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    Does the real terms funding stuff come from some sort of inflation fudge? As, I assume, depending on how you treat inflation is going to have a significant distorting effect on figures during the course of this parliament.

    The better funding lie is just bleating on ad infinitum about 'record levels of funding' as if growth and [controlled] inflation - ie the essence of western economics - doesn't necessitate that as a bare minimum.

    Lies, damn lies and statistics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Presumably the best thing to do for the country would be to go bd in nuclear power, but the country don't want that so we won't.
    It shouldn't be about what the nimby's want. It should be about what is best for the country. I always use where I live as a good example a nuclear power plant would actually be a massive benefit for the area. Lots of well paid and skilled jobs as opposed to somewhere at the minute which is on it's arse. But, no one would ever want it because they would be too worried about some kind of meltdown destroying the town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Does the real terms funding stuff come from some sort of inflation fudge? As, I assume, depending on how you treat inflation is going to have a significant distorting effect on figures during the course of this parliament.

    The better funding lie is just bleating on ad infinitum about 'record levels of funding' as if growth and [controlled] inflation - ie the essence of western economics - doesn't necessitate that as a bare minimum.

    Lies, damn lies and statistics.
    Even with generous measures of inflation it's static.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Remain lied as well, they just were nowhere near as good at it as leave due to the misguided belief that they were a shoe in to win.

    I've been working under the assumption that the vast majority of remain voters blame racism and the LIES for the result as it's the best way they can cope with something they just can't fathom otherwise.
    But, again you live in Oxford so you don't have the same level of insight into what it is actually like in the parts of the country which get 'forgotten about' me and RL live reasonably close to each other and for example over the past 25 years there has been a massive influx of Eastern Europeans to all the small market towns round here. Lot's of people blame them for the way this area has been allowed to decay over this timescale and I can guarantee those same people would be thinking that by voting for Brexit those people would stop coming(they have, to be replaced now by a new bogeyman trying to enter the country instead) and would be British stuff for British people. That's what people were lied to about.
    Last edited by Luke Emia; 15-01-2024 at 03:35 PM.

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    Maybe we need a maximum voting age as well as a minimum one?

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    We need a maximum driving age, that's for sure. The fossils have always been shit drivers but the Bovid era has really stepped up their incompetence.

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    A few people on here need to switch off the TV and have a lie down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    You are in academia right? If you falsified some data to reach a conclusion you wanted in some research and got caught, how would that "work"?
    It doesn't. Academia is rife with fabrication and data falsification, and hardly anyone cares. So much for trusting the experts.

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    Which reminds me: Lol at the former Harvard president.

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    I don't even

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    Has he been reading Barton's tweets?

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    The videos probably on Documenting Reality.
    I'm a twit

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    Surprised it was that high tbh.

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    That's about 3 thousand more people than watched the Queens Funeral on Sky Sports News.

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-68007571

    One for nightmare fuel junkies. Also a terrific bit of council speak here:

    The family was known to children's services and Lincolnshire County Council confirmed it had launched a review into the case.

    Its executive director of children services, Heather Sandy, described the deaths as "devastating" and "tragic".

    "Kenneth has passed away at his home," she told BBC Radio 4's World at One.

    "He was at home on his own with Bronson and that meant that there was nobody left to give Bronson care, and sadly as a result of that, Bronson has also passed away."
    Reads like a bit of anodyne punditry on Fulham v Watford.

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    Jesus. That's brutal.

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    Am I reading this right that basically the social workers kept alerting the police and had to get the landlady to sort it?

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    How does a 60 year old man have a toddler child and did the mother fall in a river or something? By something, of course, I mean the balloon.

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    The mum has been in the media blaming social services apparently.

    He must have been a top shagger, explains the heart attack. My dad sired my half brother when he was 56

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    Fuck me, I wish I could go back in time and not click that link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SvN View Post
    Fuck me, I wish I could go back in time and not click that link.
    100%. His little face in the picture.

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    My first thought (a self-indulgent one but it's pertinent I think) was that I wish that the SIX coppers who broke my door down within about 2 hours that time could have found the wherewithal to break that door in Skegness down instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SvN View Post
    Fuck me, I wish I could go back in time and not click that link.
    Yep, I'm gutted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    The mum has been in the media blaming social services apparently.

    He must have been a top shagger, explains the heart attack. My dad sired my half brother when he was 56
    My Dad had his youngest (of 7) when he was 64.

    His final wife was younger than his two oldest kids.

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    That's heartbreaking.

    The story, not Mahow's dad.

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    You lot should try swapping your empathy for apathy.
    I'm a twit

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    Is that official Mental Health First-aid?

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    Sounds like the chatbot was bang on.

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    I'm actually quoted in the article.

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    Europe is slowly waking up

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    I'd never vote for them, but if you believe in democracy then "the far right" and "the far left" have every right to exist and to be represented. Even if they do want to send Kiko to Northern Africa.

    It's not democracy if you just have a load of centrists to choose from.

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    They don't have a load of centrists.

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    They might not, I have no knowledge of German politics. We do though. At the next election our choice will be Tory (fractionally right of centre) or Labour (increasingly less left of centre) or Lib Dem (couldn't be more in the centre). All "extremes" have either been criminalised or had their media coverage removed.

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    Europe gave extremism a decent crack in the 20th century. Mixed results, perhaps. Tens of millions of deaths, but in return we got Le Carre and I quite like the Volkswagen logo.

    Let's put it this way, you can understand German anxiety about a right wing party having secret meetings about mass deportation of ethnic groups it doesn't like.

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    Yep. It has a very specific history it would like to avoid repeating.

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    Granted, but democracy is democracy. If there's a problem with immigration, you need a party that wants to deal with it. If such parties are illegal, you don't have a democracy.

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    What's democratic about kicking out actual citizens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    What's democratic about kicking out actual citizens?
    Ask my girl Shamima. ��

    But yeah, nothing. Which is why they won't get elected. It does, however, motivate the popular parties to take up more moderate positions on immigration etc.

    It's a balancing act. You need the extremes to be represented in both directions or you end up with a broken system. You can't just pretend skin heads and communists don't exist. They don't take kindly to being ignored.

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    I’d normally be against banning this sort of thing but in Germany’s case I’ll make an exception. Still, if this party is actually popular enough to win and they’re banned won’t that lead to serious civil unrest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    I’d normally be against banning this sort of thing but in Germany’s case I’ll make an exception. Still, if this party is actually popular enough to win and they’re banned won’t that lead to serious civil unrest?
    Exactly that. People won't just say "oh, I won't be racist anymore then". They'll just go somewhere else. Maybe a Beer hall.

    You have to listen to these people, unsavoury as they may be.

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    Oh and it might just be the perception I have from the BBC overstating the problem, but if they’re not and Europe really is being swept by the far right then sadly Lewis was right, wasn’t he? It just hasn’t reached here yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Exactly that. People won't just say "oh, I won't be racist anymore then". They'll just go somewhere else. Maybe a Beer hall.

    You have to listen to these people, unsavoury as they may be.
    I think another thing we need to ask seriously is are they actually racist or are they reacting to a genuine problem? Sweeping it under the carpet as racism is convenient and all, but are Swedish people, for example, suddenly racist en masse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Oh and it might just be the perception I have from the BBC overstating the problem, but if they’re not and Europe really is being swept by the far right then sadly Lewis was right, wasn’t he? It just hasn’t reached here yet.
    Yeah the far right hasn't reached the UK yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Oh and it might just be the perception I have from the BBC overstating the problem, but if they’re not and Europe really is being swept by the far right then sadly Lewis was right, wasn’t he? It just hasn’t reached here yet.
    I am ON THE RECORD for being broadly in support of immigration, but the truth is largely as Jimmy had it the other day. We don't address the cons. Only the pro's.

    There are problems with immigration. Mainly the lack of integration and it is going to piss an element of society off. I think it's already here. The stuff at the Cenotaph was a glimpse of it. But, they don't have a BNP or National Front, so I do wonder how it will play out.

    I think we're probably too British for anything much to happen, mind. Just old men grumbling over Sheperd's pies at the pub.
    Last edited by Spikey M; 21-01-2024 at 10:31 AM.

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    The AFD are literal Nazis.

    The general issue is people feeling poorer and some going to the extreme right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    I think another thing we need to ask seriously is are they actually racist or are they reacting to a genuine problem? Sweeping it under the carpet as racism is convenient and all, but are Swedish people, for example, suddenly racist en masse?
    Discussion allegedly focused on so-called "remigration" - the removal of millions of asylum seekers, "non-assimilated" people and those with "non-German" backgrounds, even if they hold residency rights and citizenship.
    That should tell you everything you need to know, really. It's not just the ones there illegally they want to deport. It's a pretty wide remit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    Yeah the far right hasn't reached the UK yet
    Such a moronic response and symptomatic of the left’s idiotic way of dealing with this problem.

    How many politicians from far right parties do we have elected or about to be elected?

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