Offside.
Offside.
Jammy wankers, it's going to take some world class choking for NZ to bin it against any of this lot.
How does offside work in rugby?Originally Posted by Queenslander
It's such an infuriatingly impenetrable set of rules.
Its the hope that kills you, eh, lads?
Yaaaaaaaas, the bitterness.
In general it's when you're ahead of the ball/play and affecting the game.
It just gets better. I could get into this game
It is. I've enjoyed what I've made time for and have quite liked the Leicester games I've been to but I understand, at most, about two percent of what's going on.
In before death threats.
Indeed. The amount of conversations I've had with people in 'the pub' that contain the words "I've been watching it for years" and "I only understand about x% of it" is staggering.
And 'accidental offside', you fucking wot?
World Rugby need to tell the TMO's to fuck off unless dangerous play has taken place.
I feel sorry for Sean Maitland because that was such a shit yellow card.
Shambles. All home nations knocked out. What sports are we actually any good at these days?
We've the 'World' champion in snooker.
The ref should never ref another international again on account of his conduct at full time. Hastings sounds like he's going to spark him out at the first opportunity.
Rugby's too civilised; that sort of shit should result in a riot.
Motor sports.
Deliberate knock on.
Which was very, very, very debatable - hence the analysts at the end there and Laidlaw's seethe at the TMO not being used (actually that was the offside at the end - the TMO picked over Maitland for fucking ages).
Two big calls have shagged us a bit. Maitland shouldn't have gone for a yellow, and the offside at the end was pretty dodgy at best - but Brycey screwed the throw and Denton the jump so to be fair, we put ourselves in that position.
Immense pride nonetheless.
If we play like that again, we won't even get to the final to lose to NZ.
I think the ref is getting some harsh treatment. Every pundit / reporter I've listened to has said it was the right call and that the ref wasn't able to use TMO in that situation.
Still, absolutely gutted for Scotland. What a performance they put in.
I guess it's good for the tournament as it sets up a Australia - New Zealand final. I know everyone will be writing Australia off but they have beaten England and Wales fairly convincingly.
I know nothing about Rugby, but I can't read body language to a decent level and spot bullshit from biased pundits a mile off and the ITV mob were definitely guilty of that in the aftermath.
Who, exactly?
lol at this not being a penalty:
https://vine.co/v/e9nv1AZXItI
I don't know the names. It was on either the news or the ITV highlight show.
Not that I'm saying it was 100% the correct call. I don't have a clue on the rules of rugby.
I've not seen any such pundits, but I'd imagine they're fair dinkum cobbers mate.
Lol at the idea of a ref running off the pitch at the end of a game. I hope Hastings does catch up with him.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-u...linkname=sport
That seems a pointless thing to be announcing publicly.Referee Craig Joubert was wrong to award a crucial 78th-minute penalty against Scotland in Sunday's World Cup quarter-final defeat by Australia, says World Rugby.
Scotland led 34-32 at Twickenham when Jon Welsh was ruled deliberately offside for playing the ball after a knock-on by a team-mate.
The governing body said that, because Australia's Nick Phipps touched the ball, "the appropriate decision should have been a scrum to Australia for the original knock-on".
I agree he's being vilified too harshly. I'm not a Joubert fan - grimaced at him being named ref of this after the NZ v France debacle in last RWC final (he was incredibly inconsistent in NZ's favour throughout), but still it's harsh when the man made a call in real time. However - the call was wrong, and even World Rugby have admitted it in the match report, along with Lynagh (the only ITV pundit that said he wasn't sure). Having said all of that, it's Scotland's own fault for making him make that decision - it was a stupid lineout call. Just go short and churn it.
He did also miss the late hit on Hogg immediately before the lineout, which should have been a pen, and additionally the yellow was harsh as fuck. So a bad day at the office, but we do all have them. Commiserate and critique, but let's not pillory the man. Some of the ex-internationals (of all nationalities) have gone over the top.
The thing I agree is truly poor, is him running off. Poor, poor show.
Arguably worse than the one that saw Hoggy sent off in the '14 6 Nations v Wales.
In what will surely turn out to be the best decision they ever make, Manly have hired John Hopoate to coach their under-eighteens.
Wasn't he the anal rapist?
He was giving them wedgies.
I remember it but had no idea until looking on Wikipedia that he used wedging as his excuse - 'just got it wrong 3 times boss, poor technique'. Who in their right fucking minds does that three times? Hardly inconspicuously so. I could better imagine it in rugby union in a breakdown or maul situation, but that's just insane. In those circumstances.
You have your answer.
This is a decent game. I hope the Boers win.
I know there are conflicts here, but the English ref should really stop being so pro-Australian.
Horrible team Australia, led by a total dickhead of a coach.
You'd forget the sport ever existed or that this tournament was even still on here
Bandwagon cunts.
Argies have literally no composure and it's cost them. Australia are allowed to basically do what they want at the breakdown which doesn't help.
"Do whatever they want" = "Good enough to dominate the breakdown legally"
Pocock was offside about 40 times in the second half, cue 'legitimate counter-rucking!'. Wayne Barnes being fucking useless isn't a new thing though.
They're the sort of team the All Blacks will bottle it against, too.
It'd be nice if the ABs steamrollered them.
Part of me really wants to see NZ bottle it again but I'm not sure it's really on the cards.
The All Blacks fitness might be a bit too much for us I fear.
English Rugby is used to plodders in the back row maybe if Neil Back was playing the rules of the breakdown might be better understood.
If any back row is following the letter of the law he isn't doing it right.
He's not at Rutchie levels of cheating though. Pocock is just too powerful once he is over the ball.
We're the same as any other side. It's just that Pocock is so good that he makes it count every single time.
Either way, the All-Blacks are still better than us man-for-man. Winning isn't out of the question, but it'd be a pretty substantial upset. Given where we were a year ago, and the group we got drawn into, I'd say that making the final at all exceeds expectations by about a round-and-a-half. As long as we don't collapse totally in the final, I think that Australia will be pretty satisfied irrespective of the outcome.
I feel like everyone who watches rugby must be happy to see Argentina coming along so well, though. They've earned a seat at the top table, and rugby's better for it.
The real question is who is going to win the World Cup first, out of Argentina, Wales, Ireland or Scotland?
The Super team will have 22 players out of this World Cup squad which is exciting.
Probably none. New Zealand and South Africa are always going to work out better because rugby is just such a big deal there. England have only managed a solitary win when everything aligned perfectly one time, and France have not yet done it.
Argentina definitely have the best chance though. It may sound silly but I just don't think a country like Ireland or Wales will ever win a World Cup in any major team sport. They just don't have the psyche for it.
France/Argentina might be the big race. There'll be a new winner eventually.
I don't buy national psyche rubbish - I see it as lazy thinking - but we've had that discussion before.
The football World Cup is all the proof you need.
The Top 14 will hold the French back unless they change the rules on foreigners.
Once Argentina get their on professional league below Super Rugby I think they be very dominant. To think they have got this far with an amateur system is incredible.
In fairness, eight countries have won it, and three of those have only won it once (two of those at home). It's not exactly easy to win.
Why is rugby big in Argentina? I thought it was basically restricted to British colonies like cricket is.
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