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    Eagles need o line help too don’t they?

    There’s a few teams in a bit of a mess and it always seems a bit of a gamble with a WR in the top 10.

    Watched bama steam roll Ohio state last night and it wasn’t even a contest. Mac jokes as a 1 year started being described as a late first rounder caught me a little off guard. He had the best o line in the country, a monster WR and an elite RB IN Harris.

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    Eagles need help in every position to be fair @Foe. There's only a few big game players left now. Cox and Slay are top talents and Sanders and Kelce are also very good but there's not that much beyond them.

    The QB situation needs solving soon though and with the Jets apparently now not taking a QB and looking to trade it away there's scope for us to do something, whether ourselves we trade up/down or we look at someone like Fields.

    There's also a pretty good article on how we got here which is largely accurate to how I understand everything that's gone on.

    https://www.inquirer.com/eagles/cars...-20210116.html

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    https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/01/16/te...y-kept-his-job





    The work they've put in to absolutely decimating their franchise is seriously impressive.

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    Is the Watson stuff entirely down to them saying they'd consult him over hires and then not doing it?

    Like, fine, be annoyed but they're not paying you tens of millions of dollars a year to run their franchise at the end of the day.

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    Them trading away the best WR in the league for fuck all and completely wasting a year of his career probably didn't help either.

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    He and JJ were caught saying to each other they weren't happy they'd wasted a year of their prime.

    He also only heard Hopkins was gone on Twitter. Not surprised he doesn't want to stay there when they are clearly clueless.

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    That was gutting (bar a miracle comeback).

    Clear that we need O-Linemen. All the centers on the team cannot snap to save their life and we've focused so much on RUN that only Stanley (and Orlando Brown to an extent) can pass protect. Titans who couldn't pass rush at all in the season were feasting last week and the Bills were basically camped in our backfield tonight.

    I think following on from that, Greg Roman needs to be let go. He did well last season in developing Lamar but the team needed to evolve a bit this season which it did not. We've become one dimensional (as evidenced by just bringing in O-Lineman who are good at run blocking and not much else) and if you can take that away, like the Bills have done, then we're nothing. We need someone to come in and help Lamar progress as a passer so we're better equipped when losing or the run game is being shut down.

    I also think we need WR's. I think Marquise Brown has had some bad moments this season but he seems to have recovered fairly well after catching that 4th and whatever for a TD during the mental Browns game. However, he is not a WR1 and we need someone to take that title to help the other WRs.

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    I’ve seen people mocking Baltimore Kyle Pitts, which seems both absolutely disgusting & completely unnecessary.

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    Imagine that two TE set with mark Andrew’s, Lamar and the various runners and then Hollywood brown just told to go deep.

    Ravens are totally one dimensional though as Mahow says. Until Lamar is a legit danger with his arm to the sidelines the other teams will scheme him out. He’s so damned good he can overcome that sometimes, but when it doesn’t work, there’s no plan B.

    Happy for the bills though. They’ve gotten so much better in the years I’ve been watching. Must be satisfying having Josh Allen’s cannon rather than trying to grind it out with tyrod.

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    Mon the Broons.

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    I assume BBC has the rights for the Superbowl this year? It'll be the first time watching live for about 8 years.

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    Yeah, they normally have it and do the worst of all available broadcasts.

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    ‘The blue tent’ is so funny.

    Honestly I’ve found the nfl/nba streams more consistent than the football ones are. Nflbite is what you’re looking for.

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    That's so Browns.

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    MVPAT clearly knocked out there.

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    After a td or fg Can someone explain to a euro why they kick off after an FG/TD. Why wouldn’t you just kick the entire field so they can’t return it every time?

    What is considered a good kick?

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    Well the dream is that you kick it high and just around the goal line so the returner dithers and thinks he can return it and you stop him anywhere short of the default start of drive position. It's just about gaining whatever yards you can here and there.

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    You also don't want to smash it out of bounds (unlike punts) as that's a foul and rather than starting at the 25 the receiving team will start at the 40 yard line.

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    What a run by Henne that was.

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    Sad for the Browns but fair play to Andy Reid there, that was ballsy.

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    That's such a Browns drive.

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    Andy Reid is a total madman.

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    There is a level of genius to it though. They fake fake sold that last play so well that no one actually thought they were going to snap it.

    Nobody move, they're just trying to draw us offside, oh shit.

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    Yeah, it's one of those where he obviously gets called out as a mong if it fails but when it works you can appreciate both the genius and gutsiness of it, including how the players executed it as you say.

    Reminds me.of Payton opening the second half of the Super Bowl against Manning's Colts with an inside kick. Proper "so crazy it just might work" stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    There is a level of genius to it though. They fake fake sold that last play so well that no one actually thought they were going to snap it.

    Nobody move, they're just trying to draw us offside, oh shit.
    Especially as it's only Chad Henne at QB...

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    It’s a dual of Hall of Fame quarterbacks and the best throw is made by Jameis Winston.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoonsky View Post
    It’s a dual of Hall of Fame quarterbacks and the best throw is made by Jameis Winston.
    Oh deer.

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    Brees is completely washed up. He can't even throw for 15 yards.

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    Yeah, they should have kept Jameis on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    Brees is completely washed up. He can't even throw for 15 yards.
    He had issues a few years ago with a shoulder I think and looked horrendous, but he bounced back.

    He had a poor game and unfortunately it’s probably his last. They had a good window the last few years and gave it a good bash, but came up short. Hell of a career though and hall of fame bound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    He wont get picked up this season, especially with the Covid restrictions.

    He'll have to get a job as a third/fourth QB at a team during the off-season and hope to impress enough to take the backup job.

    Bookies have the Steelers as the favourites to sign him which I could see. Rofflesburger is out of contract next season and Dobbs is gone at the end of this season and Rudolph hasn't looked great.
    https://www.nfl.com/news/dwayne-hask...steelers-today

    Signing today.

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    Texans want the number 1 pick next year.

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    For who? The dude from North Carolina?

    I watched way less college football this year, but all the big QBs jumped with fields, Lawrence..

    Seems odd for him to get launched in with little experience. He’s been coaching high school has he not?

    Jim Caldwell wasn’t bad at Detroit. They took a huge step back when they moved on, assuming they could do better.

    Surprised bienemy hasn’t landed. Urban Meyer was left field, and the other hires caught me by surprise a bit too as the coordinators talked up remain in the wind.

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    And now it’s all but confirmed Stafford is on the move.

    Lots of talk the colts would be the move, but many other avenues available..

    Patriots?
    Washington?
    49ers?
    Cowboys?
    Last edited by Foe; 24-01-2021 at 08:47 AM.

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    I wonder if Denver will show any interest. I imagine they'd love to make a play for Watson but that ain't gonna happen.

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    Colts should bite the hands off either the Texans or Lions. The rest of the team is good enough to challenge for titles.

    I see Stafford as a good fit for Bill. Assuming he's cheaper than Watson by some way, which I expect, then he could concentrate on improving his WRs.

    49ers I see as similar to the Colts but maybe not quite as ready to win the big game. However having either of those 2 guys would open up the "downfield" section of their playbook.
    The Football Team would be a good shout. Good young defence there as well as a great young WR/TE combo. Could push them on.

    I'm not sure I see the Cowboys getting involved.

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    Yeah I was just punting teams around that have uncertainty at qb.

    The cowboys / dak relationship is uncertain.

    Similar questions for Denver as noted.

    Hadn’t twigged Atlanta had then fourth overall pick. Could this be the beginning of the end for Matt Ryan too?

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    Texans/Bills could also do a swap deal.

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    Just realised he grew up in Dallas, Texas. So yeah, he might be interested in Dallas or Houston.

    No way the lions would ship him to the bears.

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    Since when have play-off wins gone into team records? I'm not having the Bills (15-3) v Chiefs (15-2) or has that always been a thing? Regular season record only, shirley?

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    I wondered about that too so if they've always done it we're both idiots.

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    It looks wrong doesn't it?

    I get it when it's '17-0' etc, but I had never really thought it was a thing outside of that.

    Is 17-0 even a perfect season if you can theoretically go 18-0 (I appreciate the theoretical underpinnings of that claim may be a bit sketchy)?

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    The only way I want to see it is if it's "New England Patriots (18-1)."

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    Yeah, I was getting mixed up with season lengths there. I meant 20-0. Could that be done? You'd have win your division (as it would be impossible not to), but be in a conference with two other perfect teams to get into the wild card round.

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    One other now.

    Not impossible but highly unlikely.

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    Can both teams lose this?

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    It is a bit like that.

    I'd normally be all over Tampa Bay, but not with their roster of total dickheads. But then, Green Bay? The cheeseheads? Ugh.

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    Don't worry lads, who wins this is just fodder for the Bills in the Owl anyway.

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    The sad thing is that either of these will probably rinse said [bottling] Bills in the big one and it is genuinely hard to choose which would be the least bad option. But you can never really go with Brady et al so you just have to go with the Chiefs (as they'll probably win and it'd be a lot less traumatizing to see them lose if they don't).

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    This is some start.

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