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    Yeah he is amazing to watch. He reminds me of a young roy jones and pretty boy floyd. Althoughy i feel he has better skill moves than them both. He has other fights above and below his weight class gunning for him though in m.garcia and rigo. Those are the fights that could bring some challenge to him.

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    Its also been a week of retirements with wlad, juan manuel marquez and tim bradley all calling it quits.

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    Turns out the guy who sparred with McGregor and sounded off about it was full of shit. Video doing the rounds.

    McGregor did knock him down, it wasn't a bad-tempered push.

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    That was clearly going to be the case.

    'Paulie' is a massive dick who wants to be relevant.

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    Surely this is going to be the most fixed fight in history.

    They may as well agree the rematch now.

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    He can knock down an unfit Malinaggi. It's on.

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    It's still kinda looks like he fell backwards. It's a knockdown, but not one to start tweeting about.

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    I don't know why the 'McGregor camp' chose Malinaggi tbh.

    Yeah he's experienced but he's almost as immobile as me.

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    His Twitter is amazing, he's been on full on seethe mode for about 22 hours.

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    I saw Dana White giving it 'IT ONLY TAKES ONE PUNCH' the other day, as if people like Saul Alvarez (and for that matter the other forty-eight people who never touched him) can't punch.

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    Dana is always spouting shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    I saw Dana White giving it 'IT ONLY TAKES ONE PUNCH' the other day, as if people like Saul Alvarez (and for that matter the other forty-eight people who never touched him) can't punch.
    You can basically take those comments as him admitting that McGregor has a puncher's chance and nothing more. He does his best to hype his man, but he started out as a boxing 'agent' and used to run a boxing gym, so he knows the game and can't honestly believe McGregor is going to box Mayweather and win. You can see in all his talk about McGregor hitting like a train and being unorthodox that he's just talking his way round admitting it.

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    I can't remember whether it was him or Joe Rogan (possibly both) who was spinning his lack of boxing experience and 'unorthodox' style. Why not just breakdance him to death?

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    Everyone is spinning that line. Dana White had a decent take on it when he said that Mayweather is so good at not getting hit partly because he just understands the rhythms of boxing so well. If they've just thrown a left jab, chances are a right cross is coming next, etc. McGregor doesn't have the same formal boxing training so he won't conform to those rhythms as closely as someone with forty pro fights would, making him a puzzle to be solved. I'd agree with that to an extent, but he's a puzzle in the same way that a jigsaw for ages 8-11 is, and Mayweather will have him sussed out in half a round.

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    There are so many aspects to boxing that conor probably has no ide how to combat. Correct me if im wrong but in mma, inside fighting or fighting in the pocket does not exist. All this talk about Conor being bigger and stronger, when they get close together conor is just going to over-power Floyd. That is probably not going to happen as people exspect. I would like conor when they get close to throw him to the ground, but floyd hass huge advanatage when they get close in ny opinion.

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    Will lighter gloves really make a difference? I thought they weren't going to be approved, Mahow?

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    Not really. You could do it bare knuckle, you've still got to land a punch for it to make a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Offshore Toon View Post
    Will lighter gloves really make a difference? I thought they weren't going to be approved, Mahow?
    It helps both really.

    Conor will be able to put a bit more power into his punches and on the other hand Floyd will like the slightly increased hand speed.

    As Spikey says though, Conor needs to actually land some punches though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel View Post
    Correct me if im wrong but in mma, inside fighting or fighting in the pocket does not exist.
    It does exist but not to the same extent. In MMA when two fighters get close enough to fight the way boxers do when they're almost leaning on eachother it tends to result in a clinch or one fighter trying to push the other to the fence.

    I think McGregor might give up a point if necessary, try to clinch and just trip or throw Floyd early, in an effort to get in his head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    It does exist but not to the same extent. In MMA when two fighters get close enough to fight the way boxers do when they're almost leaning on eachother it tends to result in a clinch or one fighter trying to push the other to the fence.

    I think McGregor might give up a point if necessary, try to clinch and just trip or throw Floyd early, in an effort to get in his head.
    He should kick floyd in the leg and take the foul. Although im sure the penalties will be extremely harsh. He isnt going to get any warnings, it will be a straight dq.

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    Apparently it's in the contract that if he kicks or knees in any way he forfeits his purse. I'd imagine he could get away with it if he gets badly rocked and starts fighting on instinct or something, but he isn't going to come out in round one and start throwing leg kicks. He'll throw him for two reasons, to make it clear that he's physically stronger, and so that Floyd is looking up at him as early as possible.

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    Pushing isnt that harsh of a foul, he could maybe just wrestle him and throw him to the ground if they get into clinching scenarios.

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    I don't think it'll be a push, as such. I think he'll go as close as he can to a judo toss to really make it clear that he's the stronger man.

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    Yeah, thats the word im looking for. Judo toss.

    I dont feel the strength advantage is all that great though. Its not going to be as one-sided as most people feel it will be.

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    I'm expecting a full-distance boreathon with an inevitable may weather decision after he frustrates mcgregor for the entire fight. I really hope I'm wrong though.
    I'm a twit

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    Quote Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel View Post
    Yeah, thats the word im looking for. Judo toss.

    I dont feel the strength advantage is all that great though. Its not going to be as one-sided as most people feel it will be.
    In a grappling situation the strength difference will be huge.

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    It's a shame the entourage would all pile in if he really went to town on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    I'm expecting a full-distance boreathon with an inevitable may weather decision after he frustrates mcgregor for the entire fight. I really hope I'm wrong though.
    I fear exactly the same

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    You can get that at 3/1.

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    I don't know much, if anything, about boxing, but the odds on McGregor winning and the odds above for it going the distance strike me as absolutely rubbish. Shouldn't Mayweather be about 1/100? What gives?

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    It's odds, not the actual chance of it happening. Or to put it another way, loads of twats are betting on McGregor.

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    You can get McGregor at 100/1 as a special price on Betvictor, £1 max for new customers only though.

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    Surely the outcome is predetermined anyway (i.e. McGregor will do a lot better than expected).

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    He will do a lot better, given he is an active fighter and floyd is on a two year lay-off and is damm near 40.

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    Is a 2 year lay off that big a deal considering he only boxed once every 18 months or so anyway? It's not as if he's let himself go.

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    He hasn't fought once every 18 months since 2010/2012. Since the end of 2012, he fought every 6 months up until 2015. It will affect him. People giving floyd too much credit like time off and age will not affect him.

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    There's that.

    But there is also the fact that HE'S [McGregor's] NOT A FUCKING BOXER.

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    Ok?

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    That's being released as a charity single and McGregor is flying the lad out to Vegas for the fight, so he's done well out of it.

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    Love it.
    I'm a twit

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    It really bugs me how the stars always seem to align for floyd. Here we have the most popular person from another sport, around the same weight class so they can make the fight

    Floyd is good at stealing and capitalising on other fighters sucsesss. When there is light shining on you, here comes floyd offering to fight. You can go back 10 floyd opponents and they all come off arguably the best victories of their career up to that point.

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    Surely defeating somebody isn't stealing their success?

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    Yes it is. He always seems to strike when your hot. When its all eyes on you, he pops up and offers a fight. Its actually a really good statergy he has developed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel View Post
    Yes it is. He always seems to strike when your hot. When its all eyes on you, he pops up and offers a fight. Its actually a really good statergy he has developed.
    What's he supposed to do? Take on people that have just lost to someone lower ranked than he is?

    Although this fight is just a money-grab by both sides, but who can blame them?

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    Yeah it's a strange stick to beat him with. If anything, Mayweather chose not to fight someone like Pacquiao unti he was sure he wouldn't lose. Mayweather wants to maximise the money he makes, McGregor is the same.

    No one really wants to be hit in the head longer than they need to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McAvennie View Post
    What's he supposed to do? Take on people that have just lost to someone lower ranked than he is?

    Although this fight is just a money-grab by both sides, but who can blame them?
    What im saying is, even conor being from a different sport is around the same weight class as him. Everything just lines up perfect for him, all the time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    Yeah it's a strange stick to beat him with. If anything, Mayweather chose not to fight someone like Pacquiao unti he was sure he wouldn't lose. Mayweather wants to maximise the money he makes, McGregor is the same.

    No one really wants to be hit in the head longer than they need to.
    In boxing, i think mayweather figured out that when a boxer looks the best he has in years, is the perfect time to fight them.

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    I know lines changed but i wasnt expecting the conor odds to be that bad. Currently @3.5. Thats madness.

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    Where's the value for Mayweather then? I'm not about to stick £200 on 1.25 odds.

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    Floyd and the decesion. Dont beleive the hype. No one getting stopped.

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