There's a conspiracy against Liverpool

[Benny]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p033...adio_and_music

There's a conspiracy against Brendan Rodgers'

John Motson believes there is a media conspiracy against Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers.

Speaking on the Monday Night Club, the commentator said: "Every time I read an article about Liverpool, there's somebody digging away at him".

"If we can put things in perspective, two years ago he nearly won the league."

"What do Liverpool seriously expect? They haven't won the league for over 20 years. I think there's an agenda there, and I think there's certain people driving it".

Liverpool have started the Premier League season with just two wins in their first six games.

What we reckon fellas?

[Magic]

There's a conspiracy about everyone, everything is negative. Rodgers is a clown and an easy target. Praise is boring, we aren't interested in that, we only want filth and shame and dirt and exposure.

[Disco]

See what you're missing Taz? Think how many nonsensical asterisks you could be posting.

[Giggles]

He put a saddle on Luis Suarez and rode him to as close as he's ever going to get. He's not good enough.

He's also slowly going insane. Though that is ingrained in the club, so there could be hope for him yet.

[CJay]

Is John Motson a Liverpool supporter?

He's 70 years old now so this is probably his first foray into dementia.

His first foray? Sometimes his commentary on MOTD sounds like bits of his brain are falling away.

I wouldn't say there's a conspiracy. Everyone loved Rodgers the season before last, but he's been a bit rubbish since then and rightly been criticised for it.

[Magic]

Does Rodgers pick the players they buy? Their recent transfer policies have been appalling and it's all self inflicted so if he doesn't I feel sorry for the laaaaaa.

[CJay]

Considering Rodgers made Joe Allen his first signing, it just shows that it's not any worse if he isn't in control. I don't know how it works, but I imagine he wanted Benteke this season, for example.

[Toby]

It will get increasingly difficult for him or his supporters to argue against 2013/14 having been a Suarez-fuelled outlier if they don't improve again soon.

Given the strength of the teams they're competing with and the money that has been spent, fifth place isn't an unreasonable expectation, and he's failed at that twice in three efforts.

[Max Power]

Does Rodgers pick the players they buy? Their recent transfer policies have been appalling and it's all self inflicted so if he doesn't I feel sorry for the laaaaaa.

He picked the successful buys and the mystical TRANSFER COMMITTEE picked all the Iago Aspases

[Magic]

Who were the successful ones then?

[Max Power]

Coutinho and Sturridge

[Andy]

He doesn't seem to know how he wants the side to play and really struggles to get the best out of his players. If that squad was properly motivated and on form they'd be challenging for the top four. As it is he changes things far too often with square pegs in round holes.

Lallana has 18 month with us where he was brilliant, under Rodgers he's been appalling. Same with so many of the players in that squad.

[Shindig]

He doesn't really seem to bring in any sparks. Coutinho's good but he's not really the experienced livewire the squad needs. He can't be expected to carry a squad of workhorses. There's no doubt the club can attract big players but I just wonder if Brendan honestly likes managing them. He made his name with Swansea, after all.

[Magic]

Coutinho and Sturridge

Hot/cold and always injured.

Rodgers out.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Motson has seen more football than all of us combined, he knows. As if sacking Brendan and bringing in some foreign flavour of the month will achieve anything.

They currently aren't set up to be a Champions League club. Until they get another Suarez they won't challenge again.

[Giggles]

Motson has been senile for 20 years.

[Josh]

'Oh I think that might have struck the post' he says after the third replay when everyone else that isn't senile saw it hit the post without a replay.

Motson may be nostalgic but he was beyond useless long ago.

[Giggles]

It's when he gets really over excited and up on his high horse about something hugely irrelevant is when he's at his shittest. And that's pretty shit.

[Spammer]

Lawrenson is without doubt the worst of the lot. The bloke clearly has clinical depression ffs and needs help.

[Jimmy Floyd]

He's still the best commentator around. Calls it as he sees it. No bollocks.

Peter Drury, for example, should die. I'm not even exaggerating.

[7om]

Mark Lawrenson is a wonderful commentator. None of the hyperbole that is riddled in today's commentary and he doesn't mind being snidey either. What a man.

[Giggles]

He calls it as he sees it, but usually he hasn't seen it or has seen something completely different to what happened. A relic from a long forgotten era.

[Josh]

Lawro is great. His misery makes me feel like a positive person.

[Giggles]

And yes @Hammer, Lawrenson has to be the most detestable cunt imaginable. Never adds a thibg and instead just drapes himself there like he's sitting in a sauna while making smart remarks at what everyone else has to say.

[Josh]

His tuts and sighs during commentary are great though. Outside of being a co-commentator he is shit, I agree.

[Elbastido]

Motson lost it ages ago, but back in the 80's early 90's he was great.

Despite his manic depressive style, Lawrenson is great but I can understand why he isn't everyone's cup of tea.

As Jimmy says, Drury is terrible. I just can't stand Robbie Savage though, he's awful. As is Claridge. They should both be shot on sight.

[Boydy]

Great, another name change. Dickhead.

[Elbastido]

Great, another name change. Dickhead.

Huh? Same username as the other forum. Chin up.

[Spammer]

We don't need newbies when lurkers from the old forum start posting

[Magic]

Michael Owen is thee worst.

[Elbastido]

We don't need newbies when lurkers from the old forum start posting

I think I managed a quite respectable 8.5 posts a year.

[Reg]

Motson has seen more football than all of us combined, he knows. As if sacking Brendan and bringing in some foreign flavour of the month will achieve anything.

They currently aren't set up to be a Champions League club. Until they get another Suarez they won't challenge again.

Why do you assume it'd be a 'flavour of the month'? Maybe it'd be a good appointment.

[Spoonsky]

There's this one Scottish co-commentator that I love in the Premier League, no clue what his name is though. Always makes the games sound so intense and involving.

[Luke Emia]

Brent is done. Jacky posted in the Liverpool threads that he has lost the sensible fans as the last 20-30 games have been pretty woeful. The mentalists who wanted Rafa back were never going to be turned but once you lose the everyday fan that's it.

[Boydy]

I just watched the highlights of Sunday's game there and I actually thought they looked alright. They created quite a few good chances, there's more movement about up front and they look a danger on the break again.

[Giggles]

Has Brent watch ramped back up to 10 yet?

[Yevrah]

He doesn't seem to know how he wants the side to play and really struggles to get the best out of his players. If that squad was properly motivated and on form they'd be challenging for the top four. As it is he changes things far too often with square pegs in round holes.

Lallana has 18 month with us where he was brilliant, under Rodgers he's been appalling. Same with so many of the players in that squad.

We've discussed this before, but Lallana's level was Southampton, where he probably was brilliant for you, but that's really no gauge on how he'd do at a much bigger club.

[Giggles]

Ah cock there's extra time so they'll scrape through.

[Yevrah]

Oh and does John Motson know what a conspiracy is?

[Giggles]

Oh and does John Motson know what a conspiracy is?

He doesn't even know what a foul is these days.

[Andy]

We've discussed this before, but Lallana's level was Southampton, where he probably was brilliant for you, but that's really no gauge on how he'd do at a much bigger club.

I'm in a far better position to judge, he is playing a level massively below the level he was at with us.

There's no probably about how good he was for us. Hence the England call up and being on the shortlist for player of the year. He has dropped off massively.

My comment about him being as good as anyone in the league on his day that season was probably over doing it but you are taking it too far the over way.