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    He should go away and join Actual Madrid.

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    Reducing Jose Mourinho to 'the earlier supervisor' is brilliantly cold.

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    https://manchestermatters.co.uk/loca...ver-mans-body/

    Terrible - they've found this guy's physique.

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    That whole article reads like it's been through the rounds on Google Translate

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    I'm really glad Cummings is getting that big tax break. Finally some money he can set aside to combat his eyesight problem.

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    Thought Laura Kunoosynoosburg offering to pay it herself was an odd ethics issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Thought Laura Kunoosynoosburg offering to pay it herself was an odd ethics issue.
    She what?

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    It was just a joke about her being a bootlicker. That Keir Starmer attack from 'a senior government source' was so fucking lol.

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    Dom will have been lolling his socks off getting four of them from rival outlets to tweet that at the same time.

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    "Rival" outlets.

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54538639

    It is absolutely fucking mental to still be building this. What would it take to kill it?

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    Well, they're all owned by different people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54538639

    It is absolutely fucking mental to still be building this. What would it take to kill it?
    They've already bulldozed things for it haven't they? Probably crossed the Rubicon a while back.

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    Why would they say no to another round of brown envelopes?

    Such an absolute ball of corruption.

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    Struggle to understand how something can take until 2040 to complete and it still being relevant.

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    The economics of it were questionable at thirty billion, which was why the argument shifted to capacity; but that doesn't necessitate that route at that speed. You could bring the Great Central Main Line back for a few billion and then let local councils waste the rest. If we still have an economy left anyway.

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    I cannot believe that given how long this thing has taken and how much money it's already cost that it still won't be operational for another 8 years.

    What are they doing?

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    Taking bribes.

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    Doesn't it only shave like 15 minutes off the current journey time from Birmingham to London?

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    But it also has capacity upsides for the current bog-standard lines so it's actually worth it if you think it prevents me from having to stand up for 30 mins from MK and possibly gives more early morning trains for my nights out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Doesn't it only shave like 15 minutes off the current journey time from Birmingham to London?
    I think I'm right in saying that based on what Japan had decades ago, it was already a crap train as soon as the idea was conceived.

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    And all for Ł90 a pop.

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    Ł90 big corporates will be more than happy to pay in order for their big central London officeblocks to thrive...

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    The country has only had two decision-making PMs in the last 50 years (Thatcher and Blair), the rest just drift along clinging to power and let fingers go into pies, Boris is no different, and I don't see Keir being any different either.

    To cancel HS2 you'd need a Thatcher figure to storm into the room and shout fuck off. Not going to happen with the amount of contracts etc that will be tied up in it and the number of people it would upset.

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    How much would it cost to build some sort of metro system in a city? I feel like you could probably build them in a good few major British cities for the price of HS2.

    https://www.citymetric.com/transport...s-productivity

    I read this article a while ago which compares Birmingham to other similar sized European cities and explores how poor public transport impacts the UK's productivity. It's an interesting read.

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    Any investment in Birmingham is a waste of money.

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    I haven't been on the new Birmingham trams. They seem nice though.

    The ones in Manchester were terrifying, over here they make them emit a fake noise so you don't get run down by a silent 5 ton train.

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    Large scale rail project over budget and massively late? Sounds about par for the course, I wonder if you adjusted the APT/Intercity fiasco for inflation if it would be better or worse than this. My gut feeling is HS2 will cost more (because of the extra infrastructure) but be better (by actually working to some degree).

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    How did a country that ruled 1/3rd of the world become so awful at infrastructure?

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    All the good stuff we built in the 1800's is still in the way, and we're obsessed with building dumb roads rather than sensible trains.

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    The unions ruined the APT, and the InterCity was an excellent design. This is just out-and-out wank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    How did a country that ruled 1/3rd of the world become so awful at infrastructure?
    It's the fate of all empires to decend into shite.

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    The Intercity worked but it was a 1940's solution to a 1970's brief. The Japs were donning everyone with the bullet train at the same time lets not forget.

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    Yeah, built on brand new networks with unlimited budgets. British Rail wasn't quite there.

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    Ł265m in 80's money got you the Tyne Metro. Money well spent, except for the station at Manors.

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    Can someone inform me whether Twitter is working at the moment? Otherwise, I think the argument with the Fenerbache fan club got me banned...

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    You're safe, it's fucked.

    Well, I mean you're probably going to get stabbed by some Turkish Don's, but Twitter is down.

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    Thank god. Although that would be a pretty good CV where I lose 2 accounts due to fights with Elon Musk and Turkish Nationalists.

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    That's a relief. I thought I got banned or limited because I've been on a mad spree this evening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    How did a country that ruled 1/3rd of the world become so awful at infrastructure?
    Privatisation, cost cutting etc.

    I had to study if for a course on Rail Operations Management (lol) and essentially the problem in the UK is that every so often a big project is green lit, but when it finishes the specialists needed are allowed to retire or drift off elsewhere and there is such a gap that when the next project happens there has been a massive skills drain. Where in Germany for instance their rail infrastructure upgrade projects are completely mapped out for decades ensuring they have a well skilled workforce on hand at all times. The only rail project delivered on time in my rail career was the Ordsall Chord junction in Manchester and that has proved to be a white elephant.

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    The Germans have spent ten years too many building an airport that has gone five times over its budget, and their armed forces don't work. Plus they pollute like fuck and all of their car companies are bent, so let's not get too wrapped up with that lot.

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    The Brandenburg airport is their new national shame, and it's like a fifth of the cost of this railway.

    And as if you give a fuck about pollution

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    It's something the Germany are brilliant lobby always forgets, and quite a big deal these days I'm led to believe.

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    It's not really the Germany are brilliant lobby more just an example of how the continental rail system works better than the UK one, for a myriad of reasons. Essentially boiling down to 'lol privatisation'

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    Private enterprise built the railways, and it was sorting them out after the First World War. It's all been bollocks since the government stepped in.

    Anyway, I'm not sure how privatisation/cost-cutting explains large infrastructure projects running away with themselves when it happens across every sector and has been for decades, through the communist years and since. I think half the time they just fuck the initial sums up, whether deliberately to establish a foothold from which to plead sunk costs or just because planning the finance for something ten years away is ridiculous by definition. The Olympics for example went four times over budget, which sounds bad, but could it ever really have been done on anything like its initial budget? I think the last significant national project we did on time and on budget were the Resolution class submarines, which a bit of a crash programme and essential, so the cost was the cost and that was it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    Privatisation, cost cutting etc.

    I had to study if for a course on Rail Operations Management (lol) and essentially the problem in the UK is that every so often a big project is green lit, but when it finishes the specialists needed are allowed to retire or drift off elsewhere and there is such a gap that when the next project happens there has been a massive skills drain. Where in Germany for instance their rail infrastructure upgrade projects are completely mapped out for decades ensuring they have a well skilled workforce on hand at all times. The only rail project delivered on time in my rail career was the Ordsall Chord junction in Manchester and that has proved to be a white elephant.
    For what it's worth, it was exactly the same with the UK water industry when I worked there a few years back. I think the general public would be shocked at how many assets/processes are broken down and there is no investment to fix them - all the while the owners are paying huge dividends to overseas pension fund owners.
    And then everyone is shocked when untreated waste spills into the rivers, OFWAT issues another record breaking fine, further reducing investment. And so it goes on.

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    You get coal mine... you get a coal mine... etc




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    Sun Cable plans to build the world's largest solar farm on Newcastle Waters Station in the NT

    By 2027, the project could supply 20 per cent of Singapore's power supply

    The NT's Environment Protection Authority is calling for public comments on the 12,000-hectare solar farm proposal
    The seething that good dusty dead country is going to benifit Singapore.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/20...&sf239020348=1
    Last edited by Queenslander; 20-10-2020 at 08:08 AM.

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    What do you think it is that causes Police officers to feel they need to justify every awful thing they do instead of taking a slight moment of self reflection?



    It's the same psychosis that makes them want to be Police in the first place right?

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    At 3 months, she's probably not showing.

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