cunts are usually in Tory/LD seats anyway so Starmer definitely needs to stick up a massive middle finger at them as the wagons roll in. Like Jeremy Irons in Die Hard with a Vengeance.
I've no idea where all these Nimby's live, but wherever they are, if they've heard of water neutrality and/or Natural England then your wagon rolling plans are already fucked.
That sort of stuff is easy to get around. The job I’m currently on at work is in a National Park so they’ve us capped to a measly 110 wagons per day.
Anywhere the Lib Dems poll decent numbers. Almost failsafe guide. Bad, bad people, the contemporary Lib Dems, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Their days of being a harmless nothing party are gone, these days they are aggressive downward-punching class warriors.
I dunno, it seems to have massively borked house building down here and, yes whilst there are workarounds, it doesn't really strike me as something which is going to be easily surmountable in the build them build them build them housing policy landscape proposed.
What if the government could just change laws whenever it wanted?
Wetlands > People
When it comes to Building we need to just go full China. Just get on with it. If old people whine,stick them in a concentration camp and use them to create a .co.uk version of Temuignore them. They'll likely only get one term anyway
China's city building policies evidently the envy of the world.
The house building thing is quite interesting. I had no idea that so much of the land that ends up getting designated for development is government/quango owned already, and then, whilst planning I guess is an inherently local issue, delegating it to councils/local authorities just ends up with lol situations where the certain districts assign areas on their neighbouring area's borders as places to build shit loads of housing presumably knowing full well all of those houses will then drain on the other authority in terms of services.
For the love of God. Election. Now.
What even is that?
This one's cool though, top bins. What a baller
I don't even get it. Have they just googled 'footie memes' and gone from there?
I'm not really sure but it definitely gives off Twickenham vibes.
The Super League one is bizarre. The only people that care about it know he had nothing to do with it and also it was like 2 years and 4 Prime Ministers ago.
It's embarrassing to a level that I can't even find it funny anymore.
Late to the party and out of touch. It's very on-brand for them.
Why is Rishi cradling the ball like it's a rugby ball in that top bins one?
And is he in the process of some sort of high five or is he giving the crowd the cupping the ear celebration?
Rishimania is running wild.
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I see Rishimania is taking all the credit for the falling inflation today, just one month after Hunt blamed external forces for it not coming down as expected.
Does anyone buy their bullshit anymore?
I happen to know that Rishi personally went to the inflation head offices, took the bull by the horns and said right, that's enough, we simply cannot carry on like this.
Wonderful leadership.
And then the bull said it was sorry.
External forces being them and the Bank of England not turning the taps off to cheap money in 2021 when every many and their dog could see that there was going to be an inflation issue.
My theory is that the conservative Twitter account is being run by someone who hates the tories. It’s the only way to explain how consistently pathetic it is.
You could replace 'conservative Twitter account' with 'Conservative Party' there and it would be equally valid.
This WASPI stuff seems pretty lol. It all just seems to be well off boomers crying about having had to retire a few years later. "I had to sell the investment property I bought", boo fucking hoo.
Aren't they just retiring at the same age as men now? Thus addressing the inequality they're so against?
I've long had a theory about the boomers (probably read it somewhere originally, I'm not claiming authorship) that they spent their youths looking up to the ageing war generation who commanded instant respect, but when they themselves passed fifty and weren't accorded the same respect by the generation below - because rather than fighting through foxholes in Normandy to earn their deference, they just hopped on cheap housing and became rich - their minds were blown and have ultimately gone down the toilet in a kind of desperate childish reaction.
The more you read 20th/21st century history, the more you realise that basically all of it is to do with the second world war, and still is.
I would like somebody to ask them all how/whether they consider it compared to kids who left school just before tuition fees either came in/were increased.
Fortunately, the sheer cost of paying them all off will likely leave them hanging, because otherwise any government would absolutely have folded on first contact with a bunch of organised entitled twats like this.
Full French level fuckery, please lads.
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