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    Fucking hell Wales.

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    That's their tournament and they know it. Scotland are a free pass to the semis for the winner here.

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    The small in goal areas are always awful. Are Warrington shit now, Lewis?

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    Fucking hell. Australia playing like champions.

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    It's just plain depressing England lost to this Welsh mob.

    Also good to see Dan Biggar forgot how to kick them over from straight in front this week, typical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    The small in goal areas are always awful. Are Warrington shit now, Lewis?
    Yeah. They didn't have any creativity all season (crap halves and fullback), so whenever somebody stood up to them they just fell to bits.

    Danny McGuire loves a Grand Final.

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    Yorkshire.

    Best Super League team of my lifetime.

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    I can just about see Suarez scoring a pair of tries to troll England at another sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Yorkshire.

    Best Super League team of my lifetime.
    Sinfield's haul

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    So many dons in that side.

    On to the England vs New Zealand (minus their good players) series. No Matty Smith, with his 'organising', please, selectors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    Scotland's passing has been horrific.
    Quote Originally Posted by hfswjyr
    This Scottish team is infuriating. Learn to throw the final pass!
    Again, not indicative of most of the individuals on display. Russel in particular is normally a fine distributor.

    Again, indicative of Scotland v Pacific Islanders (also goes for Ireland and France actually) - big bastards don't half hurt us and the handling and passing goes astray as soon as you start over anticipating the contact you're running into.

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    England are so fucking bad. Constant handling errors. I saw it said by some big rugby name the other day that we're trying to play a 'brand of rugby' that our players just aren't good enough for. Is there anything in that? I wouldn't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    England are so fucking bad. Constant handling errors. I saw it said by some big rugby name the other day that we're trying to play a 'brand of rugby' that our players just aren't good enough for. Is there anything in that? I wouldn't know.
    Yes and no.

    Traditionally Scotland (lol), Wales and France played the flair stuff. England were massively attritional and Ireland were shit. Wales are now amongst the more attritional and France take the piss. Ireland are an odd one - capable of expansive stuff but get bogged down in their admittedly quite special ability to be absolute cunts and play on the fringes of the rules, and exploiting them, because it yields smaller winning margins but is much more safe and consistent in getting the win at any cost.

    England have the players to play expansive, heads up rugby these days and the Premiership is far, far more expansive than the old club rugby days of yesteryear.

    However, the squad taken to the world cup was not sufficient to do so - particularly in the centres, and when Farrell is at 10.

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    We should stick to playing shit. 2007 should be our model.

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    With squad, especially with Farrell playing 10 (what the fuck?) it ought just be Woodward-ball on a continual basis.

    Thing is... Wales Gatland-ball is actually probably superior, as are key players for them in that gameplan (both centres, all three back rowers and 10 & 9 when Webb is fit). So you'd probably still have been up against it against them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    England are so fucking bad. Constant handling errors. I saw it said by some big rugby name the other day that we're trying to play a 'brand of rugby' that our players just aren't good enough for. Is there anything in that? I wouldn't know.
    http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/a...ectid=11523622

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    I haven't the foggiest about the rules of Rugby (and am in some doubt as to whether anyone really does) but the two things which annoy me most about watching it are the catch and drive shit, which is so ubiquitous now (was it ever thus?) and the 'rush defence', which both serve to essentially eradicate any hope of an interesting game from a viewing perspective.

    Also, lol at that Wigan kick in the last minute. Don't think I've ever seen anyone do that before.

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    The kick up in the air and backwards? Massive fuck up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    I haven't the foggiest about the rules of Rugby (and am in some doubt as to whether anyone really does) but the two things which annoy me most about watching it are the catch and drive shit, which is so ubiquitous now (was it ever thus?) and the 'rush defence', which both serve to essentially eradicate any hope of an interesting game from a viewing perspective.

    Also, lol at that Wigan kick in the last minute. Don't think I've ever seen anyone do that before.
    The line out maul was an English speciality before professionalism, and Scots too. But they were looser. Now, it's almost indefensible and shite. We've used it really effectively this tournament, but I hate it. So agree it's a shit element. It just needs balancing in the rules- basically let the defence take it down.

    Regarding rush defence, I enjoy a good line speed - if you've played and watch a lot of rugby, defence is easier to appreciate, particularly when a rush leads to isolation of a ball carrier. Also, from an attacking perspective it can be fun. It's ubiquitous in pro12 and Southern Hemisphere rugby, but opportunism off the back of it is also common and exciting. On the international stage, less so.

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    They should just bin lineout lifting again.

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    The way to fix the driving maul is to prevent players joining past ball carrier or sliding up past the ball carrier. A proper rolling maul is a thing of beauty!

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    That's already banned but not policed well enough. Regardless, just let it be dragged down legally like the old days.

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    It's not really enforced though is it? Every nation gets away with truck and trailier mauling at the moment.

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    As I say, not policed well enough.

    But still - even then, execute it within the law and there's nothing legal to stop it. Let the defending team take it down. It's dogshit safferball nonsense.

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    Blow it up as soon as the first player joins above or slides up past the trailer/ball carrier.

    All the illegal stuff happens right at the start so unless it's right away we are left with the run away train nonsense.

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    Ireland v Australia semi should be good. Ireland look like they could shit their way past just about anyone, although they'll need someone else to account for New Zealand. France are absolute dross, so they'll probably turn in a miracle performance against them next weekend..

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    France were properly reversing back over their own corpses in that game just now, which is bad news for the All Blacks as you say.

    Argies won't roll over either. Scotland will.

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    It was out patriotic duty to make it as difficult as possible for the likes of Ireland. That game should have been played in Norwich.

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    Some Aussie (probably Chris Broad) has banned as many jocks as he can from the rest of the world cup.



    Is there any way to make it so most players aren't injured or suspended by the end of this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Some Aussie (probably Chris Broad) has banned as many jocks as he can from the rest of the world cup.



    Is there any way to make it so most players aren't injured or suspended by the end of this?
    What an idiotic conspiracy theory.

    They were cited by an Australian commissioner, but he had nothing to do with the result which was reached by an English QC. And given it wound up rubbing them out for three weeks (would have been five, but they added a two-week reduction for having a clean disciplinary record), I think it's safe to say he was on the money.

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    They dumped a bloke on his head...

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    Was Pat O'Cake retiring from international rugby anyway, or have Ireland told him to piss off for going to France?

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    I think he was anyway.

    Anyway, sore subjects, Ex-Wales international Jonathan Davies has described the tournament's disciplinary hearings as a "disgrace".

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/34529687

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    Red face Fantasy Super League 2016

    Who'll play Fantasy Super League next season? (Starts late Jan/early Feb 2016)

    There's Love Rugby League or there's Super League Dream Team.

    I picked a team on the former in February (missed GW1) but forgot to change it all season so don't know if it's any good.
    I'm a twit

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    I'll do one if I don't have to fiddle with it every week.

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    I just had a great masterbation session of Shaun Johnson

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    Roger Tuivasa-Sheck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Roger Tuivasa-Sheck.
    I think I got that Rugby League love-in again.

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    You've timed that well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    I think he was anyway.

    Anyway, sore subjects, Ex-Wales international Jonathan Davies has described the tournament's disciplinary hearings as a "disgrace".

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/34529687
    Ford and Junior are big losses, the latter more so with Gilchrist already out. If big Jim steps out of international retirement to be called up (having retired as soon as he missed out on the 31 man squad I see him stepping back in) it's going to be all kinds of bad news for the penalty count.

    Cheika, by the way is a cunt. Proper cunt. Tyring to hijack Taquele Naiyarovoro's move to Glasgow was up there amongst the cuntiest things he's ever done too, as well as capping him to tie him up for his eventual return. I'd shag him with a cactus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItalAussie View Post
    What an idiotic conspiracy theory.

    They were cited by an Australian commissioner, but he had nothing to do with the result which was reached by an English QC. And given it wound up rubbing them out for three weeks (would have been five, but they added a two-week reduction for having a clean disciplinary record), I think it's safe to say he was on the money.
    Nobody suggested a conspiracy for fucks sake.

    Just that the citings have been utter bollocks so far - so many inconsistencies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Merse View Post
    Nobody suggested a conspiracy for fucks sake.

    Just that the citings have been utter bollocks so far - so many inconsistencies.
    Really?

    Some Aussie (probably Chris Broad) has banned as many jocks as he can from the rest of the world cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItalAussie View Post
    Really?
    It's clearly a flippant comment highlighted by the use of , from someone with no reason to lament the suspension of two Scots.

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    He isn't good enough for International Rugby anyway so consider it a blessing in disguise that he won't be turning out for Scotland.
    @The Merse

    The bloke is proper mercenary and was going to put his hand up for your lot after 3 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Merse View Post
    It's clearly a flippant comment highlighted by the use of , from someone with no reason to lament the suspension of two Scots.
    Fair enough. I'd just been reading the comments on the Guardian article, of which a large portion make the same suggestion entirely unironically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queenslander View Post
    He isn't good enough for International Rugby anyway so consider it a blessing in disguise that he won't be turning out for Scotland.
    @The Merse

    The bloke is proper mercenary and was going to put his hand up for your lot after 3 years.
    No, I didn't want him turning out for Scotland. Rather would see him play for Fiji.

    Not a fan of 'project players'. Now Nel and Strauss are in the dark blue, I'll support them and even trot out the McNel/Jock McStrauss stuff, but they oughtn't be there.

    Junior Bulamakau will likely be capped - correctly. Been here since he was 10 as his dad was in the army and has a weird Weegee-Fiji mix of an accent, that'll do. Even Visser was ok - there's no real Dutch test standard team to speak of, whilst the likes of Big Jim are the kind of English you want - like me, Midlands schooled from a Scots/Irish heavy area, first generation to be down here, plenty of pics in Scotland tops as a kid shared in a programme... But the likes of Henry Pyrgos probably oughtn't... It's too complex to govern as really it's a question of whether the lad identifies with the nation, and that's hard to qualify.

    Anyway, Naiyarovoro shouldn't play for Australia or Scotland really. He probably will be international standard though - watched about 10 games of his last year and the man can finish like a bulldozer.

    Cheika was a cunt for getting involved and trying to unsettle him before he'd arrived, not for capping him so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItalAussie View Post
    Fair enough. I'd just been reading the comments on the Guardian article, of which a large portion make the same suggestion entirely unironically.
    Ah -yeah fair one- all Guardian comments sections are pretty similar mind, no matter how banal the article might be.

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    Call the citing commissioner.

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    The French team has apparently mutinied.

    RUMOURS have emerged in the French press that the France rugby side have staged a “discreet” rebellion, sidelined embattled coach Phillipe Saint-Andre and begun coaching themselves ahead of the World Cup quarter-finals.
    http://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/ru...-1227571108902

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    Look at Boris eyeing that kid up, in his mind is I am going to fucking crush you. ahaha

    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post


    Call the citing commissioner.

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