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    Warbrexitcovid means everything goes up regardless.

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    The 'free market' in functioning like a racket shocker?

    Also, you can already see the headlines next year or whatever: Market shock as <insert energy company> profits down 70% . . .

    Everything and everyone is shit.

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    What part of the Tory guidance of simply being richer you lazy slob don't you peasants understand?

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    Get back to work!

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    1. Those pictures from the Sue Gray report. Wtf are they all about? He's raising a tin of coke in a room full of Tesco sandwiches and laptops hooked up to a conference screen. It's hardly the Roman orgies

    2. This Elizabeth line madness yesterday. There was a woman who had travelled from South Carolina purely to be on the first train at 6am and my gyal went "this is one of the craziest days of my life". And I just saw "asda jubilee dresses" trending on google and what a story. Another world.

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    I was gonna say, I'm an accountant and have been at livelier work gatherings than that that I wouldn't even begin to call a party.

    It's not a good look, but the sanctimonious and bullshitty WE ALWAYS FOLLOWED THE RULES WHILE YOU WERE HAVING PARTIES!!!!! is just nonsense.

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    'Sir Beer Korma' has turned it right round.

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    Sir Beer Korma

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    'Sir Beer Korma' has turned it right round.
    And I don't think him having a curry and a beer in an office is a party either, but if Boris holding a glass in the air counts as one then fuck only knows anymore.

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    Isn’t the point now that he lied to Parliament? Fuck “party” or “gathering” but any other era and the bloke would have been out on his arse for fibbing in the Commons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    Isn’t the point now that he lied to Parliament? Fuck “party” or “gathering” but any other era and the bloke would have been out on his arse for fibbing in the Commons.
    Given those pictures don't look much like a party, did he actually lie?

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    It's over lads. He survived it. Nobody cares anymore. There's probably plenty that 'should' happen, but if the public have lost interest then it's done.

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    The "partygate" stuff is ultimately very simple.

    If you're the one setting the rules then you need to be abiding by them to the absolute letter. If you're not, you're a cunt. If you get caught, you deserve to have the book thrown at you.

    Arguing over the definition of a party or whatever else is meaningless distraction.

    Boris was going on telly and telling people they couldn't see their dying relatives because they had to do what's right for the greater good and stick to the rules. He was then breaking those rules hours later. Anyone with a functioning brain can see that what they were up to was not within the rules at the time, regardless of whether it fits the technical definition of "party". He then persistently lied about it until cast-iron evidence proved he was lying.

    He deserves to take a fall for it.

    Starmer, by the sounds of things, was either breaking the rules or drinking on the job so is also a twat either way.

    What Spikey says is true though most likely. Public interest has moved on and he's got away with it. The absolute cunt.
    Last edited by randomlegend; 25-05-2022 at 03:41 PM.

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    What RL said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    The "partygate" stuff is ultimately very simple.

    If you're the one setting the rules then you need to be abiding by them to the absolute letter. If you're not, you're a cunt. If you get caught, you deserve to have the book thrown at you.

    Arguing over the definition of a party is or whatever else is meaningless distraction.

    Boris was going on telly and telling people they couldn't see their dying relatives because they had to do what's right for the greater good. He was then breaking his own rules hours later. Anyone with a functioning brain can see that what they were up to was not within the rules at the time. He then persistently lied about it until cast-iron evidence proved he was lying.

    He deserves to take a fall for it.

    Starmer, by the sounds of things, was either breaking the rules or drinking on the job so is also a twat either way.
    If Boris was at a party then Starmer also was and needs to be fined and resign too, as he said he would.

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    And actually, now I think about it, wasn't the rule defined as 'gatherings', rather than parties? If so, how the hell did the latter get into the discourse?

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    We have got a bit swept away with whether it was a party or not. The rules were "no social gatherings" IIRC. There's no getting around that he has attended them. Starmer has too, but he didn't make the rules, so whatev's really.

    Edit: beaten to the punch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    And actually, now I think about it, wasn't the rule defined as 'gatherings', rather than parties? If so, how the hell did the latter get into the discourse?
    Because the Tories are excellent at manipulating the media/discourse. Get everyone thinking the rule was "parties" and then start arguing about whether it was a "party" or not.

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    From reading the first 20 or so pages of the Sue Gray report, there were parties amongst the quick beers (which weren't allowed at the time) and enough concern from the media and Comms people to think it looked like parties to the outside world. And it happened over and over again.

    Sir Beer Korma having a beer with dinner after work barely registers compared to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    Because the Tories are excellent at manipulating the media/discourse. Get everyone thinking the rule was "parties" and then start arguing about whether it was a "party" or not.
    Fair enough, the book should be thrown at both leaders then, with a much bigger one aimed at Boris.

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    I love this. All those rule merchants being stiffed by the cronies that made them up. Suck it you fucking chumps.

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    Breathe in that e-victory magic. While your lungs still work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Given those pictures don't look much like a party, did he actually lie?
    Party or not, he flat out denied he was there at a few of them, which was proved otherwise with the picture leaks (not yesterday’s, previous ones). He should have been long gone, but as Spikey said, the ship has sailed.

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    Aren't tax receipts way up as well?

    They're going to whether this, windfall tax the energy companies, make a bunch of infrastructure investments and probably win the next election whilst Starmer lambasts Boris at the dispatch box for 'claiming to be the party of low taxes', which seemed to me to be an odd line of interrogation. Is he suggesting that is what Labour is or will be?

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    I'm not finished with stupid climate questions just yet:

    Say we give up oil and a fault line introduces a load of oil reserves to some magma. Does the world then end with a big explosion? The answer is no but I'll happily entertain the idea.

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    It's Boris, if his lips are moving he's almost certainly lying about something.

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    And if his lips aren't moving he has someone doing it on his behalf.

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    The worlds going mad about Ricky Gervais latest Netflix special. Again.

    I watched this just now. I wouldn’t have even known about it if it wasn’t for people shouting on the internet.

    Can’t help but feel like this kind of outrage is exactly what he wants.

    Probably worth saying I laughed a few times and I’m very much of the “nothing is off limits” mindset, but this just mostly wasn’t funny, regardless of any intended offence.

    I never bothered with his last one, Humanity. Don’t think I’ll bother.
    I'm a twit

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    Just watched it as well. Humanity was much better.

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    Oh. Maybe I will then.
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    There's a bit in Humanity about why he doesn't have kids and it's one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

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    Yep. Just watched Humanity. Miles better.
    I'm a twit

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    Which one was the one where the second half was basically him telling us about all of his e-victoris on Twitter?

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    "Oh, women!" he starts. "Not all women, I mean the old-fashioned ones. The old-fashioned women, the ones with wombs. Those fucking dinosaurs. I love the new women. They're great, aren't they? The new ones we've been seeing lately. The ones with beards and cocks. They're as good as gold, I love them. And now the old-fashioned ones say, 'Oh, they want to use our toilets.' 'Why shouldn't they use your toilets?' 'For ladies!' 'They are ladies — look at their pronouns! What about this person isn't a lady?' 'Well, his penis.' 'Her penis, you fucking bigot!' 'What if he rapes me?' 'What if she rapes you, you fucking TERF whore?'"
    Like, is there a joke in there somewhere? It literally is just the James Acaster joke about his comedy turned up to 11.


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    Isn't that just Roy Chubby Brown without the honesty?

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    James Acaster is a bad bad knobhead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    James Acaster is a bad bad knobhead.
    Second.

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    James Acaster isn't funny and the thing he fails to realise there is that (whether it's funny or not) Gervais isn't challenging the trans community with that joke, but the people who seem hell bent on both creating a place to fight and actually going to war for them.

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    I just looked up what he says and it's a pretty obvious attention grab.

    He then goes on to joke about “old-fashioned women. They’re the ones the wombs. Those f**king dinosaurs. I love the new women. They’re great aren’t they? The new ones we’ve been seeing lately. The ones with beards and cocks”.

    Gervais then does a bit about having a conversation with a woman who objects to sharing a bathroom with a trans woman, saying“They are ladies, look at their pronouns. What about this person isn’t a lady?”

    Gervais then responds: “Well, his penis.”

    While Gervais goes on to say that “in real life, of course, I support trans rights”, he says: “Be the gender that you feel that you are. But meet me halfway, ladies: lose the cock. That’s all I’m saying.”
    Who exactly isn't already familiar with this sort of material?

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    saying the things that he is apparently not allowed to say, on a variety of global media platforms, for millions of dollars, with the full co-operation and approval of the legal representatives of the institutions on which, and about which, he says the things he is not allowed to say, his functionally adequate standup act having been overpromoted worldwide
    ...

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    You'd have thought they'd learn from the Jimmy Carr Gypsie joke. It'll be forgotten by Sunday. If you didn't like the material, don't watch the comedian again. Simple.

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    Does Gervais actually say he's not allowed to say these things or is that just a line trotted out by idiots? I can't recall him doing so and he's definitely very much one for "I'll say what I like".

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-61582353

    Jack Monroe sounds and looks unhinged. Was she woken up for this interview?

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    What is a Jack Monroe?

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    Middle class woman (or binary, not sure) who once used a food Bank and now is the champion of the poor. She is famous for suing that Katie Hopkins terror and winning and writes awful cookbooks which allow people to make food for 6p.

    She's perfect as the middle class can imagine her as what working class people look like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Does Gervais actually say he's not allowed to say these things or is that just a line trotted out by idiots? I can't recall him doing so and he's definitely very much one for "I'll say what I like".
    It's created a weird argument where 'transphobia' is so mainstreamed as to make the routine utterly conventional and lame, and barely worth doing, but also a deliberate attempt to shock people and whip some attention up for the special. It can't be both.

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    Born with cock - man. Born with fanny - woman. Anything else is just for bored students.

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    Born with both?

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    Covered above. Bored students, obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manc View Post
    Born with both?
    Phwoar.

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