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    The Advent of AI

    Do you fear the advent of AI or look forward to it? It seems to be precariously close now, the AI art generators are producing exceptional images (and now starting on videos), Deepmind can answer questions on videos shown, scientists have got them smelling and tasting things and apparently they are learning things they weren't programmed to learn.

    Is your job replaceable? Would it bother you if AI encroached on your life in other ways?

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    I've just got a standard dairymilk advent.

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    Remove your tin foil hat.

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    A lot of the work we do should or will go towards predictive modelling once the regulators are comfortable. This could be a huge breakthrough in normalising it. I don't think it necessarily removes me out of a job but it may lead to smaller teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bam View Post
    Remove your tin foil hat.
    They're not really hats, they just stop the chocolate from falling out.

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    My role's changed a lot around automation. Inevitably, they find other stuff for us to do and we are dealing with the automated tasks when the AI inevitably shits the bed. AI doesn't like change. If the DWP decide to change a form, the machine learning can't adjust.

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    The automated systems we use at our spot are gash too but I think we are comparing Vauxhall Tigras to Bugatti Veyrons in that instance.

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    My work have only just integrated a system that allows me to send text messages to people. Cutting edge stuff, but I think I'm relatively safe from the robots.

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    In cutting edge industries maybe this will happen, but I think sometimes it's underestimated just how much of the world is still decidedly analogue.

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    I imagine I'll be largely replaced by a AI/robot eventually.

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    Nah, medicine's going to be safe from some of that. AI can't give an opinion.

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    Supposedly it can smell Parkinsons. It might not be able to recreate the authentic experience of a GP typing your symptoms into the NHS version of google and telling you the result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    I imagine I'll be largely replaced by a AI/robot eventually.
    https://letmegooglethat.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    I google stuff at work all the time.

    I don't pretend to know everything about every condition I might ever encounter. I do (pretend to) know how to google better than the patient.

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    That's the actual description of a lot of jobs nowadays.

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    ChatGPT is fucking nuts. The first two things that come to mind as probably obsolete are STEM degrees and Google, but I'm sure there are plenty more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -james- View Post
    ChatGPT is fucking nuts. The first two things that come to mind as probably obsolete are STEM degrees and Google, but I'm sure there are plenty more.
    No.


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    It's very good at pretending to be smart but is actually a complete bluffer. Basically perfect.

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    Exactly. Like most people then.

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    I've been using it for (fairly basic) coding stuff this week and it's very good. Obviously it's not perfect but it speeds everything up massively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -james- View Post
    I've been using it for (fairly basic) coding stuff this week and it's very good. Obviously it's not perfect but it speeds everything up massively.
    What have you been doing with it?

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    Read about this the other day and almost blew my load. Bring on the anarchy

    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    It's been easily resolved in the replies.

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    I was pissing around on that last night and quickly realised it could do 90% of my work email responses for me, including some fairly technical ones. You'd need a human to be on hand to ensure goofs like the above don't happen, but it's goodbye to having to Google anything again and then pull your own reply together from what you find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    What have you been doing with it?
    Been learning some web dev stuff recently. Basically just have to enter a couple of prompts and be done in 5 minutes rather than spend however long pissing about on stack overflow to figure out how to do something.

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    Even with those two [vague] examples, I just don’t understand a viable use-case.
    I'm a twit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    Even with those two [vague] examples, I just don’t understand a viable use-case.
    Need a complex SQL query but don't know SQL? You can spend two days figuring it out or you can have your AI do it for you in about five minutes.

    Anyone can write code to a basic level now. For people that can already write code, things that take hours/days will take minutes.

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    That sounds like a slippery slope to a generation of thick programmers.

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    Yeah, I think the training data is just stack overflow and the like, so it'll be interesting to see what happens if that dries up.

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    That bat and ball one took me 5 minutes to understand why it was wrong.

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    Which is surprisingly the one that you'd expect it to get right. The other two have some logic behind it, but that one is just a basic math problem that translates quite easily to a basic program no?

    Edit: Although I guess the other two are basic math as well, just maybe a bit more text-based in their description? I don't know.
    Last edited by Adramelch; 07-12-2022 at 09:35 PM.

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    Yeah the first one is a classic heuristic example from Daniel Kahneman's 'Thinking, Fast and Slow' about how our brains are susceptible to failing to properly digest information when the answer appears simple. Crazy it fell into the same trap, though that means it is still as clever as many humans

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    How long do you reckon til it replaces Twitter in providing you with your football opinions, James?

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    StackOverflow has banned ChatGPT code because it’s so horrifically bad at it.

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    Current capabilities of *insert flavor of the week 'AI' here*. What is remarkable is the rate at which they have improved.

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    Absolutely no chance AI replaces me. Plus I'm a first aider (lol) now so good luck with some Tamagotchi getting your burn under the tap.

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    Baz should be gold then.

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    There is no way I am replaced either. There are hundreds of years old tools that can do my job better than me, yet here we are.

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    Until South American mechanics stop being illiterate morons, I too am safe.

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    I think I'm replaceable eventually, but by then we will have entered a socialist utopia so I won't have to worry about a thing.


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    If half the mongs in my job are still employed then I'll surely see it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    StackOverflow has banned ChatGPT code because it’s so horrifically bad at it.
    Was going to mention this. I think it has its uses from a coding starting point but you still need to know why it's wrong and the vulnerabilities you're introducing.

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    Hmmm..

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    It's wrong, but only because you lied to it in the first place.

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    Shit in, shit out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    Was going to mention this. I think it has its uses from a coding starting point but you still need to know why it's wrong and the vulnerabilities you're introducing.
    You don't need ChatGPT to write code anyway, you can just use Github Copilot that's been trained on (and sometimes spits out) other people's licensed code and will chuck other people's private keys at you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    StackOverflow has banned ChatGPT code because it’s so horrifically bad at it.
    That's more a human problem than a ChatGPT problem. People are excited to use the new toy to look smart on the internet without actually checking it's doing what it's meant to. It usually takes a few goes to refine the prompt to get it to do what you want.

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    Why does it need my mobile number to use it?

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    That sweet personal data.

    The Tesco Clubcard scam is the worst of all.

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