http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport...poken-11580061
So it appears the FA are speaking to Allardyce. Good.
The other contenders are apparently Arsene Wenger (I want an Englishman but at least Wenger would give us an identifiable playing style, whatever else people may think of him).......and HARRY FUCKING REDKNAPP.
Anyway, this deserves its own thread. Who do we want?
I've said elsewhere I'd only look at English coaches and that Allardyce is my preferred option. What say you?
If we're going English, it's got to be Allardyce really. I'd be in favour of Wenger if he was up for it, but I'd be surprised if he was. Redknapp is surely a joke.
I'm surprised Bilic isn't in contention, but perhaps he's not interested.
Allardyce because I think he'd do well and I'd win a nice amount of money.
Seeing as you can basically boil our problems down to BOTTLING IT and being tactically naive, who suggested Arsene Wenger, and why are they earning a living in football?
I was joking at one point that it should be Giggsy but who knows.
Big Sam might be a good apointment (we said the same fucking thing towards Woy for fuck sake).
Allardyce is tactically excellent and has bottle to spare. I'd also quite like a wanker in charge.
Post-Brexit England needs a dismissive fat bloke representing it abroad.
I hope it's Allardyce because I just know how much you lot will seethe about the shit football they will play.
This, essentially. I just want the candidate most likely to call them out on what a useless set of cunts they, and in the most aggressive fashion. Allardyce seems to fit the bill on that front.Originally Posted by Lee
Nailed it.
Is Allardyce tactically excellent? I can't see it.
I'd go foreign again, Allardyce would be a disaster.
He's not revolutionary but he can coach very well, is sure of his ideas and is fairly adaptable.
I don't see why he'd be a disaster? He'd set us up to win 1-0 and not fuck about, and would, I think, be unlikely to lead a team that looked scared of their own shadows.
As long as he keeps lolling players off I say they give him the job for life.
Tom Hiddleston. Wait. Yes.
Paul Ince.
I really don't understand wanting Allardyce. Has he ever managed a remotely good team?
England is not remotely good so he'll be right at home.
Why does that matter?
Low was bumming around in Austria when he got the Germany job and he's done alright. The new Italy manager is coming from Torino having spent eight hundred years managing in the wilderness.
I can't claim to know much about Low or Italy's new manager prior to their national team stints, but my point was more that he's spent his whole management career playing shit football with shit teams with mediocre results.
His qualifications seem to be 'being English and a bit funny and a bit shouty'.
Allardyce all day long. We've tried 'good football' and it's been an abject failure. Let's go proper English beans on toast, Worcester sauce, pint of bitter, fookin' ave some, CAN WE NOT KNOCK IT, mental.
Other teams are all ponces and will have no idea how to deal with a barrage of long balls up to Andy Carroll and some 6 foot 5 wingers.
Allardyce and he would do a good job.
He's got Bolton into the top 6. Bolton Wanderers. He's also presided over Blackburn somehow being a decent team for several years and his latest work at Sunderland has been loltastic.
He did really well with Bolton when he was left to it.
Thought you guys would take Klinsmann off our hands
I thought Bolton were a lot shitter than that, my bad.
How about overachieving at every club he has managed? With the arguable exception of Newcastle where he got five months and was 11th when he was sacked at the behest of the baying mob.
He plays the football which gets the best from his available players. Something England managers seem not to think is the done thing. Anybody thinking Allardyce is shit is probably watching football in the context of the whole thing being about the biggest clubs or most talented nations. They wouldn't want him managing their side.
But England just aren't there and until we are we need somebody who is tactically aware (he really is tactically very good) and thus able to organise a team to results at least in keeping with the ability of the available players. Who could do that better than Big Sam? There are lots of ways of winning.
The other thing Allardyce would do is omit big names from the team/squad if they aren't contributing to making a better XI, which is what literally no England manager has done in my lifetime.
But flair players have done well for him too - Jay Jay Okocha, for instance.
This
If he gets it, at his his first press conference I want him to answer every question via the medium of a Power Point presentation.
If anything, Big Sam is probably less likely to ditch our burdensome wankers than an outsider. He is the Proper Football Man's Proper Football Man, and he'll truly believe that Wayne Rooney still has the sort of QUALITY we need.
Anything that has Sunderland looking for their seventh manager in five years is fine by me.
True. He wouldn't play him in midfield though.
Sam is my reluctant choice. He'd come into his own during a tournament imo, although he'd probably get sacked after a 0-0 at home to Estonia and not even make it that far.
Allardyce would instil an identity into the team that has been completely absent for fuck knows how long. He's worth a go.
Give Redknapp a go.
I'm a twit
What has Jurgen Klinsmann done to suggest that he would be a good England manager?
They're now "in negotiations" for KlinsmannThought you guys would take Klinsmann off our hands
For fuck's sake.
All that great work with USMNT, obviously.
United States Mutant Ninja Turtles. Howard's in a half-shell.
They're now "in negotiations" for Klinsmann
Apt having just hit the Ice-berg.
Klinsmann? Fucking hell.
Is the FA staffed by real people or is it some kind of long form satire?
Why is everyone so down on Klinsmann? At the World Cup he beat a good Ghana team, drew with Portugal (much better players), lost by one goal to Germany (best team in the world), then went out to Belgium who had topped their group and eventually went out to finalists.
He also helped oversee USA's transition from nowhere to somewhere in football, and dropped old heads and brought in new, younger players.
He has done great work with under age teams in Germany and the U.S., but his ability as a coach is less certain. I'd welcome him behind the scenes but he'd never go for that.
Anyway, the England manager should be English. We shouldn't be allowed to pillage the resources of other nations because we are too shit to produce our own. Our wealth harms us. Why produce our own coaches (or put money into subsidising coaching courses like other big nations do) if we can just nick them from a country which has bothered to do it properly.
Long way of saying hire Sam Allardyce.
We've spent the last ten years trying to be a shit version of everyone else. Let's at least be a shit version of ourselves. England will play 44fucking2, Gavin McCann in midfield, two rapid wingers who can deliver, Emile Heskey up front with Gary Linekar, Ryan Shawcross and INSERT MASSIVE BASTARD WHO WILL EAT EVERYONE ALIVE HERE at the back, someone who doesn't do Head and Shoulders adverts and has a backbone in goal. Job done. Allardyce with the World Cup in his hands and everyone gets pissed.
Even if you get past him not being English, Klinsmann wouldn't be any good anyway. The job needs someone who's had experience of dealing with our players and understands first hand that as a nation we're a collective of bottling wasters.
Knowing Klinsmann, he'll still want to base himself in California.
Wenger Is perfect. He gurantees quater finals exits on a regular.
Big Sam is down to 2/1 now. Hopefully it's all one way from here.
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