Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
Lots of older people who struggle with weight have gone through weight watchers, slimming world, slim fast etc and there's never any mention of calories in vs calories out just whatever gimmick they're trying to push.

My partners mum was doing slimming world last year and they encourage you to eat as much pasta as you want, no tracking or counting. Just eating it till you're full. It's criminal really.

I tried.to explain to her about counting calories and she was having none of it, she ended up saying all that really matters is sugar so I'll watch that for a bit.
That's not all that slimming world says, to be fair to them. They tell you to fill up a third (or maybe half, I can't remember exactly) of your plate with veg. And the pasta wouldn't be covered with cheese sauce or anything. It's all very low in fat. Their diet actually works.