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    The New Years diet fred (No Tims allowed)

    Following on from the New Years Resolution thread, I thought we should start a thread to chart our dieting progress.

    I have rejoined the gym and done next weeks food shop. Not a crisp in sight. Let's do this.

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    Yeah, I'll be on the no carb thing again come Tuesday. It seemed to work quite well when I did it a few months ago. December's been a disaster though.

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    Why didn't you do it last week?

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    I should but I know well I won't.

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    I'll be attempting to lose as much as possible by April.

    I don't want to look like a beached whale in LA.

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    Why can't Celtic fans diet?

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    Historical memory of the famine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Historical memory of the famine.
    You think they'd be really good at it then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    I'll be attempting to lose as much as possible by April.

    I don't want to look like a beached whale in LA.
    Relax. America is a land of beached whales.

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    I bought myself a spin bike for the flat and a set of scales.

    I was 87.5kg early yesterday and by this morning I was 83.0 kg. I'm currently 83.9 kg.

    The power of being hungry (and actually going to the gym more regularly).

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    What's that in English?

    I used to love the spinning a few years ago. Of all the stuff we did that was the biggest rush.

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    for those of you that don't know; 'Spinning' is cycling for women and gay people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    for those of you that don't know; 'Spinning' is cycling for women and gay people.
    It's fine, I can wear my gym tights and get in the mood.

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    I'm in. I've been going to the gym frequently since September, as well as playing badminton and going for the odd run, I just need to sort my eating. I've definitely packed on about a stone over Christmas, as is tradition, so from here I'll just cut out sugar and that should be that.

    A question for the experienced lifters: is it worth trying to put on muscle whilst on a calorie deficit?

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    I've been running and playing football regularly, and my girlfriend has been on slimming world for months so weight and fitness are pretty good, but I've not been to the gym since October half term and was going less and less before that. Work and having a bit of a life have really put pay to my training, and I've lost some of my definition.

    I'm aiming to go to the gym on a Monday or Tuesday evening and maintain everythings else. I should cut down on the snacking a bit because even though I'm slim I have a chubby face, but I know I won't.

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    My problem is I lose about a stone/stone and a half, then I'm pretty happy with myself and then stop bothering. I think the coming 6 months is the best opportunity I'll have for the rest of my life to properly get into shape, so I'd appreciate it if you all keep calling me a useless fat cunt until I get there. #TeamTH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Offshore Toon View Post
    I'm in. I've been going to the gym frequently since September, as well as playing badminton and going for the odd run, I just need to sort my eating. I've definitely packed on about a stone over Christmas, as is tradition, so from here I'll just cut out sugar and that should be that.

    A question for the experienced lifters: is it worth trying to put on muscle whilst on a calorie deficit?
    Not really. Just try to maintain what you have and lose fat.

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    I've only been doing weightlifting for about a month, so its not like its a big deal. How do people hold on to what they've got? Is there a certain amount of protein intake required? Do you have to just keep lifting at the same weight?

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    Basically. Lift your normal weights, eat enough protein. You will probably lose some muscle mass/strength as it goes on (if you're doing it for six months), but far, far less than you would just not eating and running yourself into the ground.

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    Okay, cool. I won't be doing it for 6 months. I'm thinking 2/3 months of fairly strict dieting/starvation should do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Basically. Lift your normal weights, eat enough protein. You will probably lose some muscle mass/strength as it goes on (if you're doing it for six months), but far, far less than you would just not eating and running yourself into the ground.
    It's absolutely miserable trying to lift heavy/improve when tired/hungry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Offshore Toon View Post
    I'm in. I've been going to the gym frequently since September, as well as playing badminton and going for the odd run, I just need to sort my eating. I've definitely packed on about a stone over Christmas, as is tradition, so from here I'll just cut out sugar and that should be that.

    A question for the experienced lifters: is it worth trying to put on muscle whilst on a calorie deficit?
    A beginner would put muscle on whilst on a defecit, but as you've been going previously - probably not. It is possible to lose fat and gain muscle if you run at very, very close to maintenance levels but it's more likely that you'd just end up spinning your wheels.

    Best off just cutting and trying to maintain the muscle you have, although you will most likely lose some.

    OR, fuck all that and get on the juice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Offshore Toon View Post
    Okay, cool. I won't be doing it for 6 months. I'm thinking 2/3 months of fairly strict dieting/starvation should do it.
    You don't want to cut calories too much. Muscle is calorie hungry so your body would rather bin that than the fat. Try to eat a couple of hundred calories less than you need.

    There are some calorie calculators online that will tell you what you should be eating during cutting, but they wont be hugely accurate for obvious reasons.

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    Anyone here ever tried steroids? It seems like a stupid thing to do and the only people I know that have been on them are absolute tools (I know you weren't being serious).

    I think I might try and get into a routine of: wake up > morning: weightlifting > afternoon/evening: uni work/piss about > late evening: cardio. In my mind, that should set me up to beat late night snacking and also make use of the energy I have for no reason in mornings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    You don't want to cut calories too much. Muscle is calorie hungry so your body would rather bin that than the fat. Try to eat a couple of hundred calories less than you need.

    There are some calorie calculators online that will tell you what you should be eating during cutting, but they wont be hugely accurate for obvious reasons.
    A couple of hundred? Isn't it 3500 calories to lose a pound? So, 200 a day would mean a pound every two weeks. I don't have enough muscle to be bothered about keeping it. I could probably put it all back on in a month easy if I was eating properly. The quickest process seems to be rapidly lose fat and get it don.e

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    If you haven't gained much, then sure, lose the weight then start again. You'd have to bulk slowly too though or that fat would just go straight back on.

    People generally cut/bulk slowly (a pound a week or so) because you just can't lose more fat than that that quickly. if you're losing 2 pounds a week, it's a pound of other stuff too (water, muscle, etc).

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    I really liked weightlifting when I tried it before but the great thing about then was I could go to the gym during the day when it was empty. Fuck going in the evenings now I work full time and waiting around for equipment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    for those of you that don't know; 'Spinning' is cycling for women and gay people.
    Spinning is cycling without being a fucking nuisance to everyone around you.

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    if you don't call having an erection whilst sat in an all female workout class being a nuisance, sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    If you haven't gained much, then sure, lose the weight then start again. You'd have to bulk slowly too though or that fat would just go straight back on.

    People generally cut/bulk slowly (a pound a week or so) because you just can't lose more fat than that that quickly. if you're losing 2 pounds a week, it's a pound of other stuff too (water, muscle, etc).
    Surely its different for proper fat lads.

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    'Turn your day around' is a great phrase for stuff like this. When you feel like shit, just think what little thing you can do that day to make you feel better, and that sets the momentum back in the right direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Offshore Toon View Post
    'Turn your day around' is a great phrase for stuff like this. When you feel like shit, just think what little thing you can do that day to make you feel better, and that sets the momentum back in the right direction.
    Or fuck it and buy a kilo of peanuts.

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    I've downloaded S-Health on my phone and watch.

    Skinny by March then.

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    Am going to bin the chocolate, sweets and cake again, once I finished the last two chunks of this toblerone. I lost around 11 pounds in a month doing this previously (I stopped for Christmas purely because of toblerone//birthday cake) and have put on 4 lbs in that period, so hopefully a return to this will help.

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    @Giggles I use myfitnesspal to count calories and it helps me control my weight. Recommend it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    @Giggles I use myfitnesspal to count calories and it helps me control my weight. Recommend it.
    It's not doing a very good job. You need to put on about two stone.

    Seriously though, I could never be arsed putting in every food into one of those apps, they just don't have the database of brands that would be required for accuracy. The Mrs uses that one to track all her workouts but she finds the same for foods and doesn't bother.

    I'm going to use this to track my water and coffee intakes though. Half for something to do on the watch, and half because I reckon I drink around 8 litres of coffee a week and 0 water and I want to see if that's accurate.

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    I haven't found it too much of an issue as I just type in generic foods where can't find what I want. It's a pretty good ball mark indicator.

    2 stone would make me 14 stone and way overweight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    It's not doing a very good job. You need to put on about two stone.

    Seriously though, I could never be arsed putting in every food into one of those apps, they just don't have the database of brands that would be required for accuracy. The Mrs uses that one to track all her workouts but she finds the same for foods and doesn't bother.

    I'm going to use this to track my water and coffee intakes though. Half for something to do on the watch, and half because I reckon I drink around 8 litres of coffee a week and 0 water and I want to see if that's accurate.
    How can you reckon you drink no water and need to track it? Surely that's just something you know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamski View Post
    How can you reckon you drink no water and need to track it? Surely that's just something you know?
    Like I said, it's for something to do. I aim to drink more water than coffee a day.

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    MyFitnessPal isn't that much of a pain once you get into the swing of things, but I still won't be using it. Ultimately its not that accurate, plus there are quite a few days where I'll end up eating more than I actually need because I'm below my goal.

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    Just been to the gym for the first time in over a year, my fitness levels have hit rock bottom but I'm surprised at how little strength I lost. My squat has lost about 50kg which I should be able to get back in a few months, my Bench has lost about 25kg which might take a bit longer to get back.

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    You'll quit before the end of the month.

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    Fuck off Tim.

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    Lost 25kg? Fucking hell, I don't think I could ever even lift 25kg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    Lost 25kg? Fucking hell, I don't think I could ever even lift 25kg
    Surely your wife weighs at least four times that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foe View Post
    Surely your wife weighs at least four times that?
    I don't have a wife, nor would I bench press her if I did.

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    Foe's claws must weigh about 25kg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    I don't have a wife, nor would I bench press her if I did.
    Magic will end up deadlifting his at some point.

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    I'm reliably informed by the mate I built up the gym with in 2013 that it was 72kg when I gave it up. That said I knew a lad could do over 150 so it's still pretty pitiful.

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