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    Well especially on that call. What's he gonna do, sack you twice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    A similar thing is happening in the US with 'Latinx', with most actual Hispanic folk preferring the terms Hispanic, Latino or Latina. Guardian journo's currently scrambling to blame the Latinx term as being the creation of a white monster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Well especially on that call. What's he gonna do, sack you twice?
    "Err ... some background sound came through there. Can I remind you all to mute?"

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    18 month ban for bullying another jockey.

    A trainer was photographed throwing up a peace sign while sat on a dead horse and only got a 12 month ban.
    I'm a twit

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    People > Horses.

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    I don't give a shit about horses and I still think you're wrong.

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    Take it up with whatever passes for horse racing authorities, them not giving much of a shit about horses should be no real surprise.

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    I saw the below posts before the news story and thought Bryony Frost was the name of the horse.

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    This is properly mental, and what I meant the other day about public health whammers not living in the real world.

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    Why?
    I'm a twit

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    Maybe not applicable in the instant case, but it gets a bit sketchy when a legislature can be passing laws which will universally not apply to themselves [ie the people voting], but will to other citizens or whatever you want to call them.

    If it's that big a deal just outright ban them.

    Also, a bit pointless what with the whole parliamentary sovereignty thing meaning the next parliament could just delete the law.

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    Jimmy is getting his film.

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    Maybe they're the same six coppers who smashed my front door down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post


    Maybe they're the same six coppers who smashed my front door down.
    They heard you had a Llama up there.

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    I'm just gonna leave this here and see what the good people of TTH think.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...ngham-59613311

    Birmingham City have renamed part of their stadium in memory of six-year-old Arthur Labinjo-Hughes.

    The family zone will be called Arthur's Area and will be "a fun-filled space for young supporters to enjoy prior to kick-off", the club said.

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    So they've renamed what, the creche? A family cafe bit or something?

    You'd be doing well to get worked up about that.

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    I imagine most clubs would do the same. He was a Birmingham fan wasn't he? I seem to remember him having a Birmingham shirt which they destroyed to punish him.

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    Clubs name stuff after people all the time, I don't see the issue.

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    Yep, not an issue at all. The 'RIP Arthur 6' printed shirts that were on display were on a par with the poppy-covered mannequins at Remembrance day, but this is a nice gesture.

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    Birmingham are just Cringe FC, but the bit about that story I never got was why the uncle never went round because he was threatened with lockdown arrest. And? Go round, get yourself arrested, and then when they investigate it... Profit. Even if nothing happens because the same useless cunt social workers are on the job, at least you don't have to spend the rest of your life telling yourself that you didn't bother trying to save your nephew because you might have been fined sixty quid.

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    Credit to the Dailty Mail for following TTH's style guidelines though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Birmingham are just Cringe FC, but the bit about that story I never got was why the uncle never went round because he was threatened with lockdown arrest. And? Go round, get yourself arrested, and then when they investigate it... Profit. Even if nothing happens because the same useless cunt social workers are on the job, at least you don't have to spend the rest of your life telling yourself that you didn't bother trying to save your nephew because you might have been fined sixty quid.
    I try not to generalise about and shit on other professions, but in my experience social workers are universally absolutely incompetent.

    A lot of the time they end up making friends with the parents, become completely blind to what's going on and will actively defend them to other professionals who have concerns.

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    Do you see a lot of kids who've been smacked about RL? Presume it's a piece of piss to spot and must be horrific, although I guess you become desensitised to these things over time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    I try not to generalise about and shit on other professions, but in my experience social workers are universally absolutely incompetent.

    A lot of the time they end up making friends with the parents, become completely blind to what's going on and will actively defend them to other professionals who have concerns.
    I "work with" Social Workers atleast a few times a month and I can count the number of positive encounters on one hand. Most of them spend their time just trying to palm off their workload.

    I spoke to one last week that wouldn't remove a child from a known drug dealers house because "he'd only run away and come back".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Do you see a lot of kids who've been smacked about RL? Presume it's a piece of piss to spot and must be horrific, although I guess you become desensitised to these things over time.
    Quite a few yeah. It got a LOT worse during lockdowns (I would say anecdotally we were seeing five times as many as is usual for us).

    It's often not as straightforward as you'd. Some are, but you see quite a few injuries where you absolutely can't say for sure whether it's inflicted or not.

    Some of the shit you see from social workers is unreal though. We had one the other week where a mum had fled an abusive partner from another region of the country with the kid. Kid had injuries who mum was worried might have been caused by the dad, but had never seen him actually hit the child (only her). The social worker saw her, did nothing about it and just told her to rock up to a hospital in a few days

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    Sounds like Social Workers are incredibly lazy.

    What's the crack when you suspect a kid has been abused? Straight on the phone to the rozzers or does that only happen in tv dramas and you just contact the social workers?

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    They're Civil Service staff. They'll be over worked, under staffed, under paid, poorly managed and drowning in paperwork.

    I imagine they all start out keen and well intentioned. I don't think you'd go into that line of work if you weren't. It'll be the system that's the problem.

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    They absolutely are overworked but a lot of the stuff I take issue with - like them blatantly getting taken in by the parents - aren't "overwork" issues.

    I doubt they're lazy in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Sounds like Social Workers are incredibly lazy.

    What's the crack when you suspect a kid has been abused? Straight on the phone to the rozzers or does that only happen in tv dramas and you just contact the social workers?
    It all gets done by my seniors, but I think initially we contact CADs (whatever that stands for) and it goes from there. Whether and how quickly police get involved depends on how significant the injuries are and how definite it is they were inflicted.

    I have seen a parent arrested from the ward though.

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    All they need is more funding. The solution to every problem.

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    Probably, if it's directed well. Better training and more of them definitely needed.

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    It probably doesn't help that a lot of people who go into the job are thickos. It's another HR.

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    The civil service basically runs on people ducking making decisions/taking responsibility for things, so, in these sort of areas it must be especially easy to just leave things as they are. If you play the odds then not many kids get abused and killed, and if they do then you can point to the process and the organisation will cover your arse; but if you prematurely remove them from their family then you get pulled into the courts and your prospects get tanked. With that in mind, blaming the individual social workers is probably a bit pointless.

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    In my experience it's more a case of wild inconsistency than persistent inaction.

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    It's definitely inacation in my experience, but that's probably easier to justify when the kid isn't in hospital.

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    We've also on more than one occasion had social workers blatantly lie to parents to get them to take the child to hospital and we then have to deal with the fallout when they realise they aren't just coming for the kid to have a quick checkup.

    I'm sure from a bystander point of view people would make the "well you say what you can to get them to come" argument but it's insanely unprofessional/unethical.

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-59635607

    This identity politics maze has no centre, does it? I don't see how things like the film industry can continue to operate in the long run.

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    That caught my attention earlier too, but how do you mean 'has no centre'?

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    If anyone is wondering, this is the goal of 'wokeism' right here:

    In response, the HFPA has taken steps including recruiting 21 new and "predominantly diverse" members, appointing a chief diversity officer and making its members take diversity, equality and inclusion training.
    Advancement for people in the DEI industry. There is no 'making the world a better place' intent at all.

    EDIT: Someone should cancel the BBC. That should be equity, not equality.

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    Superb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    EDIT: Someone should cancel the BBC.
    The Tories are working on it, I expect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post


    Superb.
    Deserved it for the kids names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    That caught my attention earlier too, but how do you mean 'has no centre'?
    I mean that there are no end goals or cause (say, 'Free Nelson Mandela') but just an endless logical process that will end in society seizing up.

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    Like the maze in Westworld.

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    There's a complete lack of Asian involvement in Westworld.

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    Why couldn't they get an HIV positive actor to play Freddie Mercury?

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    At some point we're going to end up with "Why do we have an American playing a Brit?!" and we'll never have to hear another terrible accent. Play the long game guys.

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    The problem with this equality of outcome stuff, is where do you stop? Equality of the sexes, ok. Fine. How about trans equality, ok, sure. Ageism much? Short people... fat people... rich people.... people from the north... people who don't drive a car to work...

    You could probably find people demanding equality ad infinitum.

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    You could, but it really has narrowed down to two things:

    - More black people on everything.
    - Never question anything 'trans'

    Anyone else can fuck off.

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