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    Packers have got the sacking buzz now.

    Offensive coordinator Edgar Bennett and QB coach Alex van Pelt sacked last night to join the 3 defensive coaches and Ted Thompson already gone.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...oc-qbs-coaches

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    Probably going to end up cutting Jordy and/or Randall Cobb too. It’s a rebuilding year, by the look of it.

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    Denver seem to have taken the policy that the problems we have are down to the remaining Super Bowl 50 staff.

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    Marty Mornhinweg is staying

    Can't wait to see more TE screens 3 yards down the field on 3rd and 9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    Probably going to end up cutting Jordy and/or Randall Cobb too. It’s a rebuilding year, by the look of it.
    Have to cut one at least after the Adams deal.

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    I saw a meme page suggest that the other day, citing Brady being the driving force to get Jimmy G out to keep his job for a few years. I think Brady is a dick enough for it to be true.

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    Why does Brady need to politicking regarding sodding Garoppolo?

    I know he's a bell-end but I don't see the need. It's his team until Bob Kraft says it isn't. Belichick is great and everything but it's amazing how much easier life can be when you have the better part of two decades of a best-quarterback-ever conversation guy under center.

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    But on the other hand, is he a ‘best QB ever’ type player without Bill Belichick? It’s hard to believe he would’ve done as well if he’d been drafted by the Bills.

    Guerrero comes across as the real dickhead of the piece though.

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    Quarterbacks are the difference.

    The Patriots had been good in the 90s but weren't much cop in Belichick's first season. Second season, first with Brady..... well, we know the script.

    Wikipedia can tell you the stats for other examples. The 49ers were not very good and then Montana comes in and they're a great team. The Colts were up and down in the years prior to Manning and his first few and then became consistently good around him. The Cowboys had been pants for a few years before Aikman came in. Now when you look at the stats in detail there are a few where these Hall of Fame / multi-Super Bowl QBs came together with their head coaches at about the same time which makes sense as in a lot of cases it's a crap team who've cleared out and taken a decent draft pick to recover from being rubbish (Brady wasn't a high draft pick of course, which bucks the trend) but a lot of them when you look at it had good coaches (or guys who are now seen as good coaches) but it didn't work out.

    I'm not trying to dismiss the importance of the head coach and nor am I saying you could plug A. N. Other with the Patriots in 2001 and they'd have gone on to do what they have since. And let's be honest, chance are there are guys who could have gone on to win a ring or two who didn't because they ended up with a coach who wasn't up to it or the team messed them about or whatever. But having that one guy at QB who you know is the guy just makes everything so much easier.

    Look at Denver this year, as an example. Man-for-man , certainly on defense, the team doesn't look like it should have been shitting the bed as hard as it did so often through the season. The offensive line is absolute balls and has been for ages but it wasn't seen as such a big deal when Manning was there because even in that last year when his arm was gone his decision-making was still better than what we've had this year. Worse decisions, lead to turnovers and that heaps more pressure on a defense that is still trying to work out a way to get back to where it was after a few big personnel changes. After the center you've got one guy who has his hands on the ball for basically half the plays every game. When that guy isn't up to it there's only so much a coach can do when he's not surrounded by studs. If he's amazing then he can probably make up for some of his team-mates shortcomings.

    If you asked me whether, using Denver as the example again, we'd have benefited more from a HOF coach or HOF quarterback this year I'd say the latter in a heartbeat. Long term is a different issue, naturally.

    What you actually want, of course, is just a team that has been consistently well-run for decades. I think Denver have suffered for Pat Bowlen's illness.

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    Rumours building that Ball is going to get the GM job in Green Bay and McCarthy could possibly quit because of it.

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    Isn't Eliot Wolf one of the most talked up GM candidates in the whole league? Seems a bit odd to not just give him the job. The Ravens guy is the other one that always gets talked up, but I can't remember his name.

    Still, may as well go all out with the rebuild, I guess. Should cut Rodgers as well really. It'd help the cap.

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    Chucky is back,time to become a Raiders fan i guess.Bandwagoner for sure but i just like the attitude he brings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    Isn't Eliot Wolf one of the most talked up GM candidates in the whole league? Seems a bit odd to not just give him the job. The Ravens guy is the other one that always gets talked up, but I can't remember his name.

    Still, may as well go all out with the rebuild, I guess. Should cut Rodgers as well really. It'd help the cap.
    Wolf is only always mentioned because of his surname, there's a few others as well regarded there. Gundekunst probably higher. Giving an accountant, especially in a move to alienate the head coach, the job is an odd one though.

    Definitely need cuts though. Nelson, Cobb, and Matthews take up $36m of cap room by themselves next season as things stand and none are worth paying big money any more. I'd expect two to be gone.

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    If the NFL had any balls they’d make them cut Rodgers for that IR debacle but I guess the rule only applies to shit players.

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    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ts-to-refugees

    Jacksonville Jaguars owner Shad Khan wants everyone to revel in the first home playoff game of his tenure.

    The team announced Khan and the Jaguars Foundation donated 500 tickets to refugees from around the world who settled in Northeast Florida and an additional 500 tickets to Puerto Ricans and their families in North and Central Florida displaced by Hurricane Maria.

    The Jaguars Foundation will provide transportation for the 1,000 recipients. The team also partnered with Delaware North Sportservice to give each attendee a food and beverage voucher to use during the game.

    Khan and the Jags also provided 1,500 tickets at a reduced price ($20) to local military members through the United Service Organizations.

    Fair play.

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    Watched the latest Brett Kolmann Film Room earlier - as if I wasn't already sufficiently concerned about the Panthers

    I also watched some Quenton Nelson tape. That man is a strong, angry dude & I love him.

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    Anyone watching the Titans/Chiefs?

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    I'm hoping for a Chiefs win with Smith/Kelce going off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    Anyone watching the Titans/Chiefs?
    Yep. Wouldn't even turn it in if it wasn't playoffs but anything is worth a watch when it's knockout.

    That said, it's manure so far.

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    I've got some money on the Chiefs -7.5 and Kelce to score the first TD.

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    For all the talk early on about Rodgers and Smith from the same draft, Smith has turned out to be quite a player.

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    I've always liked him, it just took him a bit of time to really get the NFL game.

    Didn't help that the Niners were pretty shit bar his last year and a half or so. Harbaugh and his team helped him a lot.

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    Titans are going to get stomped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    I've always liked him, it just took him a bit of time to really get the NFL game.

    Didn't help that the Niners were pretty shit bar his last year and a half or so. Harbaugh and his team helped him a lot.
    Takes a lot to play in a Reid offense too. Always liked him as well.

    Looking good on that bet.

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    I think they'll struggle next year if they do trade him to give Mahomes the gig.

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    This isn't going to be very close, is it?

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    Nope.

    Titans haven't turned up yet. The Chiefs defence looks desperate to throw away the game though.

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    How does Decker drop that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    I think they'll struggle next year if they do trade him to give Mahomes the gig.
    Bigger physical upside and with age/contracts and l they have to, but it's hard to find that aptitude which Smith has in abundance. I can see him in Washington but Cleveland should be in there if they've any sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    How does Decker drop that?


    At least the Titans have finally showed their faces.

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    Why throw it at Peters? All he really does is pick QBs off.

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    I think I'm going to watch something else pretty soon

    RIP Mularkey.

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    That pick was disgusting.

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    What a sack that was.

    Johnson blew Mariota up.

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    Woof that.

    Derrick Henry needs shooting after that shit block.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    What a sack that was.

    Johnson blew Mariota up.
    Serious clatter. Big missed assignment but he Johnson some burst for his age.

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    Can't see Kelce coming back today.

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    Kelce won't be back after that.

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    The officiating in this game

    Jesus.

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    Needs a Titans TD here.

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    Not seen that before.

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    What the fuck was that?

    New York gave that, that's fucking funny.

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    Does that count as a passing TD from Mariota to Mariota?

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    Is that 12 fantasy points?

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    It does as well

    The NFL website has Mariota passing it to Mariota so he has a passing TD and a receiving one.

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    That's fucking funny

    Mariota's QB fantasy stock just rose after that touchdown.

    Kelce now out with concussion, I swear it was due to targeting but hehs.

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    Stupid cunt.

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    This game

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