Both the lefties and right suck at the teat of American culture down here.
Both the lefties and right suck at the teat of American culture down here.
Last edited by Queenslander; 10-03-2021 at 12:51 AM.
How do you bemoan Western notions of attractiveness as oppressive whilst, in covering your hair as a gimmick, conforming to standards devised solely as a means of not being raped? Am I simply not clever enough to make that work?
It really is not that hard. Majority cultures bad, minority cultures good.
Also this didnt happen.
"When people would make racist jokes I would join in on the jokes because I thought that sort of mistreatment was the price you had to pay to belong."
It's the only reason why you moved to America.Originally Posted by Pepe
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56011909
Who could have guessed
Because it's less racist to, erm, chuck them all it together?
It used to happen at my school a fair bit, to the extent that the only black kid in my class, Mudiwa, eventually started referring to himself as 'Mud'.
We briefly had another black kid called Kwaku, who was known as the Black Duck and he would Quack along.
These days I imagine (and hope) it isn't a thing, but it definitely was when I was at school.
Last edited by Spikey M; 10-03-2021 at 07:31 AM.
I highly doubt the gen z kids that befriended her also made racist jokes.
Im also generalistion to the extreme.
Back in my day it would have been really ugly for her.
Last edited by Queenslander; 10-03-2021 at 08:30 AM.
I'm inclined to believe her given the country in question.
The older generations of course but kids these days are good people.
That doesn't mean these things can't happen unless you think now it's just a waiting game for racism to die out.
Yeah I know Im reaching I guess I just dont believe this particular story.
Probably change my mind come the weekend.
Last edited by Queenslander; 10-03-2021 at 09:25 AM.
It all comes in waves. The 60's had flower power, hippy love & inclusive ways, but we were back to race riots by the 70's and 80's.
We're currently hyper aware of bigotry in all its forms and bending over backwards to avoid it via cancel culture and making a patronising point of giving minorities a pat on the head at every given opportunity. Will that still be the case when my kids are my age? I doubt it.
Yeah, besides, I haven't exactly heard rave reviews about Australia's race relations from people I know. Even in Melbourne, which is one of the most progressive areas.
At least Coon cheese has gone now.
Coon was the blokes name.
Melbourne is no where near as progessive as they claim to be. There are 2 documentaries about the Melbourne AFL community booing Adam Goodes into retirement for being proud Aborignal man. The place is as racist as anywhere else in Australia. They just happen to pump out self righteous woke twitter lefties who spit on anyone from the working class if they didnt go to Uni.
The Victorian Police are very heavy handed at the best of times especially if the Sudanese community is involved.
Our aboriginal deaths in custody is up their with best of the best world wide.
Not that I give a shit but we have access to news coming out of the UK...
Last edited by Queenslander; 10-03-2021 at 10:48 AM.
We're not racist, we have a black princess mate.
Universally adored, so she is.
We will take on Harry if he needs a home when this is all over.
With his complexion? That's just cruel.
Tasmania it is.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-56342253
Going down for a long time surely?
He'll definitely get some serious 'emotive years' added to his sentence.
Makes me wonder what the most unpalatable, yet not illegal, thing is that one could do.
You have to wonder about the mentality of him and the other guy who pissed on someone as they died, not just to do that but to film it and share it. I am sure there has been some heinous things done to dying people over the years by evil bastards but they probably had the foresight not to put it on Tik Tok afterwards.
Back in the day when we all spent our time on this site having free speech debates with Harold, for some unknown reason, I came up with the scenario whereby a grieving mother would have someone come up to her and sing 'I'm glad, that your kids are dead, I'm glad...' to the tune of Go West by the Pet Shop Boys. Would they get done for some kind of harassment maybe? At the time (probably 2007-9 era), we all agreed that in free speech terms it was acceptable.
In the subsequent decade I think they would definitely now find a crime for it.
Those comments are cold and indifferent rather than taking any kind of joy out of their deaths so I wouldn't class him as a psycho, just got carried away by the absurdity of the situation.
I would still agree. They should probably be sacked by their employer, abandoned by their friends and hopefully get assaulted on a regular basis, but being a cunt / hurting someone's feelings should not be illegal.
I think mocking somebody's dead relative goes beyond being a cunt/hurting their feelings. You could cause serious damage to their mental health which may take a long time to undo, especially if they're vulnerable and unable to really defend themselves.
Possibly, but what's the crime? There are lots of things we could do to cause long term mental health issues for a vulnerable person.
My sister in law has a an autistic son, he is obsessed with his trains. Nothing else bothers him at all, so, before they were getting help with him they used to take his trains away if he needed punishing for something. They've now had it explained that they could do far more harm than good going down that route and do it anymore, but were they commiting a crime at the tine? Would they be committing a crime now that they're aware? I really don't know. It's going to be an impossible task to draw a line to my mind.
In those two specific examples there's obviously a difference between the autistic kid/trains thing and revelling in front of a grieving mother at her loss, but how you should draw that line or whether you should even try I don't know.
True.
Granted, It's just the only real world example I have to hand and, to my Nephews mind, I'm not sure there would be much of a difference. Those trains are his life.
That's where we move from the level of offence being given to the level of offence being taken and I can't see how you form a legal framework around that.
There's a clear difference in intent and perceived gravity, but to the 'victim' the outcome may well be the same. Intent has to matter, but how do you manage that in legal terms.
The crime is maliciously mocking a dead person in front of their relatives. Where does that fit specifically in the law? I don't know, but there are plenty of flexible laws to do you if needs be. There'll probably be something more concrete brought in further down the line.
And yeah, if you sister-in-law knows it is causing harm to her vulnerable child then I'd imagine it is illegal and she risks having him taken off her. But previously, no, she hasn't done anything wrong as she wasn't to know the harm being caused.
Intent is the biggest factor here. If somebody with a mental health issue was mocking the dead relative, then it's a different story.
That's where I fell initially, but I'm not so sure upon thinking of it. Part of being a parent is occasionally being unkind to teach a lesson. Grounding, naughty step, taking things away, etc. Then there's the muddy ground of who is and isn't vulnerable and what is and isn't excessive.
I think I still agree, but it's a minefield and there's room within that for a lot of well meaning parents to end up on the wrong end of a charge.
Surely it's about long-term damage. The same way you don't break your child's leg when they cause thousands of pounds worth of damage. It's obviously difficult to judge, but if a professional has made the call and you go against that then you're liable.
These facilities are perfect for a shitty work culture. Mousey specialists, old school coppers ('bearded men in flip-flops' is a good joke), useless civil servants/women, and then local retards on too much money.
The grieving mother heckler would definitely be nailed in this [clown] country under one of our various communication laws for 'distress', but they would be fine in America unless it became so constant/relentless as to become some form of harassment, and that is how it ought to be.
This Wayne Couzens lad who murdered the Clapham bird has caught my imagination, I want gory details and play-by-play accounts.
My ex-cop old man, who is basically always right about any TV crime like this within about 10 seconds, said when it was first on the news and they showed her last known movements etc: 'This is all wrong, there's something weird as hell going on here'.
Not yet seen anything to suggest he isn't right again.
What was it that triggered his spidey senses?
My colleague has some incredible fifty years man and boy ex-copper stories, and the amount of them that feature clocking wrong'uns on the smallest details could convince you to do away with most of the management and leave them to it were it not for the fact that quite a lot of them are also about how bent and violent they used to be.
No idea. It was at the weekend, just after the doorbell cam images were released, so probably that. I speculated that she'd done herself in, and he said 'Nope', and then started saying 'Very odd, this, very odd' in foreboding terms.
I'm trying to think of his other ones. He was onto that Christopher Jeffries being a terrible arrest within about 0.5 seconds, and he still insists that Barry George did kill Jill Dando. He also told me about 20 years ago that Prince Andrew was a wrong un.
He's probably right about Barry George.
Jimmy's dad making Jonathan Creek look like a right cunt via a bit of Ring Doorbell footage.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/...oss-plan-fails
Gonna go cheer the cranes on as they return the kids to the ocean
Make them US citizens and they'll suddenly be average weight again.
BBC News - Sarah Everard: Met officer held over missing woman taken to hospital
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-56331950
This is getting weirder.
It's obviously an awful tragedy (well, in all likelihood) but I find the need for every single news item to be made into some 'wider reflection on society' issue really quite wearing.
Ah, he's Fallen Down Some Stairs has he?
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