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  • Theresa May's Conservatives

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  • Jeremy Corbyn's Labour

    23 52.27%
  • Tim Farron's Liberal Democrats

    3 6.82%
  • Paul Nuttall's UKIP

    0 0%
  • 2 people's Greens

    1 2.27%
  • Nicholas Durgeon's Scottish Nationalists

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  • Satan's Sinn Fein

    0 0%
  • Dr Ian Paisley's DUP

    0 0%
  • Some other bunch of nonces

    2 4.55%
  • I'm foreign, but I wish I were an Englishman

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Thread: UK General Election 2017 - 8 June

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    If I spent five minutes playing 'Say as many racist things as possible in five minutes' I don't think I'd come up with 'funny tinge'. Fair play to her.

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    Jaysus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    It says something about where I am with politics that there are more 'sides' to take than ever before yet I'm still on none of them.

    I don't want Chuka's fucking 'everything was fine before 2015' position. Corbyn's 'I hate Europe but I'm going to pretend I both do/don't depending on who's asking' is just fucking idiotic and on the other side of the idiot ship, Chris Graylings still got a job in the cabinet despite having less synapses firing off in his brain than a particularly malnourished root vegetable.
    I've been politically homeless since Nick Clegg was, well, Nick Clegg. You get used to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    That is spectacular

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    The fact none of them have called by-elections is revealing. Would they all lose? I would assume so without bothering to check their majorities. Still, fair dos for going through with it like. With any luck a few pinko Conservatives can be flushed out as well.

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    Not only that but they intend to abandon their constituencies at the next election apparently.

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    To do what?

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    I heard they're going to go stand in marginals.

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    You'd have to think that at least Umunna and one or two of the others would have some chance of winning as an independent. Chuka is just this generation's James Purnell, though, so he'll probably be running 6 Music within the decade.

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    Luciana Berger is a great one here. She's the ex-Labour MP from where I grew up and was voted in with a 79.6% share of the vote, but from what I hear from home she's been shite and has been wanted gone for a little while.

    The best part of all of this is she faced a vote of no confidence in her only a week ago, however it was called off at the actual meeting as she and the would-be replacement decided it was best to have party unity in the face of the conservatives. A week later she does this.

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    I reckon actual Margaret Thatcher would get elected in Liverpool with a 60+% share if she ran on the Labour ticket.

    The issue with Berger though is that her leader hasn't defended her against anti-Semitism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    You'd have to think that at least Umunna and one or two of the others would have some chance of winning as an independent. Chuka is just this generation's James Purnell, though, so he'll probably be running 6 Music within the decade.
    Is Tom Watson the last of those twats still standing? I ask because I tried to find forgotten comparisons for them all, got as far as Chris Leslie/Sion Simon, and then decided my life would be better off not reading up on who and what 'Gavin Shuker' is.

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    Talk that some wet Tories might join the Independent Group. Poor old Lib Dems.

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    So wet they're drowning.

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    I'm seeing a lot of complaints about anti-Semitism in Labour and not much actual anti-Semitism. Is this just moaning about not being entirely in line with Israel or is there actually anything to it?

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    The hard left have always been a bit that way inclined, but most of this is a convenient front to attack the Dear Leader on. It's bullshit, but it's bullshit that should probably have been handled a lot better. In the modern age there is no other way to deal with outrage than unconditional compliance with whatever the mob wants, not some nuanced argument about why you aren't paying complete reverence to whatever the International Anti-Holocaust mob deem to be antisemitism.

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    Soubry, Wollaston and Heidi Allen have joined THE GROUP.

    I've not heard of the last one, but presumably the first two had about as much chance of standing as a Conservative at the next election as I do.

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    Could they not just switch to Lib Dems and at least try to give them some substance? Standing on their own, it's just a bunch of women (and token men) doing something nobody's going to notice in a week.

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    If Nick Clegg decides to flush him and his mates down the political u-bend you don't jump into the bowl as soon as the water settles. You get your own toilet, so to speak.

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    Shindig, what is your problem with women? It's really fucking weird. Like, see a therapist levels of weird.

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    It just seems an unnecessary step over something like Brexit. We were never going to come out of negotiations favourably and the EU could not let us go lightly. May comes out of it looking useless but at least she's willing to take the bullet. If it wasn't her, it'd be some other cunt being hit with exactly the same shit.

    EDIT: It's not a problem with women. Just that the ones moving all seem to be women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    It just seems an unnecessary step over something like Brexit. We were never going to come out of negotiations favourably and the EU could not let us go lightly. May comes out of it looking useless but at least she's willing to take the bullet. If it wasn't her, it'd be some other cunt being hit with exactly the same shit.

    EDIT: It's not a problem with women. Just that the ones moving all seem to be women.
    It's just under 50%... Seriously, come to terms with your way of thinking. It'll do you good.

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    You've lost me. Are you talking about Jesus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Shindig, what is your problem with women? It's really fucking weird. Like, see a therapist levels of weird.
    Shincel.

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    Milo of the North.

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    Doesn't really have the same ring. There's only so much you can do, really. Props for trying, though.

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    Here you go Henry

    That's the threshold for antisemitism. Accusing Israel of murder, as they, err, bring about the deaths of 174 people.

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    The theme of most of it seems to be associating British Jews with Israel and/or Jews elsewhere, which is pretty classic anti-Semitism.

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    Isn’t the threshold that he seems to think non-Israeli Jews have to publicly demonstrate “their humanity”? Do Brits with Saudi origin have to condemn Saudi bad acts to show they properly fit into society? Shall all of us non-Isreali Jews just get some special tattoos to show we oppose Isreal’s occupation? If not, are we Zionists and need to be watched for our dual loyalties?

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    Basically yes. Tattoos might be a bit drastic though. A badge should suffice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    The theme of most of it seems to be associating British Jews with Israel and/or Jews elsewhere, which is pretty classic anti-Semitism.
    Well, that's fair enough. It's not the worse thing I've ever heard but that bloke probably crossed a line.

    But - is even that kind of thing really as common as is being made out by the Corbyn-bashers?

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    That's a bit of an impossible question isn't it? How common does it have to be to be equivalent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry View Post
    Well, that's fair enough. It's not the worse thing I've ever heard but that bloke probably crossed a line.

    But - is even that kind of thing really as common as is being made out by the Corbyn-bashers?
    Isn’t the question “Where you naturally able to see it in the link Niko sent before Lewis and I pointed it out in two different fashions?”

    If no, shouldn’t the assumption be that Labour is simply missing it because they are being defensive.

    Isn’t that the standard those of us on the left hold Tories and Republicans to? Shouldn’t we hold ourselves to the same? Or should we be as dismissive as they are because it is politically convenient?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry View Post
    I'm seeing a lot of complaints about anti-Semitism in Labour and not much actual anti-Semitism. Is this just moaning about not being entirely in line with Israel or is there actually anything to it?
    Well another one has left today citing Antisemitism as his reason. How many have to leave before you would consider your Dear Leaders sentiments on our Jewish friends?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Well another one has left today citing Antisemitism as his reason. How many have to leave before you would consider your Dear Leaders sentiments on our Jewish friends?
    He was also saying that he hated Corbyn and he was going to leave before any of this came up so let's not take everyone at face value, eh?

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    Apart from J-Corbz.

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    I've definitey never taken anything Mr. 'I definitely voted remain *wink wink*' Corbyn said at face value.

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    My word, it's beyond satire. "We don't have policies, we have shared values." might be the end of politics as I know it.

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    The problems are bad but their causes... their causes are very good.

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    Without wanting to be all PollsSnake, YouGov have just reported this:

    Con 36
    Lab 23
    Tiggers 18
    LD 6

    I'm a big believer in polls being right (because they basically always are), but that can't be right.

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    It looks like shite, but lol at the Liberal Democrats.

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    What's Tiggers?

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    Scotch Nats? Ah no, The Independent Groupers.

    With Corbyn being manoeuvred towards a second referendum position there must be some part of the Conservative political apparatus that now wants a general election, particularly with those poll numbers.
    Last edited by niko_cee; 25-02-2019 at 11:02 PM.

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    I see the deselection hitman has fallen foul of the antisemitism crisis.

    lol

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    I am gutted - just gutted - that the Sunderland to London Brexit march won't be coming through my area. Could have made a day of it like when the Olympic torch does its rounds.

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    I've seen a bunch of "Brexit might be delayed" headlines, but is there actually a mechanism to make that happen?

    It sounds more like people who jumped out of a plane trying to vote over when they hit the ground.

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    The EU have nothing to lose by allowing it. If they say no, it's 'No Deal'. If they say yes, then the UK will bumble fuck along and potentially hold another referendum.
    Last edited by Spikey M; 28-02-2019 at 11:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItalAussie View Post
    I've seen a bunch of "Brexit might be delayed" headlines, but is there actually a mechanism to make that happen?

    It sounds more like people who jumped out of a plan trying to vote over when they hit the ground.
    The UK can unilaterally revoke the Article 50 process.

    Delay is a bit more consensual, but, as Spikey says, even with President Biscuit's lolworthy proclamations, the EU aren't going to 'non' the UK into a DISASTROUS NO DEAL BREXIT.

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    Maybe not deliberately, but they aren't going to just give us three more months to fuck about either, so you could see them wanting some stupid concession/development that won't fly.

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